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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Horney on 24 June 2011, 10:43
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Anyone got this months Golf+ and can scan page 16 for me? Seems they used one of my pictures, tut tut. I feel a strongly worded letter and an invoice coming on!
nick
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can they do that without your permission ?
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if that's the case that is very naughty!! :angry:
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Go get em Nick!
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Humm so it seems the guy who owns the car sent in the shot. I had told him he could use it for a canvas etc and was free to post it about as long as I got a credit. Not really Golf+'s fault other than they should ask for confirmation of copywrite from reader submitted pics. I'll drop them a note.
nick
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On the plus side, congrats on getting your photo into a major magazine! :cool:
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Humm so it seems the guy who owns the car sent in the shot. I had told him he could use it for a canvas etc and was free to post it about as long as I got a credit. Not really Golf+'s fault other than they should ask for confirmation of copywrite from reader submitted pics. I'll drop them a note.
nick
mk2 at stoner?
i'd be dropping them a note and an invoice... its not his image and you should be credited.
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MKII at DATP.
Nick
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MKII at DATP.
Nick
you knew i meant that didn't you?! :grin:
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Yeah I did :cool:
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Offset it against the copyright cost of the scanned image of page 16 - might break even :tongue:
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Offset it against the copyright cost of the scanned image of page 16 - might break even :tongue:
:grin:
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Humm so it seems the guy who owns the car sent in the shot. I had told him he could use it for a canvas etc and was free to post it about as long as I got a credit. Not really Golf+'s fault other than they should ask for confirmation of copywrite from reader submitted pics. I'll drop them a note.
nick
Did you ask him if you can take a photo of his car, or did he ask you to take a photo of his car?
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Doesn't make a difference but I took it at a show I didn't ask him and he didn't ask me. He posted under the show pic thread on edition asking if he could use it for a canvas.
Nick
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Doesn't make a difference
It does. No one asked anyone, your photo, but his car. Sorry but you've no grounds for a complaint. Copyright laws.
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
FAIL - Nick is correct
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
FAIL - Nick is correct
FAIL - Always ask permission from the property owner.
Good luck with your complaint, it'll get no interest.
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Jog on, you're talking nonsense.
To follow up on this, I did email Golf+ and they were very apologetic about it. It's not the first time this has happened either as another mag took my shots of a show off Flickr and published them as part of an article. On that occasion I invoiced them and promptly received a cheque for several hundred quid.
Nick
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
FAIL - Nick is correct
FAIL - Always ask permission from the property owner.
Good luck with your complaint, it'll get no interest.
So when someone takes a photo of a skyline or a building do you go and ask permission?
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
FAIL - Nick is correct
FAIL - Always ask permission from the property owner.
Good luck with your complaint, it'll get no interest.
So when someone takes a photo of a skyline or a building do you go and ask permission?
A building, (anyones property) yes you're supposed to, especially if you're wanting to use the photo for some kind of work/publication.
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
FAIL - Nick is correct
FAIL - Always ask permission from the property owner.
Good luck with your complaint, it'll get no interest.
So when someone takes a photo of a skyline or a building do you go and ask permission?
A building, (anyones property) yes you're supposed to, especially if you're wanting to use the photo for some kind of work/publication.
But Nick wasn't using his photo for publication.........he took it because he likes cars and taking photos of them. its Golf+ who has broken the law by using Nick's photograph without his permission
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
FAIL - Nick is correct
FAIL - Always ask permission from the property owner.
Good luck with your complaint, it'll get no interest.
So when someone takes a photo of a skyline or a building do you go and ask permission?
A building, (anyones property) yes you're supposed to, especially if you're wanting to use the photo for some kind of work/publication.
But Nick wasn't using his photo for publication.........
But he's got a photo of someone elses property without permission and exclaiming that they can't use it.
My car is my intellectual property and any photographs of it are therefore mine.
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
FAIL - Nick is correct
FAIL - Always ask permission from the property owner.
Good luck with your complaint, it'll get no interest.
So when someone takes a photo of a skyline or a building do you go and ask permission?
A building, (anyones property) yes you're supposed to, especially if you're wanting to use the photo for some kind of work/publication.
Incorrect. If you're stood on public property or at a public event on private you can photo what you like. I don't recall google asking every person in Britain if it was OK to photo their house and car.
Nick
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
FAIL - Nick is correct
FAIL - Always ask permission from the property owner.
Good luck with your complaint, it'll get no interest.
So when someone takes a photo of a skyline or a building do you go and ask permission?
A building, (anyones property) yes you're supposed to, especially if you're wanting to use the photo for some kind of work/publication.
But Nick wasn't using his photo for publication.........
But he's got a photo of someone elses property without permission and exclaiming that they can't use it.
My car is my intellectual property and any photographs of it are therefore mine.
Intellectual property is IDEAS and ART; its not physical
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
FAIL - Nick is correct
FAIL - Always ask permission from the property owner.
Good luck with your complaint, it'll get no interest.
So when someone takes a photo of a skyline or a building do you go and ask permission?
A building, (anyones property) yes you're supposed to, especially if you're wanting to use the photo for some kind of work/publication.
Incorrect. If you're stood on public property or at a public event on private you can photo what you like. I don't recall google asking every person in Britain if it was OK to photo their house and car.
Nick
It is correct and google did create a stir photographing peoples houses without express permission.
And yes, you can photograph what you like, but only use it for your own private viewing pleasure. If you want anything else from it such as 'you can't use that photo of your property' then you've got to have had an agreement prior.
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
FAIL - Nick is correct
FAIL - Always ask permission from the property owner.
Good luck with your complaint, it'll get no interest.
So when someone takes a photo of a skyline or a building do you go and ask permission?
A building, (anyones property) yes you're supposed to, especially if you're wanting to use the photo for some kind of work/publication.
But Nick wasn't using his photo for publication.........
But he's got a photo of someone elses property without permission and exclaiming that they can't use it.
My car is my intellectual property and any photographs of it are therefore mine.
Intellectual property is IDEAS and ART; its not physical
Yes, a photo is art, the photo will be intellectual property.
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
FAIL - Nick is correct
FAIL - Always ask permission from the property owner.
Good luck with your complaint, it'll get no interest.
So when someone takes a photo of a skyline or a building do you go and ask permission?
A building, (anyones property) yes you're supposed to, especially if you're wanting to use the photo for some kind of work/publication.
But Nick wasn't using his photo for publication.........
But he's got a photo of someone elses property without permission and exclaiming that they can't use it.
My car is my intellectual property and any photographs of it are therefore mine.
Intellectual property is IDEAS and ART; its not physical
Yes, a photo is art, the photo will be intellectual property.
You said your car was :rolleyes: Try and get your words in the correct order
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Photos of my car is what I meant, don't be the pedant! :laugh:
Anyway, good luck with whatever happens.
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Not in the slightest fella. Copyright of an image always remains with the photographer unless you sign it away in a contract. Thanks for the input though.
nick
His car and you never asked for permission. He's free to use it as he wishes. You'd not get any lawer interested.
FAIL - Nick is correct
FAIL - Always ask permission from the property owner.
Good luck with your complaint, it'll get no interest.
So when someone takes a photo of a skyline or a building do you go and ask permission?
A building, (anyones property) yes you're supposed to, especially if you're wanting to use the photo for some kind of work/publication.
Incorrect. If you're stood on public property or at a public event on private you can photo what you like. I don't recall google asking every person in Britain if it was OK to photo their house and car.
Nick
It is correct and google did create a stir photographing peoples houses without express permission.
And yes, you can photograph what you like, but only use it for your own private viewing pleasure. If you want anything else from it such as 'you can't use that photo of your property' then you've got to have had an agreement prior.
Sorry you're totally wrong. I can put it a gallery and charge £500 a print and the car owner has no right to a penny. He put his car in public.
I should probably point out I am a qualified photographer, part of the qualification included the copyright laws of photography and as an artist who displays and sells his work on the internet It's a very important thing for me to have knowledge on.
Nick
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Photos of my car is what I meant, don't be the pedant! :laugh:
Anyway, good luck with whatever happens.
You might have missed it as this thread is moving fast but they apologized for not checking that the owner owned the copyright and that they will tighten up their procedures. I didn't ask for any money because it was only one shot. As I said earlier I have had a set of shots used without permission from a show before and Invoiced for the work and received a cheque.
Nick
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This may help clear things up...
1.Who owns the copyright on photographs?
Under law, it is the photographer who will own copyright on any photos he/she has taken, with the following exceptions:
•If the photographer is an employee of the company the photos are taken for, or is an employee of a company instructed to take the photos, the photographer will be acting on behalf of his/her employer, and the company the photographer works for will own the copyright.
•If there is an agreement that assigns copyright to another party.
In all other cases, the photographer will retain the copyright, if the photographer has been paid for his work, the payment will be for the photographer’s time and typically an allocated number of prints. The copyright to the photos will remain with the photographer, and therefore any reproduction without permission would be an infringement of copyright.
taken from,
http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/protect/p16_photography_copyright
for the avoidance of any copyright issues :smiley:
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Photos of my car is what I meant, don't be the pedant! :laugh:
Anyway, good luck with whatever happens.
You might have missed it as this thread is moving fast but they apologized for not checking that the owner owned the copyright and that they will tighten up their procedures. I didn't ask for any money because it was only one shot. As I said earlier I have had a set of shots used without permission from a show before and Invoiced for the work and received a cheque.
Nick
Ok fair enough, but another note, a mag will not want bad press regardless so a cheque is nothing to them to 'shut someone up' so that it is quickly put to bed.
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This may help clear things up...
1.Who owns the copyright on photographs?
Under law, it is the photographer who will own copyright on any photos he/she has taken, with the following exceptions:
•If the photographer is an employee of the company the photos are taken for, or is an employee of a company instructed to take the photos, the photographer will be acting on behalf of his/her employer, and the company the photographer works for will own the copyright.
•If there is an agreement that assigns copyright to another party.
In all other cases, the photographer will retain the copyright, if the photographer has been paid for his work, the payment will be for the photographer’s time and typically an allocated number of prints. The copyright to the photos will remain with the photographer, and therefore any reproduction without permission would be an infringement of copyright.
taken from,
http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/protect/p16_photography_copyright
for the avoidance of any copyright issues :smiley:
This^^^^^
Photos of my car is what I meant, don't be the pedant! :laugh:
Anyway, good luck with whatever happens.
You might have missed it as this thread is moving fast but they apologized for not checking that the owner owned the copyright and that they will tighten up their procedures. I didn't ask for any money because it was only one shot. As I said earlier I have had a set of shots used without permission from a show before and Invoiced for the work and received a cheque.
Nick
Ok fair enough, but another note, a mag will not want bad press regardless so a cheque is nothing to them to 'shut someone up' so that it is quickly put to bed.
Not at all, they admitted they had infringed copyright on my work, paid me several hundred pounds and sent me a lengthy apology. THey know the score, they hire free lance photographers to photograph shows and feature cars.
Nick
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Nick, I know you're right on this one, James (my son) has also had various photos half inched for various publications, usually done out of desperation (no offense) for images, of a past event... and taking the hit, if, and when it gets discovered by the Photographer... just part of every day at work for them, they know they've done it, but its business as usual
I took some photo's of James Kiteboarding a few years back, the shop that he was sponsored by, just took the images, and put them straight onto a promotional leaflet.. pissed me off a bit, so I know how you feel...
Thom
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Nick, I know you're right on this one, James (my son) has also had various photos half inched for various publications, usually done out of desperation (no offense) for images, of a past event... and taking the hit, if, and when it gets discovered by the Photographer... just part of every day at work for them, they know they've done it, but its business as usual
I took some photo's of James Kiteboarding a few years back, the shop that he was sponsored by, just took the images, and put them straight onto a promotional leaflet.. pissed me off a bit, so I know how you feel...
Thom
It's a bummer isn't it, a small credit would always be welcome. I'm not a money grabbing type of guy but it would be nice for people to know who's hard work it was.
Been following your son's stuff on facebook. He's very very good.
nick
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Just take it as a compliment. I've had photos of mine published in the past and it's actually made me happy as someone has appreciated it enough to publish it and give my photo publicity that it otherwise may have never had.
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Just take it as a compliment. I've had photos of mine published in the past and it's actually made me happy as someone has appreciated it enough to publish it and give my photo publicity that it otherwise may have never had.
I do, it's a huge compliment but it's not very good publicity if my name isn't next to it! PVW used some of my shots with permission and all I asked for was that they credited me as the photographer which they dually did. Like I said I'm not after fists full of cash, just the recognition of my work and to pint out that they should be a littl emore careful about the photos they publish without getting permission of the photographer.
nick
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drinks are on you then nick :grin:
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The time when they paid up was a couple of years ago you cheeky chap. However I'll always be happy to get you a pint in young man.
Nick
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This is the pic I took of James, culprit who used the pic is on the bottom of his board!! spose its too late to get some money out of then now, they've not used the leaflet for some time now...
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f90/thom62/cornwall205.jpg)
James was impressed that you "Liked" his facebook page! he took it as a compliment, though he really should get some more of his work on it, he has some incredible VW air cooled shots, that Im sure the car owners would love to get their hands on :lipsrsealed:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/James-Langton-Photography/148254541897872
Thom
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His stuff is well worth Liking. Does he use Flickr?
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:grin: that is all
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did you watermark your image nick?
oh and the guy saying its my car so its my photo made me chuckle. thanks :afro:
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I now feel the need to get in touch with Kylie about her album you downloaded off the piratebay Mr Horn..... :wink:
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I did that hoping she'd come round in person for the royalties. :grin:
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*starts downloading Pussycat dolls new album.... :grin:
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did you watermark your image nick?
oh and the guy saying its my car so its my photo made me chuckle. thanks :afro:
+1 loltastic.
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Come on then, where is the pic or have I got to buy the magazine?
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Tis this one:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2398/5747348836_6821f0fb9f_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickhorne/5747348836/)
DATP-30 (Explored) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickhorne/5747348836/) by Nicholas R Horne (http://www.flickr.com/people/nickhorne/), on Flickr
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I went through all 6 pages to find the picture LOL
And its stunning!!