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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: faigolfgti on 23 June 2011, 09:47

Title: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: faigolfgti on 23 June 2011, 09:47
As topic above!What is the MAX performance for vr6 2.8 can i gain with bolt on performance parts like camshafts,big thorttlebody,performance chip and other but without going to turbo,supercharge or increase capacity?
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: Len on 23 June 2011, 09:49
Depends how deep your pockets are! Can get REALLY expensive!
Spend say £3k and you might get 250/280bhp???
Dunno go do the research.
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 23 June 2011, 09:52
I think it is around 220bhp without forced induction.
Wait for Glen(Ess-Three) to appear, he will be able to give you more detailed info.
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: Wayne on 23 June 2011, 10:41
Yep your looking at around 220bhp but as above Glen is the one to ask.
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 23 June 2011, 11:00
It would be cheaper to go the forced route.

You'd want cams, ported and polished head and throttle body, Shrick manifold, then you would want proper induction and exhaust. That will cost around 2.5k at least second hand..
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: faigolfgti on 24 June 2011, 06:40
The mods i already done to my vw golf mk3 vr6 is:-schrick vsr inlet manifold,CAT 256 performance cams,EIP stsge-3 chip,k&n panel filter,corrado vr6 2.9 big throat thorttlebody,full abt exhaust system and remove CAT,so what is the estimate BHP and TORQUE for my vr6?
Thank You.
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: Wayne on 24 June 2011, 07:59
The mods i already done to my vw golf mk3 vr6 is:-schrick vsr inlet manifold,CAT 256 performance cams,EIP stsge-3 chip,k&n panel filter,corrado vr6 2.9 big throat thorttlebody,full abt exhaust system and remove CAT,so what is the estimate BHP and TORQUE for my vr6?
Thank You.

200 to 220bhp as a guess
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: Len on 24 June 2011, 09:06
The mods i already done to my vw golf mk3 vr6 is:-schrick vsr inlet manifold,CAT 256 performance cams,EIP stsge-3 chip,k&n panel filter,corrado vr6 2.9 big throat thorttlebody,full abt exhaust system and remove CAT,so what is the estimate BHP and TORQUE for my vr6?
Thank You.

Get it on a Rolling Road and find out! :rolleyes:
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Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 24 June 2011, 10:43
That thing with all those done will be torque tastic!  :cool:

Can i ask why you went with 256 cams?
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: faigolfgti on 24 June 2011, 13:23
The reason i choose CAT 256 cams is becuase i prefer high torque and future if i want to turbo or supercharge my vr6 i can still use this cams
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: Len on 24 June 2011, 14:03
The wrong cams may actually reduce power!
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: tweed on 24 June 2011, 14:22
I want my vr6 to stay NA. overtime I am buying parts. lightened crank (forged if possible) light rods, high comp pistons. I want to bore it as much as possible. 3.0? lots of head work porting etc. wild cams, good springs, titanium followers, jenvey itb's. slightly bigger injectors, good fuel pump, standalone ecu and a good map. 6 branch manifold and decat, custom decat back. maybe NOS and a lsd and some 6 pot brakes  :grin:


Then things like oil cooler and pro alloy radiator etc. (my mate works at pro  :wink:)
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: cняis on 24 June 2011, 21:23
I want my vr6 to stay NA. overtime I am buying parts. lightened crank (forged if possible) light rods, high comp pistons. I want to bore it as much as possible. 3.0? lots of head work porting etc. wild cams, good springs, titanium followers, jenvey itb's. slightly bigger injectors, good fuel pump, standalone ecu and a good map. 6 branch manifold and decat, custom decat back. maybe NOS and a lsd and some 6 pot brakes  :grin:


Then things like oil cooler and pro alloy radiator etc. (my mate works at pro  :wink:)

I guess you'd need all the help you can get moving that heavy mk3 about  :tongue:
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: Wayne on 24 June 2011, 21:52
256 or 262 cams are fine on a VR, anything wilder can hurt power or torque.
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: Adam on 24 June 2011, 22:02
The wrong cams may actually reduce power!

+10200000

My old MK2 2.0 16V made 120bhp and 92ft lb with some silly cams that the monkeys at TSR fitted. Twats
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 24 June 2011, 23:27
Didn't Wayne used to work for TSR...  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: faigolfgti on 25 June 2011, 11:53
I have done so much to my vr6 but on 0 to 60mhp time still can't beat the standard vw golf mk5 gti(197bhp)
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: tweed on 25 June 2011, 13:28
Can't have done that much then  :undecided:

they weight more for a start.
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: dom on 25 June 2011, 23:54
I have done so much to my vr6 but on 0 to 60mhp time still can't beat the standard vw golf mk5 gti(197bhp)

The MK5 is less than 0.5 secs quicker to 60 than a standard VR so you either haven't done much to improve the power or you have increased the power and are a crap driver.
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: F17BAD on 27 June 2011, 10:57
i had a VR and didnt find it fast either... they sound good but too heavy.. id put money on a standard mk5 GTI wooping your ass all day long unless you have a charger or turbo...
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: jimmyb on 01 July 2011, 23:05
i think a n/a vr6 with 220 bhp would be a beast, i would make sure you spend your money on a obd 2 though, ;) 
Title: Re: What is the max bhp for VR6 2.8 with bolt on stuff?Without Turbo or Supercharge!
Post by: jimmyb on 03 July 2011, 11:35
maybe NOS and a lsd and some 6 pot brakes  :grin:

i will sell my nos, 1 of the small plastic pipes has a leak at the moment, very cheap fix though about £5, its a wizards of nos kit, have the receipt for £515(and another of £250 for fitting), theres some in the bottle too. :cool:    actually just buy my car, its got a vortech v1 charger, ap racing 4 pots,new jamex coilies, eibach strut brace/roll bars, polished inlet manifold, ap clutch,janspeed cat back,k&n filter, fake bbs ch`s 10 months m.o.t and about 4 months tax! bargain at £2300! lol