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General => Car audio => Topic started by: les.tansey on 09 June 2011, 02:46
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Right, just bare in mind that i'm a real noob when it comes to car audio :grin:
My right hand door speaker rattles'fizzes at certain volumes and on certain songs, and was wondering wha :grin: it could be... could it :grin: be a lose connection? or a split in the speaker?
would it be worthwhile upgrading all of the door speakers or whatever? how much difference would it make, considering I wouldn't really want to spend anymore than £100 really... as in would I actually notice any difference?
This is my current headunit which my dad gave me:
(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n602/lestansey/101020101637.jpg)
What would all you car audio experts reccomend I do, should i just replace the dodgy speaker/fix it or buy a new system :undecided: :undecided:, if so what should i get... baring in mind i know like nothing about car audio stuff...
also can you spray paint the grills of the door speakers without afecting the sound? I can't imagine it doing anything but would rather be sure...
Any help would be great :wink:
Cheers, Les :wink:
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The speaker is probably deteriorating accelerated by a more powerful headunit. Replace the front speakers which will will make an improvement.
Why do you want to paint the grilles?
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Ahh yeah, that makes sense actually... :wink: I thought that maybe spraying the grilles saybe silver would be a nice touch i suppose :smiley:
Are these the right size, and do they have good spec...? I like the price and also quite like that yellow (especially when its behind a silver grille :laugh:)
http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/reviews_m-in-phase-xtw6_p-24087.htm
Oh and if i went as far as replacing all 4 door speakers and added a bass in the boot, would my head unit power it all okay?
Cheers, Les :wink:
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The 4 door speaker sets yes, but the boot sub no! You will need and amp for that.
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They are just single speakers, you need components for the doors that have two speakers comprising mid/bass and seperate tweeters.
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Ahh right cheers Len, are the ones I need like coaxial or 2 way or something?
Are these alright?
http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-in-phase-xtc6_p-19738.htm
Would I have to use the original mk3 grilles of these, because they done seem to have any in the picture?
Cheers :wink:
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Yea thats the ones you need mate!
Components they called as there can be 3 bits - 2 speakers and a crossover.
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I wouldn't buy inphase stuff mate.
In my experience the build quality is shocking. Won't last very long at all and won't sound super great either.
mk3 has components as std but doesn't have a crossover like aftermarket components so you'll need to find some way of hiding/fitting it.
You could go co-ax but the sound won't be as good as comps, but they're easier and cheaper (generally to fit).
you'll want 6.5inch speakers for the doors. Ideally you'll want a set with various cutouts on the surround. Difficult to explain, ummm, most speakers have 4 screw holes for mounting. The standard locations have a few little nobbles that stick out a couple of mm to locate the speakers. If you buy a set of aftermarkets that don't have these you'll need to file these down which is fiddly.
Remove the grille and you'll see what i mean.
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I wouldn't buy inphase stuff mate.
In my experience the build quality is shocking. Won't last very long at all and won't sound super great either.
mk3 has components as std but doesn't have a crossover like aftermarket components so you'll need to find some way of hiding/fitting it.
You could go co-ax but the sound won't be as good as comps, but they're easier and cheaper (generally to fit).
you'll want 6.5inch speakers for the doors. Ideally you'll want a set with various cutouts on the surround. Difficult to explain, ummm, most speakers have 4 screw holes for mounting. The standard locations have a few little nobbles that stick out a couple of mm to locate the speakers. If you buy a set of aftermarkets that don't have these you'll need to file these down which is fiddly.
Remove the grille and you'll see what i mean.
Sorry mate, what are "crossovers" and "comps" I have like no idea with regards to ICE :embarassed:
I take what you say on board, but the In Phase gear seemed to get really good reviews, look: http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-in-phase-xtc6_p-19738.htm
What system would you reccomend for £100 or less (for all 4 doors)?
Thanks for the advice, Les :wink:
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Yea thats the ones you need mate!
Components they called as there can be 3 bits - 2 speakers and a crossover.
Cheers buddy, they seem to have alright reviews... What other systems would you recomend for around the £100 mark (for all 4 doors)
Cheers :wink:
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I've had bad experiences with inphase stuff in the past. Subs, amps, components lasting under 6 months. Not sounding great compared to other brands. They are a budget brand and there is better out there for the same money. Fusion, Vibe, JBL all much better than inphase mate.
Comps = component speaker.
A component speaker set is a set of different size speakers, with a crossover which sends each particuliar speaker the optimum frequencies for it to receive.
For instance. The HU (head unit) sends out 20Hz-20kHz along down the speaker cable. Now if you tried to play 20Hz through a teeny tiny tweeter it would die. It's designed to play from around, say 5kHz. The crossover stops any frequencies under this particuliar point reaching the tweeter. Instead it send them to the other speaker in the set. A midrange for instance, whic is able to play between 60Hz & 5kHz.
Co-ax is basically a comp in one unit. You'll notice it has a little tweeter on the front of it. It'll also have a built in crossover to protect the inbuilt tweeter.
Generally the bigger the speaker the lower the frequencies it prefers to play. Hence the reason subwoofers are normally a lot bigger (10-18inchs generally) than full range speakers (normally between 8 & 4inchs).
When you buy a set of comps you'll normally have 2x bigger speakers (mids), 2 tiny speakers (tweeters), 2 crossovers (little device to split frequencies between speakers).
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I've had bad experiences with inphase stuff in the past. Subs, amps, components lasting under 6 months. Not sounding great compared to other brands. They are a budget brand and there is better out there for the same money. Fusion, Vibe, JBL all much better than inphase mate.
Comps = component speaker.
A component speaker set is a set of different size speakers, with a crossover which sends each particuliar speaker the optimum frequencies for it to receive.
For instance. The HU (head unit) sends out 20Hz-20kHz along down the speaker cable. Now if you tried to play 20Hz through a teeny tiny tweeter it would die. It's designed to play from around, say 5kHz. The crossover stops any frequencies under this particuliar point reaching the tweeter. Instead it send them to the other speaker in the set. A midrange for instance, whic is able to play between 60Hz & 5kHz.
Co-ax is basically a comp in one unit. You'll notice it has a little tweeter on the front of it. It'll also have a built in crossover to protect the inbuilt tweeter.
Generally the bigger the speaker the lower the frequencies it prefers to play. Hence the reason subwoofers are normally a lot bigger (10-18inchs generally) than full range speakers (normally between 8 & 4inchs).
When you buy a set of comps you'll normally have 2x bigger speakers (mids), 2 tiny speakers (tweeters), 2 crossovers (little device to split frequencies between speakers).
Thanks buddy, that clears a few things up a bit :wink:
Would these be better than the in phase ones? I actually quite like the yellow for some reason :laugh:
http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-pioneer-ts-e1796_p-20289.htm
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Personally I would get Infinity speakers but may not fit your budget.
But may do, shop around.
Check the caraudiodirect link down in the Deals and Discount section as they give free delivery which will help with costs!
Components - 2 speakers one is a tweeter, the front one is in the dash and the rear is just above the door grab handle. The other is a mid/bass whish is 6.5 inch and goes in the doors.
In between the two speaker there should be a crossover, a little box with connectors. This is to seperate the frequencies, the higher going to the tweeter and the lower to mid/bass.
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Personally I would get Infinity speakers but may not fit your budget.
But may do, shop around.
Check the caraudiodirect link down in the Deals and Discount section as they give free delivery which will help with costs!
Components - 2 speakers one is a tweeter, the front one is in the dash and the rear is just above the door grab handle. The other is a mid/bass whish is 6.5 inch and goes in the doors.
In between the two speaker there should be a crossover, a little box with connectors. This is to seperate the frequencies, the higher going to the tweeter and the lower to mid/bass.
Riiight okay, so you know with regards to the component sets, do those tweeters go inside the dash and replace the originals in there and/or do they go in the ones next to the door grab handles in the rear doors?
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Those pioneers are a good illustration of what I meant about the surround with cut outs.
Components would replace both the mid and the tweet. The beauty of after market is you can put them where you want. I have replaced the tweets and put the new ones in the standard location before. It worked well.
Any reason you picked those co-ax over some components?
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The front set of components = tweeters go in dash. Mids go in doors
Rear set of components = tweeters go in door handle. Mids in doors.
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B-chi - Ermmm no reason really just thought that might be what i needed, but it seems i could be better off with component speakers... :undecided:
Len - Cheers for clearing that up
So what swould be the best to go for then co-ax or comps?
Here are two sets of comps, what would be better out of the two of them? (I would be getting two sets of these - so that all of the speakers are nice and fresh):
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/8049.html
OR
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/8493.html
Oh yeah how come in the 6.5" section the woofers diameters range from 16cm - 16.5cm - 17cm... they cant all be the equivalent as 6.5"... or am i missing something?
Cheers guys :wink:
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Components are better because they have seperate tweeters which are mounted up higher than the mids.
Its better to get the higher frequencies up nearer ear level.
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Components are better because they have seperate tweeters which are mounted up higher than the mids.
Its better to get the higher frequencies up nearer ear level.
Ahh right, yeah that makes logical sense cheers Len.
Looks like im going for components then, so which of the above are the best, I think the kenwood ones, but... :undecided:
:wink:
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In that price range, with the supplier these
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/9119.html
Then get yourself over on talkaudio as a genesis dealer has an ex demo series 2. 2x80wrms.
That combined with those speakers could sound lovely and for under £150 as well.
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Thought he only wanted to spend £100?
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Yeah, I did originally and still do really but I'm slowly being tempted into spending a bit more but would have to draw the loine at £150 really :wink:
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Thought it wa £100 on speakers sorry.
Those speakers would be a great start to an install
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no worries, i am sort of considering spending say £150 now but thats my max :wink: