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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: tech1889 on 16 May 2011, 16:33

Title: Smoothed Bay
Post by: tech1889 on 16 May 2011, 16:33

Well some of you may know im going for a smoothed bay on my mk2.. Ive seen a few bays but nothing with close or detailed pictures or any info on the best route to make a smoothed bay...

So im asking all you mk2 lovers can you post any pictures you have of smoothed or partially smoother mk2 golf bays.. with or without engine.. and any info you have on smoothed bays and the best way to tackle them..

Many thanks guys  :smiley:

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: tech1889 on 16 May 2011, 16:37

This si the look i am after more of a 'tubbed' bay

(http://www.mk2golf.co.uk/respray/pas_rear_leg.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5122/5235568284_d6e6d9146e.jpg)

(http://image.eurotuner.com/f/29723259+w750+st0/eurp_0910_03_o+1991_volkswagen_golf_gti_vr6+v6_engine_bay.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5206/5235568288_2e3b2e00a5.jpg)

(http://euromedian.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/4895201571_049f783399_o.jpg)

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: Toby on 16 May 2011, 16:47

 :evil: that red one looks the dogs!!  :lipsrsealed: i had loads of pic's when i was getting ideas for my mk2 RIP! ill see if there on external memory  :grin:

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: Benrevs on 16 May 2011, 16:47

I have done a few to different levels.  The red one was just the main holes and battery tray etc and the other was an Ibiza which i had to fabricate the whole bay as it is normally just a skeleton!  Whatever lengths you go to it will take ages  :grin:  There is a fair amount of flex within the engine bay so welding is a must.

(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/benrevs/Image102-1.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/benrevs/Image099-1.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/benrevs/Image103-1.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/benrevs/Image101-1.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/benrevs/6333_123122050484_508575484_2403527.jpg)

(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/benrevs/Ibiza/Image118.jpg)

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: tech1889 on 16 May 2011, 16:55

Cheers Guys..

Ben i love the look of the last picture thats what im after.. you got any advice for this kind of look ??

Also what filler do you recommend ??

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: Benrevs on 16 May 2011, 17:32

That was really hard to do, but mostly because it was like this before:

(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/benrevs/DSCN0490ibiza.jpg)

But mk2's are half done for you! I would get some filler with a bit of flex in it.. such as this
(http://www.autopaintsbrighton.co.uk/ekmps/shops/autopaints/images/u-pol-fantastic-lightweight-2k-bodyfiller-3l-no-pin-hole-technology-upol-1044-p%5Bekm%5D99x120%5Bekm%5D.jpg)
If you need to put a fair bit in, mix it with normal fibreglass filler for strength.

Imo the most time consuming part is getting all the old rubber sealant off, so a good blowtorch is a must!  When doing the Ibiza bay I just made a template from card and tried to make it all from as little pieces as possible.  Welding a little at a time saves a lot of warping of the metal and a lot more filler and effort later on.  I will try and dig up an old build thread of a nice bay.

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: tech1889 on 16 May 2011, 17:38

Well luckily i have already removed all the dodgey putty type stuff VW used when making the car..

I am thinking of boxing in the chassis legs.. and then just trying to smooth what else i can within my limits  :smiley:

If you could dig some info up that would be great mate  :smiley:

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: mwep201081 on 16 May 2011, 18:45

Quote from: tech1889 on 16 May 2011, 17:38

Well luckily i have already removed all the dodgey putty type stuff VW used when making the car..

I am thinking of boxing in the chassis legs.. and then just trying to smooth what else i can within my limits  :smiley:

If you could dig some info up that would be great mate  :smiley:

Do you mean the seam sealer? which has kept your car from falling to pieces for at east 20 years? :laugh:

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: tech1889 on 16 May 2011, 18:46

I didnt mean it was bad stuff all i mean was VW didnt apply it neatly and its a right b!tch to remove lol

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: mwep201081 on 17 May 2011, 01:04

Quote from: tech1889 on 16 May 2011, 18:46

I didnt mean it was bad stuff all i mean was VW didnt apply it neatly and its a right b!tch to remove lol

They applied it neatly on type 1,2 and 3s...they rotted

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: Wayne on 17 May 2011, 08:59

Those bays look really nice when finished  :cool:

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: Diamond Hell on 17 May 2011, 12:51

You realise 'smoothed bays' are for nonces, don't you?

Also if you're thinking about it, cutting off the scuttle = bad as you're removing the VIN number as well as structural rigidity.

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: tech1889 on 17 May 2011, 12:55

do you approve of hydro pedal boxes ??

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: Sam on 17 May 2011, 15:26

Does the scuttle really give em that much structure? I have to bend mine slightly to remove my turbo and I can do it by hand easily

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: Diamond Hell on 17 May 2011, 15:29

Quote from: tech1889 on 17 May 2011, 12:55

do you approve of hydro pedal boxes ??

They have their place.

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: Wayne on 17 May 2011, 15:30

Quote from: caistor_bmx on 17 May 2011, 15:26

Does the scuttle really give em that much structure? I have to bend mine slightly to remove my turbo and I can do it by hand easily

I guess it will add a little strength but cannot see it being much  :undecided:

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: tech1889 on 17 May 2011, 15:52

Quote from: Diamond Hell on 17 May 2011, 15:29

Quote from: tech1889 on 17 May 2011, 12:55

do you approve of hydro pedal boxes ??

They have their place.

And that place i assume is on a track ?? are they ok to run on a normal driving car ??

Title: Re: Smoothed Bay
Post by: Diamond Hell on 17 May 2011, 21:57

Quote from: tech1889 on 17 May 2011, 15:52

And that place i assume is on a track ?? are they ok to run on a normal driving car ??

Daily driver actually.  That's where you want the reduced pedal resistance.  :wink: