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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: am1w on 14 May 2011, 10:36
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Yesterday evening, I had the opportunity of driving a white 5 door Mk6 GTI with ACC and 17" wheels shod with Bridgestone Potenza tyres. Needless to say, I compared it with mine which is very similar but has 18" wheels and Bridgestone Potenza tyres.
Both cars had full tanks of petrol and the tyre pressures checked when cold. I also had a Bruel & Kjaer sound level meter to hand. Both cars have done approximately 3500 miles and tyre wear was exactly the same. We drove the cars in 'Normal' and 'Comfort' modes.
This is what we found:
(1) The 17" wheels poduced less noise by approximately 1.7 dB(A) averaged over a couple of measurements. They really felt quiter. We did not conduct dB SPL measurements or a 1/3 octave band frequency analysis.
(2) The 17" wheels produced a more compliant ride in both 'Comfort' and 'Normal' modes. There was much less crashing over sharp ridges.
(3) We also found the ride in 'Normal' mode with the 17" much more acceptble.
(4) In 'Comfort' mode, the 17" produced a magic carpet ride.
(5) The 18" wheels prduced very slightly better handling for me (very subjective), though my friend preferred the ability of the 17" in this respect.
(6) The 18" wheels looked infinitely better.
I hope you don't mind me starting a thread on this topic.
As for me, I am glad I got the 18" wheels, as I am a show-off and the Blingmiester. :grin:
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I'll jump in for the tiny wheels :grin:
I'm glad I've got the 17 inch wheels.
They are just that little bit more comfortable.
They are easier to look after (less likely to suffer from the dreaded kerbs)
There is no lacquer on them which might peel off (although mine are black so different anyway)
and... tyres are reasonably priced. £100 a corner for Michelin Pilot Sport 3's.
My mate has 19 inch wheels and he had to fork out £300 for 1 x Michelin Pilot Sport 2.
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But some people need that extra inch.... :laugh:
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But some people need that extra inch.... :laugh:
Ouch!!! :laugh:
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In all honesty I've driven on both and can say that I must have a proper hard arse as I am unable to feel any difference. Actually I guess it's what I am used to but I prefer the ride on my 18s TBH.
The monza shadows look so much better too.
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i prefer the ride on 19"... feels alot more planted and mine are much quieter on 19z than the 17z in bridgestones ever were.
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Any recommendations for winter tyres with 17 wheels?
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Any recommendations for winter tyres with 17 wheels?
Hi Noel,
These,
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Dunlop-Winter-Sport-4D-launched.htm. :smiley:
Asker
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I agreee with Gizzy, you need to be a real anal knob to really tell any difference between them. I went from 17s to 18s on mine and there was nothing in it . . .
The 18s, as you stated, looked soooo much better words cant explain it. The 17s look so cheap and half arsed.
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(1) I agreee with Gizzy, you need to be a real anal knob to really tell any difference between them. I went from 17s to 18s on mine and there was nothing in it . . .
(2) The 18s, as you stated, looked soooo much better words cant explain it. The 17s look so cheap and half arsed.
Answer:
(1) I am, big time. :grin:
(2) I agree. :grin: :grin:
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See what I did there. Subtly called you an anal knob :D :kiss:
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See what I did there. Subtly called you an anal knob :D :kiss:
Never a truer word was said in jest, but that does not hold true in reality. Mind you, one needs to try everything before death do us part. :kiss: :kiss: :laugh:
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I'll jump in for the tiny wheels :grin:
I'm glad I've got the 17 inch wheels.
They are just that little bit more comfortable.
They are easier to look after (less likely to suffer from the dreaded kerbs)
There is no lacquer on them which might peel off (although mine are black so different anyway)
and... tyres are reasonably priced. £100 a corner for Michelin Pilot Sport 3's.
My mate has 19 inch wheels and he had to fork out £300 for 1 x Michelin Pilot Sport 2.
Before I ordered latest MK6 I test drove 18" demo on local roads and it was OK. Obviously they didn't have a 17" demo to compare, so I had to wait until my order arrived !
In comparison the 17" is just a much nicer experience. After all I didn't buy the car to satisfy the aesthetics Police.
:wink:
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In comparison the 17" is just a much nicer experience.
Really ? :huh:
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am1w, you worry me sometimes :D
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Put it this way:
Two women (or men), one not too attractive (17") but a good ride the other a stunner (18") but a reasonable ride.
Which one would you go for?
I know one thing, the doggy one would not give me a hard-on even though she/he was supposed to be a good ride. So it would be a waste.
On that note, I'll have the stunner and have satisfaction guaranteed. :grin:
Different strokes for different folks and all that jazz ..... :rolleyes:
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am1w, you worry me sometimes :D
I am so glad you care. :kiss:
I try and inject some fun into the forum together with my partner Exonian.
You and moi are Londoners and have to stick together. Most of the guys and gals on here are form the Northern wastes. :evil:
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Tell me about it, took my car to Leeds and it broke down! Dodgy northern air.
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Tell me about it, took my car to Leeds and it broke down! Dodgy northern air.
At least you did not get it stolen or have R32UK ram it. :laugh:
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In comparison the 17" is just a much nicer experience. After all I didn't buy the car to satisfy the aesthetics Police.
:wink:
I agree...if 'nicer' is wobbly sidewalls and less precise steering!...with a slightly more compliant ride...but then, it's a GTI isn't it? Not a Lexus?
I noticed the 18" winter wheels were slightly more comfortable than the 19"s...but the bigger wheels offer more precise steering.
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You should all be embarrassed and ashamed of yourselves. :shocked:
You should be talking about how light the wheel/tyres are and not how big.
Remember for handling it isn't the length, but the width that counts (oo-err missis! :laugh:)
Having said that I loved the 19's on the Golf R and the ride was more than acceptable for my gnarly old back. (http://gi144.photobucket.com/groups/r174/ORA4P1AL9K/Grandpa_Angry.gif)
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Does anyone know if the wheels from the new EOS are compatible with the Golf? I assume they are :undecided:
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Does anyone know if the wheels from the new EOS are compatible with the Golf? I assume they are :undecided:
They'll bolt up okay. The offsets are lower (ET44 I think) like the Scirocco, so they'll sit slightly further out in the arch.
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Does anyone know if the wheels from the new EOS are compatible with the Golf? I assume they are :undecided:
They'll bolt up okay. The offsets are lower (ET44 I think) like the Scirocco, so they'll sit slightly further out in the arch.
I though Scirocco's were 35 offset?
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Stop highjacking my thread. :tongue:
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Bling - 18"s win.
All other departments 17"s win.
If you have ACC then the ride is sublime in comfort mode.
Sport mode for a weekend blast :evil:
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Bling - 18"s win.
All other departments 17"s win.
If you have ACC then the ride is sublime in comfort mode.
Sport mode for a weekend blast :evil:
Sometimes, logic is a terrible thing. :laugh:
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Stop highjacking my thread. :tongue:
Apologies :embarassed: :laugh:
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Stop highjacking my thread. :tongue:
Apologies :embarassed: :laugh:
Just joking. You are more than welcome to hijack as much as you want and I am right behind you. :kiss: :laugh:
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Scirocco wheels are ET41. Eos wheels will be similar.
And thus ends my participation in this thread. :smiley:
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Got two sets of wheels for mine. Both 18s. Personally I think the golf doesn't look as good on 17s. Can understand the winter benefits of 17s with snow etc.
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Stop highjacking my thread. :tongue:
Apologies :embarassed: :laugh:
Just joking. You are more than welcome to hijack as much as you want and I am right behind you. :kiss: :laugh:
OK! Which one? :laugh:
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Back on topic.
Seeing as I tracked on 17's and 18's I'd say 17's felt better and inspired more confidence. :cool:
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Back on topic.
Seeing as I tracked on 17's and 18's I'd say 17's felt better and inspired more confidence. :cool:
I was informed this morning by a very knowledgeable person that Topgear showed the 17s lapped quicker than the 18s on the mk5.
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Yup :smug:
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Back on topic.
Seeing as I tracked on 17's and 18's I'd say 17's felt better and inspired more confidence. :cool:
I was informed this morning by a very knowledgeable person that Topgear showed the 17s lapped quicker than the 18s on the mk5.
Yes I've seen that too. The 17's tend to break away at the limit more progressively than the 18's too :wink:
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That's two more to add to the list. :lipsrsealed:
Quieter (proved by asker).
Less breakaway (opinion from Hurdey).
We already know 17"s are:
Faster
More comfortable
Cheaper (and tyres)
Much easier to repair
Less likely to kerb
No white worm
I wonder how many would have chosen the 17"s if they came in the same
finish (with black inserts) as the Monza shadows??
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Scirocco wheels are ET41. Eos wheels will be similar.
And thus ends my participation in this thread. :smiley:
Vous etes trop grande ma chere! :grin: :kiss:
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That's two more to add to the list. :lipsrsealed:
Quieter (proved by asker).
Less breakaway (opinion from Hurdey).
We already know 17"s are:
Faster
More comfortable
Cheaper (and tyres)
Much easier to repair
Less likely to kerb
No white worm
Don't forget to mention that they look like they've come straight off a Polo.....
18's look better - FACT! :evil:
Jim
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As I said earlier:
Put it this way:
Two women (or men), one not too attractive (17") but a good ride the other a stunner (18") but a reasonable ride.
Which one would you go for?
I know one thing, the doggy one would not give me a hard-on even though she/he was supposed to be a good ride. So it would be a waste.
On that note, I'll have the stunner and have satisfaction guaranteed. :grin:
Different strokes for different folks and all that jazz ..... :rolleyes:
:smug:
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As I said earlier:
Put it this way:
Two women (or men), one not too attractive (17") but a good ride the other a stunner (18") but a reasonable ride.
Which one would you go for?
I know one thing, the doggy one would not give me a hard-on even though she/he was supposed to be a good ride. So it would be a waste.
On that note, I'll have the stunner and have satisfaction guaranteed. :grin:
Different strokes for different folks and all that jazz ..... :rolleyes:
:smug:
LMFAO - I hadn’t read that, genius!
Jim
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Also repeating my post.
18"s win in the looks department.
17"s win in every other.
Depends what you want from your car......
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Also repeating my post.
18"s win in the looks department.
17"s win in every other.
Depends what you want from your car......
Looks, sexiness and envious looks from everyone. Call me shallow. Call me anything you want. But I've got the sex appeal with my 18". Just thinking about them gives me a hot flush :laugh:
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I've had an embarrassing amount of compliments about my car.
Wearing 17" and proud of it :grin:
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I've had an embarrassing amount of compliments about my car.
Wearing 17" and proud of it :grin:
Ooooh, you are being sooo bashful! It's you they are after for sure. :grin:
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Didn't buy my car for the benefit of others.
I wanted a fast, reliable, practical, economical and good looking family car.
20 months later and I still think I made the perfect choice.
I've enjoyed every single day of ownership. :smiley:
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As I said earlier:
Put it this way:
Two women (or men), one not too attractive (17") but a good ride the other a stunner (18") but a reasonable ride.
Which one would you go for?
I know one thing, the doggy one would not give me a hard-on even though she/he was supposed to be a good ride. So it would be a waste.
On that note, I'll have the stunner and have satisfaction guaranteed. :grin:
Different strokes for different folks and all that jazz ..... :rolleyes:
Missed out the bit about the stunner after a year or two turning into an old hag who has lots of wrinkle white lines and flaking skin all over her face and in desperate need of a face lift.
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As I said earlier:
Put it this way:
Two women (or men), one not too attractive (17") but a good ride the other a stunner (18") but a reasonable ride.
Which one would you go for?
I know one thing, the doggy one would not give me a hard-on even though she/he was supposed to be a good ride. So it would be a waste.
On that note, I'll have the stunner and have satisfaction guaranteed. :grin:
Different strokes for different folks and all that jazz ..... :rolleyes:
Missed out the bit about the stunner after a year or two turning into an old hag who has lots of wrinkle white lines and flaking skin all over her face and in desperate need of a face lift.
You know you want it, badly. :laugh:
As I am a very fickle person, I pollinate a different flower every 3 years. :evil:
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That's two more to add to the list. :lipsrsealed:
Quieter (proved by asker).
Less breakaway (opinion from Hurdey).
We already know 17"s are:
Faster
More comfortable
Cheaper (and tyres)
Much easier to repair
Less likely to kerb
No white worm
I wonder how many would have chosen the 17"s if they came in the same
finish (with black inserts) as the Monza shadows??
Don't forget much better on fuel too :grin:
I'd never have ordered my car with the 17's but after living with them I love them to bits, they never look dirty and I can get the new goodyears for 110 quid a corner fitted.....
If I get another Golf GTD I'd stick with the 17's if I get a gti then I'd have to go for the 18's for the looks alone.
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Don't forget much better on fuel too :grin:
I'd never have ordered my car with the 17's but after living with them I love them to bits, they never look dirty and I can get the new goodyears for 110 quid a corner fitted.....
If I get another Golf GTD I'd stick with the 17's if I get a gti then I'd have to go for the 18's for the looks alone.
I should not be talking to you. You are keeping a secret from me. :huh: :grin:
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Don't forget much better on fuel too :grin:
I'd never have ordered my car with the 17's but after living with them I love them to bits, they never look dirty and I can get the new goodyears for 110 quid a corner fitted.....
If I get another Golf GTD I'd stick with the 17's if I get a gti then I'd have to go for the 18's for the looks alone.
I should not be talking to you. You are keeping a secret from me. :huh: :grin:
Prey tell Sir, what is this secret you speak of?
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I've had an embarrassing amount of compliments about my car.
Wearing 17" and proud of it :grin:
You'd get even more with the extra inch :wink: :smiley:
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The secret of your replacement for the GTD. :wink:
This is what set me off. :grin:
I'm on 17's, I'd have upgraded to the 18's if I would have gone for the 18's but having lived with the 17's I love them, what's mor I can get the goodyears for £110 fitted per corner :wink:
If I buy another GTD then it will be on 17's again.
But I won't be buying another MK6 diesel golf :wink:
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The secret of your replacement for the GTD. :wink:
This is what set me off. :grin:
I'm on 17's, I'd have upgraded to the 18's if I would have gone for the 18's but having lived with the 17's I love them, what's mor I can get the goodyears for £110 fitted per corner :wink:
If I buy another GTD then it will be on 17's again.
But I won't be buying another MK6 diesel golf :wink:
Yes Sir, I don't know where that post went (globals?) hence I re-posted.
I've said few times on here that my next day to day car will most likely be a golf R, The ED35 was also in th running but I'm a little underwhelmed by it. :sad:
I love the GTD, the common rail 2.0 is super sweet and it's also been a great learning tool for work but seeing as I'm based back at our HQ again I no longer need the extra economy afforded by the GTD.
FYI I won't be changing the GTD for at least a year :wink:
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The secret of your replacement for the GTD. :wink:
This is what set me off. :grin:
I'm on 17's, I'd have upgraded to the 18's if I would have gone for the 18's but having lived with the 17's I love them, what's mor I can get the goodyears for £110 fitted per corner :wink:
If I buy another GTD then it will be on 17's again.
But I won't be buying another MK6 diesel golf :wink:
Yes Sir, I don't know where that post went (globals?) hence I re-posted.
I've said few times on here that my next day to day car will most likely be a golf R, The ED35 was also in th running but I'm a little underwhelmed by it. :sad:
I love the GTD, the common rail 2.0 is super sweet and it's also been a great learning tool for work but seeing as I'm based back at our HQ again I no longer need the extra economy afforded by the GTD.
FYI I won't be changing the GTD for at least a year :wink:
An excellent choice. Thank you kind sir. :smiley:
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Doc, you are a man after my own heart :kiss:
Indeedy, I'll be ordering a Golf R too......with 19"ers :evil:
and of course lightweight alloys for the track in 18"s as the 17"s won't usually fit over the brakes :wink:
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Doc, you are a man after my own heart :kiss:
Indeedy, I'll be ordering a Golf R too......with 19"ers :evil:
and of course lightweight alloys for the track in 18"s as the 17"s won't usually fit over the brakes :wink:
Good choice! :cool:
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lol @ people trying to defend the 17 :D :D :D :D :D
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Hurdy:
Do you not think the 19" will be too slow for you even for normal road use? :evil: :grin:
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Hurdy:
Do you not think the 19" will be too slow for you even for normal road use? :evil: :grin:
Gotta have some show with your go! :cool:
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I thought that these would go nicely with a Rising Blue Golf R :drool:
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/alleggerita_lht_18.jpg)
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I thought that these would go nicely with a Rising Blue Golf R :drool:
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/alleggerita_lht_18.jpg)
Ooooooo, nooooooo, yuckie doooos. :sick:
Surely you're plonker pulling? :shocked:
Blue wheels, blue car, Blue Velvet (Seen the film? Loved it). Look awful IMO. Will be unique, though. :rolleyes:
Bling it with silver BBS wheels like Exonian's or better still if you want to match wheels and car colour, go for a silver car with silver wheels again like Exonian's. :smiley:
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(http://media2.worldcarfans.com/2010/11/5/medium/8977728901875970504.jpg)
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Always loved that R with those wheels. It's on our non-Monza thread which you started.
I have to now ...... :wink: :grin: :lipsrsealed: :laugh: :evil: