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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: evo1986 on 28 April 2011, 11:27
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The engine and specification changes outlined below will come into effect from production week 22. Please inform customers of these changes.
Golf models
All models
- RNS 315/510 satellite navigation can now recognise full seven-digit postcodes. Click here for more sat-nav information
- RNS 315/510 now comes with map data loaded on its hard disk drive (HDD)
- RCD 210/310 Radio display changes from blue with black text to black with white text.
S, BlueMotion, Match, GT
- The symbols on the Climatic air-conditioning have changed from ‘Lo’ to ‘ACMax’ (see picture g below)
GTD, GTI, R
- New LED rear number plate lights as standard (see picture b below)
GTI
- Optional 19-inch Glendale alloy wheels are now available for a retail price of £995 (see picture c below)
GTD, GTI, R
- Drivers can now switch off the vehicle’s Electronic Stabilisation Programme (ESP) and Anti-Slip Regulation (ASR) systems for sportier driving, as standard. Click here for more detail
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More details (links above go to the info shown below)
New ESP-OFF for sporty driving
Designed to give the enthusiastic driver a choice in the level of automatic braking assistance on their car, from build week 22, a revised set-up of Volkswagen’s Electronic Stabilisation Programme (ESP) will be standard on Golf R, GTI and GTD models, and all Scirocco models.
This has been introduced by the Factory in response to feedback from owners who think Volkswagen’s current safety systems take the edge off driver enjoyment in, for example, track use or highly sporty driving.
In normal use, all braking assistance systems work as before, ensuring safety within the usual limits and it would be virtually impossible to deactivate the systems accidentally.
However, in the appropriate conditions, the driver is now able to select the level of braking intervention in stages.
At the first level, by pressing the ESP button, ASR (traction control) is switched off. By pushing and holding the button again (approx 3 secs), drivers can reach the second level which shows ‘ESP OFF’. In this mode, drivers can oversteer or understeer without ESP interference, allowing so-called drifting. In this mode, if the driver actively brakes in what the car detects to be on the limits of safety, ESP is automatically reactivated and supports the driver in keeping control of the car. Afterwards, the ESP is automatically deactivated again; it is reset and switched on each time the ignition is started. It should be noted that the ABS function remains unaffected by ESP-OFF.
For more information, see the following press articles which talk about the system in action.
- http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/263548/volkswagen_golf_r_dsg.html
- http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/255389/
This new feature is standard – and this should be a positive selling point to prospective buyers of high performance vehicles. However it should be stressed that it poses no diminution of active safety features when used in standard mode.
XDS – electronic differential lock
An electronic cross-axle traction control system for improved traction and handling. Technically speaking, XDS is a functional extension of the electronic limited slip differential (EDL) which is a part of the standard ESP system.
Its benefits are experienced when driving quickly through a bend. ESP sensors provide information on lateral G-forces, while ABS sensors monitor levels of friction. Using this information a control unit can predict when an inside wheel is about to lift and apply a braking force automatically to increase traction on the opposite front wheel. XDS differs from EDL, however, as it brakes the inner wheel before it loses traction rather than afterwards. The result is smoother, more sure-footed and safer progress with better traction through fast corners when on the limit of adhesion.
XDS also compensates for the understeer which is typical of front-wheel drive cars. Thanks to XDS, the GTI’s driving characteristics are significantly more precise and neutral, and this reduction in understeer delivers greater driving enjoyment.
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If someone wants to email me lee.evans@ir.inchcape.co.uk I will copy and paste pics of stuff for someone to upload.
Lee
Edited by Moderator to bring all the infomation into one post hope you don't mind Lee, Geoff. :smiley:
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Two things.
First , your called Lee Evans :D :D :D
Second, you mean you currently cant turn off your ESP? Eh ?
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The new Glendale 19inch optional wheel look basically ttrs wheels to me : )
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- RCD 210/310 Radio display changes from blue with black text to black with white text.
Now that's an improvement. The blue display looks aftermarket next to the white instrument lighting.
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Lee, You have email.
Geoff.
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Can XDS be retro-fitted?
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Interesting :smiley:
My GTD is scheduled to be built on week 22!! So I'm assuming I'll get these little features? The LED number plates sounds good, compliments the main LED tails nicely.
Are there engine changes?
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Can XDS be retro-fitted?
XDS is already standard on the GTI, AFAIK..
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Yes it is. And if i remember correct from my mk5 days there ESP could not be turned off completely either. So its now nice of VW to allow it to be done.
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Silly me. I was thinking of a mechanical LSD. :rolleyes:
Anyway, I would never want the ESP to be completely dis-engaged. :smile:
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Thank you This is very helpful. Will you be able to post the full details of any engine changes specific to the GTD. Is there any additional options added :cool:
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Thank you This is very helpful. Will you be able to post the full details of any engine changes specific to the GTD. Is there any additional options added :cool:
No, thats all the changes posted above. Its all in his posts.
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I doubt there will be many engine changes for some time, if at all.
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(http://media2.worldcarfans.com/2011/3/1/super/1667557061199165301.jpg)
I know its an R but the press release of that concept says 19" Glendale alloys finished in Brilliant Silver :wink:
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Dull and boring them :undecided:
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Dull and boring them :undecided:
+1 don't like them ( look like they would belong on on passat ) :sick:
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The TTRS has similar wheels
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b219/Moschops01/TT%20RS/P1020490.jpg)
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The TTRS has similar wheels
Not keen on those either if I'm honest
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Easily mistaken for RS6 reps at a quick glance.
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Those wheels look crap. Full stop. :lipsrsealed:
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Those wheels look crap. Full stop. :lipsrsealed:
Correct, and knock 10k off the asking price while your doing more cost savings vw :angry:
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Those wheels look crap. Full stop. :lipsrsealed:
Correct, and knock 10k off the asking price while your doing more cost savings vw :angry:
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What are they thinking? Looks a bit like a 1930s ceiling fan ...... but much, much worse. :sick:
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Easily mistaken for RS6 reps at a quick glance.
That was my first thought aswell.
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Correct, and knock 10k off the asking price while your doing more cost savings vw :angry:
Thats never going to happen when you can pay 15K for a fiesta. If you want cheap buy Korean. :wink:
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Can't see many peopl taking them as an option over the 18" Monza's can you?
A 19" version of the Monza would have been a better bet.
I'm really not sure what VW are on, or who they market survey for the items and trims they make available????
Dave
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Why fcuk araound with an icon is beyond me. :angry:
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Getting rid of some old Audi wheelsI think seen a few a3's with must be the same wheels on.........
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What I and I'm sure a few other people would like to know is,could the facility for fully disengaging the ESP be retro fitted to
existing GTi's ? - if they have just reprogrammed the on board ECU surely this is a possibility ? - if any VW tuners are reading this
maybe something to investigate ? - I would be a definite customer !
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Really? Unless you are doing a track day why would you ever want to fully take it off? Be a bit mad to do that on public roads imo. I it came on the car then great but I wouldnt be going out of my way to get something like that put on my car, let alone pay for it.
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Yup, new 'Black Edition' A3's have those wheels as standard now, maybe they ordered too many? haha
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Maybe the Monza's have Japanese fairy dust sprinkled on them that are now irradiated and banned :laugh:
I agree with am1w, why mess with the recipe when it is perfect as it is? :undecided:
The new wheels aren't designed for the GTI and as such should never be used as an OEM option. :smiley:
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Yup, new 'Black Edition' A3's have those wheels as standard now, maybe they ordered too many? haha
There 18s, there is not a 19 option.
If they are based on the wheel on the concept 'golf R' car i posted there different to the Audi ones in spoke design, size, width,......
As for the Monza debait,
Funny how mk5 people are complaining theres a different option now.. When the mk6 first came out they complained it had the same wheels on and the forums were awash with people twisting about it, thread after thread post after post.. Just cannot please some people sometimes lol.
Then Mk6 people kept twisting that there is not a non monza option. Just no pleasing people :grin:
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Yeah, but if the different option is sh!te, surely we can say that?
They should have added the GTI Adiddas Edition wheels as an option.
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Really? Unless you are doing a track day why would you ever want to fully take it off? Be a bit mad to do that on public roads imo. I it came on the car then great but I wouldnt be going out of my way to get something like that put on my car, let alone pay for it.
ESP is a life saver and I want mine on all the time whether I am on a public road or on a track.
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I agree, still be tempted to turn it off on a track though. Having said that my MK5 will never see a track.
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I agree, still be tempted to turn it off on a track though. Having said that my MK5 will never see a track.
And neither will my Mk6. Nutty thing to do IMO. :rolleyes:
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Retro alloys. Look like some after Market alloys I had on my MkIII Golf :(
Agree with the above. Audi styling too!
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My 17"s look better :grin:
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The adidas wheels would have been a nicer option to have on new GTI's. If they were available I think a few people would spec these instead of the monza's.
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The adidas wheels would have been a nicer option to have on new GTI's. If they were available I think a few people would spec these instead of the monza's.
The Monza Shadows still rule for me and always will. The Adidarse wheels are nice but somehow I cannot abide with those strange distorted spokes.
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Regarding the ESP issue,I think its each to their own,if you look at cars like the Megane 250 or Clio Cup,not what you would consider
in any way dangerous,but they are more shall we say "throttle adjustable" with their ESP systems switched off,than a GTi or Scirroco,which is probably why VW have responded.For those not into this kind of thing,you can continue to leave your ESP buttons
switched on,however with previous cars of mine,including a couple of Pumas,Focus ST170, and one of the last 205 GTi 1.9's,the opportunity to just get the back end to step out slightly before catching it with a bit of opposite lock on my favourite open 2nd/3rd gear corners with a polished surface by braking into the bend (especially with low surface temperatures)is not possible with the Golf as the ESP just cuts in and brakes individual wheels,even with it switched off,and thus spoiling the fun !!
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Your brave with a 205 1.9 The 1.4 XS/XT was fine doing that but the 1.9 was so stiff it just snapped and tried to kill you.
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Correct, and knock 10k off the asking price while your doing more cost savings vw :angry:
Thats never going to happen when you can pay 15K for a fiesta. If you want cheap buy Korean. :wink:
I have already :nerd:
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I personally wouldn't turn it off, I think it saved me and my GTD the other day. I came over a hill to find in the two wheel tracks (where the wheels run) two dead badgers all nicely plump and ready to cause chaos, to front bumper suspension, e.t.c. Managed to swerve so that one of them passed underneath. This was all at 70 on a dual carriageway in the dark. Fortunatly no one around i.e. could swerve to use the outer lane and no loss of control. The GTD actually felt well planted at that point. I have to say the heart was pounding. Thanks ESP.
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Golf GTI ordering restriction: 19-inch Glendale alloys
23 May 11
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Optional 19-inch Glendale alloys cannot be ordered in conjuction with a sunroof on Golf GTI because of a weight restriction on the model's front axle.
The brochure and price list will be updated at the next reprint. Volkswagen.co.uk will be updated by the end of May.
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Golf GTI ordering restriction: 19-inch Glendale alloys
23 May 11
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Optional 19-inch Glendale alloys cannot be ordered in conjuction with a sunroof on Golf GTI because of a weight restriction on the model's front axle.
The brochure and price list will be updated at the next reprint. Volkswagen.co.uk will be updated by the end of May.
How quaint! Knew the sunroof was a heavy useless fcuker. :evil: :grin:
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Golf GTI ordering restriction: 19-inch Glendale alloys
23 May 11
0682-11
Optional 19-inch Glendale alloys cannot be ordered in conjuction with a sunroof on Golf GTI because of a weight restriction on the model's front axle.
The brochure and price list will be updated at the next reprint. Volkswagen.co.uk will be updated by the end of May.
Does that mean that anyone with a sun roof who has fitted aftermarket 19" wheels is playing with fire?
Jim
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Does that mean that anyone with a sun roof who has fitted aftermarket 19" wheels is playing with fire?
Jim
Jim, start a new thread about this. It will go down a treat. :wink:
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There will also be a warning sticker on the dash if you spec Glendales: Don't give lifts to fat birds.......
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Golf GTI ordering restriction: 19-inch Glendale alloys
23 May 11
0682-11
Optional 19-inch Glendale alloys cannot be ordered in conjuction with a sunroof on Golf GTI because of a weight restriction on the model's front axle.
The brochure and price list will be updated at the next reprint. Volkswagen.co.uk will be updated by the end of May.
How quaint! Knew the sunroof was a heavy useless fcuker. :evil: :grin:
Not as much as your wheels :tongue:
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Golf GTI ordering restriction: 19-inch Glendale alloys
23 May 11
0682-11
Optional 19-inch Glendale alloys cannot be ordered in conjuction with a sunroof on Golf GTI because of a weight restriction on the model's front axle.
The brochure and price list will be updated at the next reprint. Volkswagen.co.uk will be updated by the end of May.
How quaint! Knew the sunroof was a heavy useless fcuker. :evil: :grin:
Not as much as your wheels :tongue:
You leave my wheels out of this young man or I'll have to take you in hand and spank you. :tongue:
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Thats miles better! Should've been that way from the beginning. :angry:
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(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x267/J400uk/rcd310-whiteblack.jpg)
Now it looks good too. Miles better sounding than the over-hyped RCD/RNS 510 thingys.
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This one will prob time out.
But if you goto www.volkswagen.de and then to konfigurator you can canfig your GTI with the 19" wheels.
(http://cc5.volkswagen.de/cc5/images/vehicle.ashx?rs=XXL0800&rt=Front&hash=1596533276&mi=images%2fde-4.0%2fmissing_big_stage_xlarge.gif)
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This one will prob time out.
But if you goto www.volkswagen.de and then to konfigurator you can canfig your GTI with the 19" wheels.
(http://cc5.volkswagen.de/cc5/images/vehicle.ashx?rs=XXL0800&rt=Front&hash=1596533276&mi=images%2fde-4.0%2fmissing_big_stage_xlarge.gif)
Why on earth would one want a 19" ride simply mystifies me. I had a ride in one with ACC on comfort and it was not to my liking on our 'glassy' surfaced roads. Bouncy and planted it did feel, but oh so bloody tiring. And then there was the increased tyre roar. Yuck. :sick:
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Will it matter am1w when you only do 3 miles a week 'around the block' to your nearest chipper! Get yourself up to some twisty B-roads in the Highlands of Scotland mun :grin: :grin:
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Mr Scotty, I am pleased that you are so informed about my driving habits.
Firstly, I am most fortunate not to live in the northern wilds where driving is more akin to paddling due to the persistent stormy weather during your summers and skiing in blizzards during your winters. I am sure your I9" wheels will go down a treat. You'll be able to ski on them right through the year with or without 4WD. How fortunate.
Secondly, it is a fact that the 'fastest' tyres on a performance Golf are 17" ones, as proved on the track by a couple of magazines. With these you might even be able to 'drive' in your inclement weather.
Thirdly, I don't do short journeys in my car. I prefer walking for purposes of fitness and keeping slim and agile much like a car with 17" or 18" wheels. You should try it though this might not always be possible in wild, rural conditions.
Lastly, I hope you enjoy your 19" as much as I enjoy my 18".
I see from the weather news that the northern wastes will, wait for it, have lots of rain. Do you possess a boat? :smiley:
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Lots of good country roads were i am and unlike others on here i can tell the difference between the 17s and 18s on these type roads. One of them really shows it up, a road Alfa UK use on there invertation to the owners clubs to sample the cars. I find the 18s can bump steer and also can send judders/shudders to the steeringwheel due to the tyre spending less time in contact with the road. But then again i live in England a part of England the goverment seem to think is part of Scotland :grin: So our roads are a mess, broken up, pothholes, odd cambers old tarmac, were as Scotlands roads are probably better.
Anyway this is way off topic.
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(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x267/J400uk/rcd310-whiteblack.jpg)
Now it looks good too. Miles better sounding than the over-hyped RCD/RNS 510 thingys.
RCD510 has the same sound. RNS does not :lipsrsealed:
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Now it looks good too. Miles better sounding than the over-hyped RCD/RNS 510 thingys.
RCD510 has the same sound. RNS does not :lipsrsealed:
Really? Have you compared both of them on CD?
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Had both.
Quite certain.
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Had both.
Quite certain.
I'll check my nephew's RCD510 tomorrow and report back, Sa! :grin:
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I changed my RCD310 to a RCD510 after a few months as the RCD310 looked so bad and didn't have the SD slot.
Sound is the same.
I've heard the RNS and it's certainly lacking in the oomph department,
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I changed my RCD310 to a RCD510 after a few months as the RCD310 looked so bad and didn't have the SD slot.
Sound is the same.
I've heard the RNS and it's certainly lacking in the oomph department,
You can say that again and again and again ...... ad infinitum ...... :smiley:
Basically, it sounds CRAP. :sick:
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They are both very different kettles of fish, the RCD310 & RCD510 are both made by Blaupunkt and the RNS510 is made by Continental, the RNS is certainly not bad, but its not as good as the RCD's.
The 310 and 510 are identical in sound, both use exact same components.
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I want the rear LED for my number plate, how do I go about getting one ?
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I want the rear LED for my number plate, how do I go about getting one ?
You order them from your friendly vw stealership 1k8 943 021 b
Here's the diy for install...you need to swop the two wire pins around
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/411061.aspx
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The pin swap isn't required on the MK6 AFAIK.
However you will get bulb out warnings so you need someone with VCDS to code that out.
Your BCM needs to have a software version of 575 or higher as well.
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The pin swap isn't required on the MK6 AFAIK.
However you will get bulb out warnings so you need someone with VCDS to code that out.
Your BCM needs to have a software version of 575 or higher as well.
So if I code for rear LEDS will it fix this bulb out aswell? My GTI is MY2011
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I think BIT 6 in BYTE 23 in the BCM needs to be unchecked to stop the bulb out warnings.
I haven't tried this myself though, just found it when looking through the controller Bytes.
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/misc/numberPlateLed.jpg)
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Looks like a plausable solution, thanks
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thanks guys.
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Has anyone got a price for the LED number plate lights yet?
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Has anyone got a price for the LED number plate lights yet?
Hello, No.
Are you going to start a Official Steel Grey Colour thtread?
This should jimble a mod. :evil: :grin:
All in the name of summer frolics. :wink:
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I might do, could do with some better pics tbh, most of the ones i have are pretty poor really! I seem to be compiling a list of mods for when the honeymoons over! :evil:
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I might do, could do with some better pics tbh, most of the ones i have are pretty poor really! I seem to be compiling a list of mods for when the honeymoons over! :evil:
Stop fishing. :grin:
Your pictures are superb IMO and much better than my Blackberry ones.
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Has anyone got a price for the LED number plate lights yet?
They are about £22 each :shocked:
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As above IIRC there ~£50 the pair.
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As above IIRC there ~£50 the pair.
Quite expensive but not as bad as i thought. :wink:
Thanks gents.
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£49 the pair. :smiley:
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Wolfgang's rear has had too much attention in the past. The poor boy is still recovering. No LEDs for him to attract unsavory attention. Imagine what could happen ..........
I'll spend money on his insides so he can sing like a lark and bring me joy. :smiley:
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Has anyone got a price for the LED number plate lights yet?
This is what they look like on a MK5...
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=194966.0
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Cheers David, how do these connect on the mk6? The cable in the car has the bulb carrier on the end so do you have to cut that off?
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Cheers David, how do these connect on the mk6? The cable in the car has the bulb carrier on the end so do you have to cut that off?
Not sure what you meen :undecided:
Heres how mine are on the mk6
PIC1: Unclip from mounting.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/Forum%20photos/DSC01369.jpg)
PIC2: Un-Plug the light unit leaving the plug+harness on the car.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/Forum%20photos/DSC01370.jpg)
PIC3: Old bulb unit unplugged from the car.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/Forum%20photos/DSC01371.jpg)
Then just plug the new full LED unit into the plug on the car. shown in pic 2
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Ah, nice one snoopy! I didn't realise the bulb carrier plugged on to the cable :embarassed: when i swapped the standard bulbs for blue vision bulbs (not worth it btw) i just took the carrier out of the housing. Might get these when i get the tail lights as they need coding too don't they?
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Cheers David, how do these connect on the mk6? The cable in the car has the bulb carrier on the end so do you have to cut that off?
It's simple plug and play as described on the post in the MK5 section, the new LED unit just plugs into the existing connector and is an exact fit for
the hole in the bumper.
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Cheers David, how do these connect on the mk6? The cable in the car has the bulb carrier on the end so do you have to cut that off?
It's simple plug and play as described on the post in the MK5 section, the new LED unit just plugs into the existing connector and is an exact fit for
the hole in the bumper.
Whilst it's plug and play does it have to be coded through VCDS?
Jim
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Some say yes. Some say no.
So not sure.
If it does it will just ping up a bulb out warning on the dash.
If it does need coding then what was shown on the other page is probably what needs changing.
What i would like to see is someone go throught a new GTI with the LED number plate lights fitted using VCDS and show the screens to see what options come up and are ticked or unticked.
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Whilst it's plug and play does it have to be coded through VCDS?
Jim
Mmm, sorry can't help regarding the MK6 (unless you want to swap cars) there are no visible bulb-out warnings on the MK5.
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I'm liking that.
How long before they start to turn up on ebay? Hmmmmm
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anyone fancy starting a power buy for the LED's ?