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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Neo Badness on 21 April 2011, 11:05
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I have seen people running ABF's on Kjet, just wondered if you can, and if so what benefit, you would get from running a KR on Digi 3?
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Someone was running k-jet on a abf and got 153bhp on the rollers. Don't know if they were using kr head though.
I thought about digi 3 on my kr. In theory should be a little bit better as the fueling is worked out better.
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If fitting an ABF then run factory managment.
No benefit in running K jet if anything it is a backward step.
Simples :smiley:
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closest you cvan get to this oem is the SEAT ADL lump, uses a dumbed down version of the abf management. the trouble is kr has no crank sensor so you would need to add one, either with custom mounted trigger wheel on the crank pulley or using oem polo crank seal with crank sensor at the gearbox end.
all a bit of a pain in the arse really when you could just drop the whole engine in!
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closest you cvan get to this oem is the SEAT ADL lump, uses a dumbed down version of the abf management. the trouble is kr has no crank sensor so you would need to add one, either with custom mounted trigger wheel on the crank pulley or using oem polo crank seal with crank sensor at the gearbox end.
all a bit of a pain in the arse really when you could just drop the whole engine in!
This was pretty much my thinking that it would most likely work out simpler to fit the whole ABF, but was just wondering what the problem with fitting electronic injection to the KR would be. Idea being retaining the 1800cc and not having to declare an increase in capacity to the insurance but getting better peformance and economy from an EFi system. As said was just hypothetical.
Next question, what's the deal with insurance after an engine swap?
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if you can find an adl ecu + loom its dead simple, but they are pretty hard to find. im with hic they base the insurance from the car it came from, so try to find something boring like an alhambra to get your abf from ;)
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if you can find an adl ecu + loom its dead simple, but they are pretty hard to find. im with hic they base the insurance from the car it came from, so try to find something boring like an alhambra to get your abf from ;)
Genius!
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if you can find an adl ecu + loom its dead simple, but they are pretty hard to find. im with hic they base the insurance from the car it came from, so try to find something boring like an alhambra to get your abf from ;)
Interesting regarding the adl ecu idea. Did speak to my insurance company and they said they would take it from the, as you pointed out, donor car. I have an ABF from my mk3 Golf, which is Grp 16 as apposed to the mk2 which is Grp15 :undecided:
How would they check what vehicle the engine came from? Engine number? What if you just bought the engine from a private sale with no doc's or from a scrappy? I know they a cracking down on it (read more awkward for law abiding people) in that if you don't have a V5 and regestration it makes life v difficult when you come to insure it.
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in that case tell them its from a low insurance abf engine'd car :wink:
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Yer find the slowest abf engined car as possible, mine 9A was from a passat and is less bhp that a kr in tock form! 136 compared to 139bhp :laugh: So should mine be cheaper.
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what really buggers up the insurace company is when you find an industrial engine :smiley: q) what did the engine you fitted come out of ? a) erm a forklift truck :grin:
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what really buggers up the insurace company is when you find an industrial engine :smiley: q) what did the engine you fitted come out of ? a) erm a forklift truck :grin:
Yup that'd be good, or military. What did your engine come out of? MiG 21, Red army surplus :smiley:
Ok so what is the slowest/ lowest insurance bracket ABf'd car? A SEAT I would assume. Toledo? Alhambra, did they have ABf's?
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alhambra i guess..
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The Alhambra never got the ABF, older Toledo or Ibiza.
Insurance bracket will or should make little difference, a good engineers report stating the standard of conversion etc will help more.
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a good engineers report stating the standard of conversion etc will help more.
FWIW in all the engine conversions I've done no insurance company has ever asked for an engineer's report.
Find the low insurance group car with the motor (not sure there is one for the ABF) and quote it when discussing the conversion with your insurer.
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good job insurance companys don't ask for engineers reports TBH.
number of conversions that i've lifted the bonne on and thought OMFG you actualy payed for that, or left me wondering how it's not managed to fall out
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I just waiting for my box of 6in nails to be delivered before I start work on my engine conversion :smiley:
I'll try HIC or some such and give myself plenty of time to shop around before I commit to an insurance company. After conversion.
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SEAT:
96-99 cordoba
96-99 ibiza
94-99 toledo
VW:
Golf 92-97
Passat 94-96
looks like it'll be the passat for the most boring car to base it from. whether it'll make a difference or not is another story!
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so try to find something boring like an alhambra to get your abf from.
Go on, admit you were wrong.
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yep i was wrong, easy eh? you should try it some time
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He states something similar or 'like' an Alhambra would be a ABF source if we are getting childish DH.
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Caister u should be takin notes for bcd. :p