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Title: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Gal on 16 March 2011, 20:01
Getting a 1.3 that will I know be dog slow, but I don't want insurance costs for a GTI or tax for that matter. Would it be worth sticking in the GT MPI engine out of the mk3 Polo and then maybe making that 1.4 at a later date or even the 16v 1.4?
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Sam on 16 March 2011, 20:06
Why dont you just get a driver and make it look like a gti?  :grin:
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Gal on 16 March 2011, 20:13
Dont want it to look like a GTI
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Sam on 16 March 2011, 20:20
Ah ok sorry was reading it backwards. I would say possibly bore the 1.3 to a 1.4, give her a good tune up and slap on some high lift cams. You will have a nippy little whip then
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Wayne on 16 March 2011, 20:35
Don't think the gains would make it worthwhile tbh.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Gal on 16 March 2011, 20:57
But I might be able to get the engine and ancillaries free  :wink:
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Wayne on 16 March 2011, 21:07
But I might be able to get the engine and ancillaries free  :wink:

Yes but all that work for what 10bhp (ish) plus your insurance will still go up.
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: wurth on 16 March 2011, 21:08
If you want your mk2 1.3 to be faster, best bet, is'nt to buy a polo GT engine, but to buy a writen off/scrapped mk3 GTI, then swap it all over, and sell the shell of the mk3 to a scrappy for £100.

I have a mk2 1.3. But I didnt do this, I just built a nicely spec'd driver engine, plonked it in, sorted my sus/brakes/chassis, then went racing   :laugh: :laugh:

As fast  as an 8vgti ;)
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Gal on 16 March 2011, 21:29
A mk3? Im selling my 1.8. I hate mk3 and everything about them lol
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Wayne on 16 March 2011, 23:27
A mk3? Im selling my 1.8. I hate mk3 and everything about them lol

A 1.8 is not the greatest, a 16v or VR might change your viewpoint.
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: lewis1641 on 17 March 2011, 08:53
Have you checked what the insurance costs would be with the polo gt engine? I bet they'll have your pants down.any excuse
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Gal on 17 March 2011, 09:48
Had a polo gt when I came off a ban 3 years ago. wasn't much as was on classic insurance
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 17 March 2011, 09:57
I fail to see the point in this. The base car is slow and the donor engine is slow - Why bother?
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Gal on 17 March 2011, 10:11
more reliable than a crappy carbed 1.3 thats why

I did also say I may put in the 16v 1.4

I'm no spring chicken so insurance isnt dear but I don't want the petrol costs or tax costs of a larger engine
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Wayne on 17 March 2011, 10:45
I'm no spring chicken so insurance isnt dear but I don't want the petrol costs or tax costs of a larger engine

Larger engines don't always = more fuel costs as they tend to be working less hard so can in some cases be better on fuel
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: dubber36 on 17 March 2011, 10:57
more reliable than a crappy carbed 1.3 thats why

I did also say I may put in the 16v 1.4

I'm no spring chicken so insurance isnt dear but I don't want the petrol costs or tax costs of a larger engine

The cost and time and effort involved in doing the swap, for lets face it, very little gain, would pay for a lot of fuel to run a more powerfull engined car.
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: wurth on 17 March 2011, 14:39
A mk3? Im selling my 1.8. I hate mk3 and everything about them lol

Read again what I wrote. Swap everything from the mk3 GTI to the mk2 1.3. the gains would be very impressive, fair enough, you dont like it, but not only does it have good reliable power, 8 or 16, but it weights about 300-400 KG more than the mk2 1.3 !!!!

If you just buy an engine you will be back and forth to the scrappy  for ever, as the 1.3 has not just a differnt engine, but differnt gearbox, driveshafts, gear linkage, engine mounts, radiator, list goes on and on.

And , excuse me if im wrong, but as mentioned before, the gains of replacing your 1.3 (mine was extremmly reliable) to a FI 1.4 gt polo engine,  will be 25hp !!!!!

You gain more buy removing all seats, spare wheel, sunroof, headliner, door cards, rear wiper, etc etc  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: leigh_harty on 17 March 2011, 17:08
more reliable than a crappy carbed 1.3 thats why

Their still going strong 20years on so cant be too bad, nothing to go wrong on em'
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: UKjarvis on 17 March 2011, 17:13
You gain more buy removing all seats, spare wheel, sunroof, headliner, door cards, rear wiper, etc etc    :grin:


LOL
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Gal on 17 March 2011, 20:58
You gain more buy removing all seats, spare wheel, sunroof, headliner, door cards, rear wiper, etc etc    :grin:


LOL

Not 25 BHP!

I need all that for 2 kids!

I won't be buying a GT engine..I'm getting a FREE donor car
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Gal on 17 March 2011, 20:59
Mind you..people going on about not much better BHP

What about the Mk3 that had an aircooled beetle engine fitted? Type2detectives one
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Wayne on 17 March 2011, 21:12
Even if it is free still not worth all the work in fitting it.
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Martz on 17 March 2011, 21:20
Leave it as it and make it tidy, just wasting time and money IMO.

Not all about speed you know....................
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 18 March 2011, 15:09
Mind you..people going on about not much better BHP

What about the Mk3 that had an aircooled beetle engine fitted? Type2detectives one

Some people are so stupid there is nothing that can be done for them.

What do you actually want?

An injected unit of whatever size should give better economy than a carb unit, for the simple reason that it is capable of staying more in-tune and economical than a carb-unit.

The 1.4 16V is an interesting proposition as it'll probably be lighter than a 1.8 8V and should be nice and revvy.

Can't say I can get terribly excited about this sort of thing, mind.  Lacks capacity.
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Gal on 18 March 2011, 15:18
Mind you..people going on about not much better BHP

What about the Mk3 that had an aircooled beetle engine fitted? Type2detectives one

Some people are so stupid there is nothing that can be done for them.

What do you actually want?

An injected unit of whatever size should give better economy than a carb unit, for the simple reason that it is capable of staying more in-tune and economical than a carb-unit.

The 1.4 16V is an interesting proposition as it'll probably be lighter than a 1.8 8V and should be nice and revvy.

Can't say I can get terribly excited about this sort of thing, mind.  Lacks capacity.
The aircooled mk3 was done as a show car.
I have seen a mazda engine fitted in the front of an air cooled beetle ( pile of 5hite )
Thats the thing. Why do what all the other sheep are doing? Do something different and mad
Now if petrol was back below £1 I would just whack in a V6 or 1.8T
But being skint and 2 kids mums to feed (ok maintenance) I have to look at fuel economy, but with a little bit of poke.
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: dubber36 on 18 March 2011, 15:34
I have to look at fuel economy, but with a little bit of poke.

Why has no one mentioned the "D" word?
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: emery1990 on 18 March 2011, 16:05
If you want to do it mate do it. It will not effect anyone whatsoever on the forum lol
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: mwep201081 on 18 March 2011, 18:54
Getting a 1.3 that will I know be dog slow,  Would it be worth sticking in the GT MPI engine out of the mk3 Polo

nope......just get a Mk3 polo. more economical, cheaper insurance and same tax....

The only argument for it would be if running costs didn't matter.....then you can get into all sorts of tuning opportunities.....
Title: Re: Is it worth putting a Polo Mk3 Gt engine in mk2?
Post by: Wayne on 18 March 2011, 20:28
But being skint and 2 kids mums to feed (ok maintenance) I have to look at fuel economy, but with a little bit of poke.

With respect a 1.3 Polo GT engine is not that quick in Polo let alone when it has a Golf to drag around.