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Title: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 14 February 2011, 15:23
I've just had a bit of an a-road blat behind a '10 plate Focus ST.  I was massively impressed.

My car is a standard 16v ABF engine that has been regularly maintained with 107,500 miles on the clock.

The ST was pulling away from me on the straights on acceleration, but once it got to 55mph it stopped pulling away and I made up the gap on the corners, with the Golf out-cornering the ST.

The ST wasn't holding back either.  Massively impressed!!!
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: Wayne on 14 February 2011, 15:26
 :lipsrsealed: what if the Focus owner was not bothered or trying.
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: Khare on 14 February 2011, 15:57
:lipsrsealed: what if the Focus owner was not bothered or trying.


Agreed  :lipsrsealed:

The ST is a better car all round.
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 14 February 2011, 16:02
I did consider that, but he was giving it some.  You could tell by the way he was late braking, accelerating hard and such, and the speeds he was going into the corners.

A better driver would have been able to go faster, but the same could be said about me and my car.  Was mighty fun though.


I'm not saying that my Golf is a better car than the Focus, just on this particular occasion I kept up



modified for spelling mistakes.
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: Jimp on 14 February 2011, 16:13
Was it orange? I doubt it was. Orange ones are faster than mk2s so it would deffo be faster than a mk3. :lipsrsealed:

 :grin:
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 14 February 2011, 16:14
I'd heard that green cars were the fastest. Haha  :rolleyes:
Title: De archin
Post by: gover87 on 14 February 2011, 16:30
Oh, i was just abowt to spray my car orange so i could beat the subaru down my street. Can sum1 confirm which colour is best for bhp gains lol :-)
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: dom on 14 February 2011, 16:31
:lipsrsealed: what if the Focus owner was not bothered or trying.


Agreed  :lipsrsealed:

The ST is a better car all round.

You must have been a much better driver if you could keep up with him in a slower car :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 14 February 2011, 16:33
Way to rain on my parade! Haha
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: dom on 14 February 2011, 17:17
Way to rain on my parade! Haha

Hang on i'll edit!
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: F17BAD on 14 February 2011, 17:55
Was it orange? I doubt it was. Orange ones are faster than mk2s so it would deffo be faster than a mk3. :lipsrsealed:

 :grin:

you got it wrong, according to some members on this site mk2 8v are faster than orange ones  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 14 February 2011, 18:12
Way to rain on my parade! Haha

Hang on i'll edit!

Hahahaha, you know just what to say, it is valentines after all  :kiss:  :grin: :grin: :grin:


Was it orange? I doubt it was. Orange ones are faster than mk2s so it would deffo be faster than a mk3. :lipsrsealed:

 :grin:

you got it wrong, according to some members on this site mk2 8v are faster than orange ones  :grin: :grin:

To be honest, I've got stickers in one of the windows, so that probably helped.
Title: Re: De archin
Post by: HeavySmoker on 14 February 2011, 19:17
Oh, i was just abowt to spray my car orange so i could beat the subaru down my street. Can sum1 confirm which colour is best for bhp gains lol :-)

rust
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: harlemex on 14 February 2011, 20:47
I had a race with a focus st driver and one hands down. It was an egg and spoon race.  :drool:
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 14 February 2011, 21:11
I reckon the majority of our mk3's would beat a Focus ST tbh....







....beat it to the rusty haven in the sky that is! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: Wayne on 14 February 2011, 21:27
Some figures that will / may help.  :smiley:

Golf GTI 16V  
Weight: 1160                                
Power: 150
Torque: 133lbs ft
Top Speed: 133
0-60: 8.1
Mpg: 26.6


Focus ST2 3dr
Weight:1317 kg
Power: 221 bhp
Torque: 236lbs ft
Top Speed: 152 mph
0-60: 6.6
Mpg: 29.8
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: F17BAD on 14 February 2011, 21:41
in other words - dont bother to waste your fuel unless you are rocking either a charged VR or a 20vt  lump under the hood  :grin:
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: dom on 14 February 2011, 22:23
Power to weight puts it all in favour of the ST:

Mk3 16v = 130bhp/tonne

ST = 168bhp/tonne

That combined with the extra 103 torques of the ST, doesn't look like any competition tbh.....
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: F17BAD on 14 February 2011, 22:30
im very fond of Fords, and the ST is a good all rounder, they are real good once mapped
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: Bellend on 14 February 2011, 22:58
Put down the PS3.
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: tdi_blu on 14 February 2011, 23:11
I raced a ST last year in my old 16v he was in a black one with a stupid stripe going through it he decided to blast past me so I thought I would follow and follow I did.He didnt leave me for dead infact in the end he actually slowed down and wouldnt go again due to the fact he was pissed of that my £1000 Golf wasnt to far behind him.Its ok posting figures up but figures arent the bible there a guide and with some Golfs ive owned over the years some are quicker than others weather its because they have been abused and thrased to sh1t I dont know but thats my view anyhow.
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: Wayne on 14 February 2011, 23:27
im very fond of Fords, and the ST is a good all rounder, they are real good once mapped

I still prefer older hot Ford's or Cosworth's.
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: shepgti on 15 February 2011, 02:19
the real truth behind all these mk2/3 'ive beaten' threads is that the golfs are cheap sheds compared to the cars they are 'racing' so why would the owner want to risk damaging their car for the sake of punishing someone who cant afford a nice car..

give someone a free st for the day and they will piss all over mk2/3's :grin:
Title: Re: Really impressed with performance.
Post by: Ess_Three on 15 February 2011, 08:49
the real truth behind all these mk2/3 'ive beaten' threads is that the golfs are cheap sheds compared to the cars they are 'racing' so why would the owner want to risk damaging their car for the sake of punishing someone who cant afford a nice car..

give someone a free st for the day and they will piss all over mk2/3's :grin:

People forget how cars have evolved, chassis improved, braking improved, safety systems involved.

In the right road, my Mk3 will easily stick with my Mk6...but in the Mk3 you are driving 90% or more, caning the arse off it on the limit of grip and traction...in the Mk6 you are cruising along in comfort, at around 40% effort, stereo on, ESP on, no traction issues...no drama, no fuss.

You take the Mk6 up to 90% and the Mk6 wouldn't see which way it went...the chassis is so much better.