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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: rob.043 on 10 February 2011, 09:24

Title: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: rob.043 on 10 February 2011, 09:24
Wee problem to sort on a friends car, its a GL with hazard switch on the dash.

All the dash lights work with the light switch pressed in one notch (side lights on) but go out when its pushed in the second notch (headlights on).

Is it likely this is just a faulty switch?
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 10 February 2011, 09:32
Wee problem to sort on a friends car, its a GL with hazard switch on the dash.

All the dash lights work with the light switch pressed in one notch (side lights on) but go out when its pushed in the second notch (headlights on).

Is it likely this is just a faulty switch?

My mk1 did similar, turned out the switch was faulty.  Have you tried fiddling with the fader for the dash lights as these are normally the first thing to start going, if they flicker when you move the dial then it's a bit tired,  but can be cleaned up without too much hassle or replaced from various other dubs of a similar year...
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: rob.043 on 10 February 2011, 09:41
The fader seems ok, with a good contact from the connector legs.  I had thought it would be the switch as the dash light are bright then just go out on moving the switch from position 1 to 2 (sidelights to main).

Switches dont seem to be too much, so we'll probably just get one...
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: rubjonny on 10 February 2011, 10:02
it could be either the headlight switch or the flasher switch in the stalk, can you flash the main beams with it?
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: rob.043 on 10 February 2011, 11:16
Yes, main beam will flash and stay on with the stalk.

its an 11 pin switch, will any 11 pin replacement be the same?
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: rubjonny on 10 February 2011, 11:47
oops ignore me i thought you meant headlights go out.

yep any 11pin switch will be a direct swap :)
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: rob.043 on 10 February 2011, 12:43
Aye, its just the dash lights....  Thanks for the info RJ, i'll get to ebay for a replcement.
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: X4MGS on 10 February 2011, 16:35
I've got a couple if interested - one came off my car as I have just replaced all my dash switches with new ones!!
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: rob.043 on 10 February 2011, 16:49
Thanks for the offer, just got a second hand one from the bay
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: X4MGS on 10 February 2011, 17:16
Thanks for the offer, just got a second hand one from the bay

Kool
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: Alec on 10 February 2011, 19:18
I've got a couple if interested - one came off my car as I have just replaced all my dash switches with new ones!!

I had a look at your ebay shop last night, I love that scale model mk2  :cool:

Do you have any rear GolfGTI badges in good condition come your way often? Couldn't see any on your shop
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: mk2bal on 11 February 2011, 14:42
If its the headlight switch your talkin about they're not all the same.. Using the wrong 1 may liven up an earth and burn that section of wiring out,plus more if you don't remove the battery quick enough. Check part numbers and pin locations on the plug and switch before you try it
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: X4MGS on 12 February 2011, 12:48
If its the headlight switch your talkin about they're not all the same.. Using the wrong 1 may liven up an earth and burn that section of wiring out,plus more if you don't remove the battery quick enough. Check part numbers and pin locations on the plug and switch before you try it

Thats why he asked for an 11 pin one...

Yes you are correct other than most of them have the same part number it's the suffix (Last) Letter thats important... the 11 pin for dim dip cars has the letter M at the end!
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: X4MGS on 12 February 2011, 12:55
I've got a couple if interested - one came off my car as I have just replaced all my dash switches with new ones!!

I had a look at your ebay shop last night, I love that scale model mk2  :cool:

Do you have any rear GolfGTI badges in good condition come your way often? Couldn't see any on your shop

I've had a few before Xmas but they have all sold - There aren't many "GOOD" ones knocking about at the mo...

The OttO Mobile model is just a stunning item, I have quite a few in my own collection, inc a Red G60... I would have kept one of the ED1's but I'm not that keen on the colour...
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: mk2bal on 12 February 2011, 17:13
Oh right-cant say I've looked at the pins, I presumed they were the same amount and layout, just that the wires on the pins were different orientation. I just remember a mate pinchin my late switch for his early, saing it fitted, but it set fire to his car! Vw shouldve keyed them different or changed the pin layout altogether to stop them interchanging..
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: X4MGS on 12 February 2011, 17:36
Oh right-cant say I've looked at the pins, I presumed they were the same amount and layout, just that the wires on the pins were different orientation. I just remember a mate pinchin my late switch for his early, saing it fitted, but it set fire to his car! Vw shouldve keyed them different or changed the pin layout altogether to stop them interchanging..

I think on the later ones they have, I ordered a brand new switch and it didn't fit as there is an L shaped locating pin that was reversed to the M version I should have ordered...
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: mk2bal on 13 February 2011, 11:42
I suppose there must be a few differnt types then, think rj said hed seen at least 3 different types before..not good. The vw breakers I got my abf from said his mate lost his car to the wrong switch. My mates had no interior, and the bonnet was up with loose batt terminals so it was off in seconds..
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: rubjonny on 14 February 2011, 11:27
as long as pin numbers the same its the right one, the other 11pin one mentioned above isnt really fitted to euro models. the other ones you find are earlier euro models which are 8 and/or 9 pin. if its same pins and it plugs in, you're laughing.

stupidly the earlier/late switches will still plug into early/late plugs, but your loom catches fire
Title: Re: Dash lights going out with headlights on- faulty switch?
Post by: rob.043 on 14 February 2011, 12:22
All these mentions of burning golfs had me worried!

Replacement switch ive got is 11 pin, part number (same as what its replacing) 191451531M

So i'll put the extinguisher away!