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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: clivusdel on 09 January 2011, 21:07
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when the mk3 golf gti came out, people moaned that it was slower than the mk2 8v.
would it be to any advantage to fit a mk2 1.8 8v gti engine into a mk3?
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What's wrong with the 16V? :huh:
Wasn't the engines that slowed them down. Infact I'd be willing to bet a 1.8 MK2 engine would be FAR slower in a MK3.
The MK3 was a fat c*nt basically.
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Mk3 was a faster engine, slowed down by the added weight of the vehicle.
More powerful anyway.
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i agree, as i have one
but in the days of the mk2, nobody wanted to change to a mk3
i guess the addition of the CAT wasnt much help either
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What's wrong with the 16V? :huh:
Wasn't the engines that slowed them down. Infact I'd be willing to bet a 1.8 MK2 engine would be FAR slower in a MK3.
The MK3 was a fat c*nt basically.
your a bit silly really and listen to idiots too much
mine actually basically has a mk2 engine in it (2E code) its the mk 4 that was alot fatter lol, iv had mk 2, 3 and 4 golfs, and i didnt find the mk2 8v much different in speed to the mk 3 8v
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Likewise, ive also owned a variety of mk2's & mk3's and agree there wasn't that much difference between them, especially the PB engined mk2 & the AGG engined mk3 GTI's.
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The mk3 ate all the pies. Then ate the pie shop and became the mk4.
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the mk4 2.0 8v is a different story though.
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when the mk3 golf gti came out, people moaned that it was slower than the mk2 8v.
would it be to any advantage to fit a mk2 1.8 8v gti engine into a mk3?
Nope none at all, why would switching from a 2.0 to a 1.8 make a car quicker, loose 100kg's from the car instead.
mine actually basically has a mk2 engine in it (2E code) its the mk 4 that was alot fatter lol, iv had mk 2, 3 and 4 golfs, and i didnt find the mk2 8v much different in speed to the mk 3 8v
2E was never fitted to a mk2, Corrado and Passat
the mk4 2.0 8v is a different story though.
Yep but it was only sold as a GTI in the uk, everywhere else itwas badged as a highline.
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2E was never fitted to a mk2, Corrado and Passat
LOL
where did i say it was ??
stop posting stupid stuff, ask anybody who actually knows, and they will tell you the 2E is basically the same as what was in the MK2, not the same code granted, but i never said it was :rolleyes:
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2E was never fitted to a mk2, Corrado and Passat
LOL
where did i say it was ??
stop posting stupid stuff, ask anybody who actually knows, and they will tell you the 2E is basically the same as what was in the MK2, not the same code granted, but i never said it was :rolleyes:
2e is a 2.0 but I guess in one respect it was close to a PB but still needs mods to fit a mk2.
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yeah mate correct, obvioulsy diff bottom end, rest is about the same, the later mk3 8v's that suffer all the sensor probs, early MK3's are the best of the bunch IMO.. most reliable
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yeah mate correct, obvioulsy diff bottom end, rest is about the same, the later mk3 8v's that suffer all the sensor probs, early MK3's are the best of the bunch IMO.. most reliable
Yep 2e is a much better lump than the later ones, early ones were also a lot simpler as you say with the siemens setup.
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absolutly on point mate, spot on reply (Bosch ECU early / Siemens is Late)
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early MK3's are the best of the bunch IMO.. most reliable
Reliable, maybe. Rusty, f**k yeah.
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early MK3's are the best of the bunch IMO.. most reliable
Rusty, f**k yeah.
not mine pal, :kiss:
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What year is it?
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2E was never fitted to a mk2, Corrado and Passat
LOL
where did i say it was ??
stop posting stupid stuff, ask anybody who actually knows, and they will tell you the 2E is basically the same as what was in the MK2, not the same code granted, but i never said it was :rolleyes:
The 4 cylinder engines didn't actually change that much from the late seventies, obviously fuel delivery changed.
Why is Wayne posting stupid stuff?
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mine is a August 1993, so one of the early ones with the wax looking rust proofing all other the place and not the sh!tty Galvernised crap with ZERO of the wax protection
(when i say wax, it looks like candle wax, MK 2's have it, its all in the inner doors, under the hood in all the corners etc etc)
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The 4 cylinder engines didn't actually change that much from the late seventies, obviously fuel delivery changed.
Why is Wayne posting stupid stuff?
sorry but that dont even deserve a reply explaining....
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mine is a August 1993, so one of the early ones with the wax looking rust proofing all other the place and not the sh!tty Galvernised crap with ZERO of the wax protection
The problem was the quality of the steel used. The mk3 golf wasn't the only car that suffered issues.
sorry but that dont even deserve a reply explaining...
I think it does. Why do you think its ok to be so f.ucking rude?
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The problem was the quality of the steel used. The mk3 golf wasn't the only car that suffered issues.
Yup, check out a lot of 93, 94, and 95 VAG cars and you'll be suprised. :cry:
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Why do you think its ok to be so f.ucking rude?
The same reason you think its ok to back up wayne everytime someone questions his reply...He is a 35 year old man.. please stop it
and as for the engine, so your saying all engines are the same then yeah ?? come on stop it, now your posting stupid stuff just to have a go coz i didnt agree with wayne
the early mk 3 engines are very similar apart from bottom end to the mk 2. the later mk 3 8v had all them daft sensors etc which are un reliable, im not expert but their is folk on here that will say the same...
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What's wrong with the 16V? :huh:
Wasn't the engines that slowed them down. Infact I'd be willing to bet a 1.8 MK2 engine would be FAR slower in a MK3.
The MK3 was a fat c*nt basically.
your a bit silly really and listen to idiots too much
mine actually basically has a mk2 engine in it (2E code) its the mk 4 that was alot fatter lol, iv had mk 2, 3 and 4 golfs, and i didnt find the mk2 8v much different in speed to the mk 3 8v
Fair enough. Figures say the MK2 is quicker but I'll admit I've never driven an early MK3 8v or a later MK2 8v.
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The same reason you think its ok to back up wayne everytime someone questions his reply...He is a 35 year old man.. please stop it
Don't back out. Answer the question. You are a very rude man, WHY?
and as for the engine, so your saying all engines are the same then yeah ?? come on stop it, now your posting stupid stuff just to have a go coz i didnt agree with wayne
Mechanically 4 cylinder engines are very similar since the late seventies. As i said fuel delivery has evolved considerably, which includes lots of sensors.
Why is that stupid?
I generally agree with Wayne, he does have considerable experience with VAG cars.
I simply commented because yet again you are being flippant and extremely rude.
GROW UP :smiley:
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The problem was the quality of the steel used. The mk3 golf wasn't the only car that suffered issues.
Yup, check out a lot of 93, 94, and 95 VAG cars and you'll be suprised. :cry:
Polo's were also very poor quality.
Try and find one now without any rust :sick:
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The same reason you think its ok to back up wayne everytime someone questions his reply...He is a 35 year old man.. please stop it
Don't back out. Answer the question. You are a very rude man, WHY?
why have i backed out ? i anwersed your question, now your just trying to stir up sh!t, so for that reason, i think its you who needs to grow up,
and when do you ever not agree with wayne - thats my point.
what is his exp ? not been funny and i appologise if im wrong but didnt he just paint blocks at TSR, not saying he does not know stuff but what i say re these 2 engines is correct and if you dont like that then sorry but its tough titties :kiss:
and my definition of rude is not somebody having a opinion on a public forum :wink:
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My 95 GTI 8v (ADY) has been more reliable than any of my Mk2's and has done 155k.
Shame its rusty as hell underneath, saying that ive seen some proper rusty Mk2's 10 years back.
Overall i think its a better than the Mk2 if a little numb.
For whatever the reason 92/93 models seem to last better on the bodywork.
Ive never had a gearbox issue either, and thats meant to be a weak point.
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From what I know, galvanized steel was thinner than the steel used in mk2 and early mk3 shells. It was thinner because it had more protection, but I think that the practice of galvanization wasn't perfected until the late 90s, hence why early 90s cars (thick tough steel) and later 90s (improved galvanization) are better than mid 90s cars.
As for the engines, as far as I can see then 2E is a a PB engine with a 2l bottom end.
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My 92 was mint with rust. Had none at all. 96 had one wing rusty but wasnt genuine and has been replaced with genuine.
Apparently some T4s rust but my dads old 94 was seriously solid.
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Mines a 1996 AGG engine and its never let me down and ive done some big runs in the car at the drop of a hat.My 16v abf was my most unreliable golf to date had loads of issues with it I did get it all sorted and my VR was to dam thursty :grin: so went back to a humble 8v as I think its the most reliable out the bunch and if you take care of it simple service will be pretty bullet proof.As for rust most mk3s and mk2s get it but to be fair there old cars with plenty of miles on the clock not many other 15 to 25 year old cars in condition like golfs still are.
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if thats the case then you should have already know the 2 engines are almost identical, that said i apologise if i offended you as we did come to an agreement before silly bollox got involved for no reason other than the fact i didnt agree with your first comment (and iv seen him do this all over the forum its pathetic).
Also, I wasnt making judgements like what your pal was with me!!! i assumed thats all you did as i was sure u mentioned it once, no biggie, What Job do you do now then ?
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chill
i only asked
i will stick to my 2.0 mk3
it drives nice, reasonably quick?, handles well nice
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why have i backed out ? i anwersed your question, now your just trying to stir up sh!t, so for that reason, i think its you who needs to grow up,
No you didn't answer the question. I asked why you are rude, you are like this on the forum in general.
Like a little child, is that why you got banned?
if thats the case then you should have already know the 2 engines are almost identical, that said i apologise if i offended you as we did come to an agreement before silly bollox got involved for no reason other than the fact i didnt agree with your first comment (and iv seen him do this all over the forum its pathetic).
Now i'd love for you to call me that to my face you little f.ucking runt :wink:
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:grin: :grin:
Oh im so scared, threats off a guy/boy who has never met me, now that is keyboard gangster at its best :grin: :rolleyes:
Yes i did answer your pathetic question, and i dont see what was rude anyhow, take a look on other threads, its alot worse on many others, i wouldnt mind but myself and wayne came to a conclusion, and iv even had the decency to say sotrry for anything that may have upset him, if you dont like it then fook off - simple aint it. all you are doing is targeting me. i hardly post on this forum no more so piss off with your bollox saying im rude all over the forum, READ all my recentr posts then come back and say that you tw4t
their was absolutly no need for you to butt in and try stir things up (which you are also continuing to do so)
I wont ask if the reason for your mood is you not getting any off the wife - as this is the very question that led me to get banned before (please keep up with things)
Now Relax - have a CIG.... its only a forum
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Oh im so scared, threats off a guy/boy who has never met me, now that is keyboard gangster at its best
Who's making threats? not me. I just stated that i'd like you to mouth off to my face, like you are on here.
That would make my day :smiley:
Yes i did answer your pathetic question, and i dont see what was rude anyhow, take a look on other threads, its alot worse on many others, i wouldnt mind but myself and wayne came to a conclusion, and iv even had the decency to say sotrry for anything that may have upset him, if you dont like it then fook off - simple aint it. all you are doing is targeting me. i hardly post on this forum no more so piss off with your bollox saying im rude all over the forum, READ all my recentr posts then come back and say that you tw4t
Yep, blah blah. Keep mouthing off. You are just simply a potty mouthed little boy :kiss:
their was absolutly no need for you to butt in and try stir things up (which you are also continuing to do so)
Every need to comment. It is a forum after all, as you have already pointed out.
No stirring here. Infact i've taken your side in the past, i thought some people were harsh on you.....
I wont ask if the reason for your mood is you not getting any off the wife - as this is the very question that led me to get banned before (please keep up with things)
What has my sex life got to do with it?
I'm actually married to a very beautiful woman, thankyou for asking.
Now Relax - have a CIG.... its only a forum
Don't talk to me about ciggies :sick:
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Ok pal let's move on now
Friends again ?
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Ok pal let's move on now
Friends again ?
Hmmmm
Well I think you were offside with some off your comments.
I think the problem here is your posting style, it does sometimes come across rather offensive :grin:
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Well that's the thing with forums, things can be easily taken out of context, my offer of trying to make up is on the table I can't do nonmore than that unless u wanna come round and let me cook for you :evil:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc
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:grin:
i bloody hate that band or whatever they are, apart from that bird is fit
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yeah i think she is pretty much fine :kiss:
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Any topic over 4 posts in this section will have an argument 95% of the time FACT!!
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Any topic over 4 posts in this section will have an argument 95% of the time FACT!!
Only if certain members get involved :laugh: :laugh:
:rolleyes:
You
Len
Kells F17BAD
DH
A8
Possibly more but cba to think.
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But having different views is part of forum life.
No it isn't.
Badum-tish :laugh:
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Fergie :cool: same age as me but that is all we will ever have in common.
You never p1ssed your self before?
(http://cityrag.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/12/19/fergie_pees_herself.jpg)
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I fear you are mistaken here. All that has happened is that the poor girl has obviously spotted a quite exceptional Mk.3 (probably a Mystic Blue 'Valver) and got a tad over excited... :grin:
S.M.
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Fergie :cool: same age as me but that is all we will ever have in common.
You never p1ssed your self before?
(http://cityrag.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/12/19/fergie_pees_herself.jpg)
haha wtf is going on here ?
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Fergie :cool: same age as me but that is all we will ever have in common.
You never p1ssed your self before?
(http://cityrag.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/12/19/fergie_pees_herself.jpg)
haha wtf is going on here ?
Got a bit excited when she saw me :smug:
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Any topic over 4 posts in this section will have an argument 95% of the time FACT!!
Only if certain members get involved :laugh: :laugh:
:rolleyes:
You
Len
Kells F17BAD
DH
A8
Possibly more but cba to think.
Hiya.
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:grin: