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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Martz on 06 January 2011, 21:29
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So for all of you who want to read -
http://www.ukwelder.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7117
I can believe that an alloy needing welding and deemed as scrap by most 'garages' and then repaired can invalidate insurance. Would like to know more about this as it seems a very untouched area, ie, what happens if the wheel fails and is deemed the cause of a fatality in a RTA? Who gets put up for manslaughter? :huh:
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on a £200 set of alloys i would just bin the bad ones.. but on a set of bbs's for instance that cost like 3k new i would wana try my hardest to get em repaired..
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So for all of you who want to read -
http://www.ukwelder.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7117
I can believe that an alloy needing welding and deemed as scrap by most 'garages' and then repaired can invalidate insurance. Would like to know more about that as it seems a very untouched area, ie, what happens if the wheel fails and is deemed the cause of a fatality in a RTA? Who get put up for manslaughter? :huh:
It would be the owner of the company that repaired the wheel.
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So for all of you who want to read -
http://www.ukwelder.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7117
I can believe that an alloy needing welding and deemed as scrap by most 'garages' and then repaired can invalidate insurance. Would like to know more about that as it seems a very untouched area, ie, what happens if the wheel fails and is deemed the cause of a fatality in a RTA? Who get put up for manslaughter? :huh:
This is exactly my point that i made in the banded alloy thread. This is why i would have it done properly where they check it after and certify the wheel is safe.
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A family member of mine works in the oil and gas industry and we were talking about welding the pipelines. Their are so many checks that they carry out to ensure that the pipes are welded to tight regulations. A pipeline has extreme pressure and stress.
All I am suggesting is that is no industry standard that can regulate bad repairs. May look good on the outside but a bit of contamination could be the end for someone further down the road!
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thats a risk each individuall is willing to take tho isnt you put that wheel back on at your own risk.. a brand new wheel is likely to have defects and could fail as well.. Its just a risk we run..
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thats a risk each individuall is willing to take tho isnt you put that wheel back on at your own risk.. a brand new wheel is likely to have defects and could fail as well.. Its just a risk we run..
Not really, with new wheels oem and manufacturers, they have set quality standards in place................................
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with the banded wheels if doing it through a reputable company the weld will be certificated after testing, this is the only route i would personally take. welded alloys just plain sound iffy to me.
just found this:
http://www.alloywheelrepairs.net/Welding.html
very clean in their workshop i must say! :lipsrsealed:
no mention of certification though.
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It's the image on the front screen that terrifies me to be honest.
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I would never drive round on a rim that had suffered this much damage and it scares me to think that there is some old bloke in his dirty shed churning out accidents waiting to happen. If someone i know had a rta because of a repaired wheel his insurance would be the last thing on his mind !!! :angry:
http://www.alloywheelrepairs.net/Content/Images/Photo%20Gallery/Wheels%20Damaged/AWR-040605-%20003.jpg
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http://www.alloywheelrepairs.net/Content/Images/Photo%20Gallery/Wheels%20Damaged/AWR-040605-%20003.jpg
:shocked: That should have ben scrapped to be honest.
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http://www.alloywheelrepairs.net/Content/Images/Photo%20Gallery/Wheels%20Damaged/AWR-040605-%20003.jpg
:shocked: That should have ben scrapped to be honest.
(http://www.alloywheelrepairs.net/Content/Images/Photo%20Gallery/Wheels%20Damaged/AWR-040605-%20003.jpg)
Shocking really.
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thats a risk each individuall is willing to take tho isnt you put that wheel back on at your own risk.. a brand new wheel is likely to have defects and could fail as well.. Its just a risk we run..
Its not just your own safety you are risking here! What happens when it fails just as you are going past a bus stop full of kids and pitches you into them?
That picture of the Azev wheel is ridiculous, there is no way you could fix that wheel responsibly and trust it not to fail without spending a massive amount of money on both the repair and the ensuing non destructive testing required to ensure the repair is safe. These guys need reporting if they are prepared to fix things like that.
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i agree that that azev is not worth repairing but as long as the wheels are tested after they are welded and as long as the work is done by professionals then i dont see any problem with it after all i know of some guys that have done welding on pipes for sullom voe oil terminal and all the welds are xrayed before they are fitted to ensure the weld is a good one
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Hobbiniho is right. I work with maritime agencies every now and again, and they load test davits and securing mounts. Once the load test is complete, the mounts are x-rayed to ensure there are no fractures that are not visible to the naked eye. To be able to repair a wheel properly, I think this will have to be done, and lets be honest which repairers can afford an x-ray machine, training personnel to use it, it would then need to be annually inspected and serviced, etc etc. My company spend massive amounts training people in Radialogical protection just to hold a dental xray machine that never gets used. There is no way on earth that your average repair shop would go to this trouble. Honestly I would not even think about doing it!
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Exactly, if checked there is a chance that the welds may be good but thats just never going to be viable with something like most alloy wheels as you have the cost of the welders time, heating the wheel to make sure the weld actually works, getting the correct welding rods, x-ray or other NDT checks. By the time you have done it properly the cost is going to be higher than buying a new wheel. Of course if its not a safety critical item then fine, weld away, but a wheel?
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the above wheel is dead but one with a smallish crack why should that be written off ??