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General => General discussion => Topic started by: stevengeelan on 01 January 2011, 12:29
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Thinking about changing my car again.
Anyone got any tips or advice on what to look out for with the Mk4 V6 4Motion?
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some as all mk4's common faults etc.. and why you want the v6 4mo ??
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Make sure the haldex is working,try wheel spinning and you'll soon find out.
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some as all mk4's common faults etc.. and why you want the v6 4mo ??
Looking for a cheaper car than what i currently drive to free up some cash, preferably with 4WD, have but don't wanna pay Mk4 R32 prices, which is why I thought about the V6 4mo.
Currently driving a Honda Civic type R after a bad experience with my local Volkswagen dealer which put me off them for a bit. I've not really got into the Honda though, looking for something with a bit of quality about it (which the Honda doesn't have).
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V6 4mo will be heavy money to run and they don't feel that quick.
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Why not look at the 1.8t model? A lot better drive and cheaper to fix if anything goes on the engine?
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Why not look at the 1.8t model? A lot better drive and cheaper to fix if anything goes on the engine?
Hmmmm? Here's someone who bought the v6 version and binned the engine for a 1.8 bam.
http://www.psituning.com/media%20show%20page/media%20customer%208.html (http://www.psituning.com/media%20show%20page/media%20customer%208.html)
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What a waste of time, and knowing PSi's prices, money too. Why not just buy an S3?
I picked up a 2001 3dr 4mo with a mere 38k on the clock before Christmas and enjoyed watching the vast majority of bellend drivers in the snow. I was lucky that it had a full VW service history and I am a mechanic for the Queen so had it up on the ramp as quick as I could. The underneath is cleaner than the mk5 I sold the same day, and the only bugbear I have with the car is the horrible bastard wood interior! Who on earth thought that was good?
As with buying any car, make sure everything works, all of the panels line up and it's not been pranged/written off. Mechanicals is simples.
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V6 4mo will be heavy money to run and they don't feel that quick.
Not too fussed about MPG as I don't need it for a commute, only really drive at weekends and if I'm out anywhere weeknight evenings.
What MPG can I expect with it? Used to have a Mk5 R32 for a wee while and was getting about 25MPG driving that reasonably sensibly. Isn't the V6 4mo quicker than the 1.8T?
Why not look at the 1.8t model? A lot better drive and cheaper to fix if anything goes on the engine?
Not really considered them, other than the anniversary model but they are too expensive, no 4WD and would struggle to find an unmolested one. Thought about the S3 for the 1.8T engine and 4WD but I imagine they would still be quite pricey too.
The underneath is cleaner than the mk5 I sold the same day, and the only bugbear I have with the car is the horrible fatherless son wood interior! Who on earth thought that was good?
As with buying any car, make sure everything works, all of the panels line up and it's not been pranged/written off. Mechanicals is simples.
Not too keen on the wood either, no idea why they thought that would be nicer than just black plastic? :undecided: lol
Is it able to be swapped with the interior from another model?
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On the trip down from bonnie wee scotland where I bought the car I mananged 33.5mpg, which is better than I ever got out of my Mk4 Anni, and that was with a couple of 140mph burns down the M74.
The 4mo is 204bhp at the flywheel, and the 1.8t came in the 150 and 180bhp flywheel power too. So with the 4wd bogging it down you'll probably have the same amount of power as the later 1.8t's, but not the driveability or noise.
The wood trim is pretty easy to sort, I've bought some of that 3M carbon fibre vinyl to go over the whole mahogany effect pap. If you have a gander on eBay there is some of the 'net optic' stuff pops up every now and again, and that makes a refreshing change to the brushed aluminium from the Anni/32.
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Looking for a cheaper car than what i currently drive to free up some cash, preferably with 4WD, have but don't wanna pay Mk4 R32 prices, which is why I thought about the V6 4mo.
Skoda Octavia? :lipsrsealed:
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On the trip down from bonnie wee scotland where I bought the car I mananged 33.5mpg, which is better than I ever got out of my Mk4 Anni, and that was with a couple of 140mph burns down the M74.
The 4mo is 204bhp at the flywheel, and the 1.8t came in the 150 and 180bhp flywheel power too. So with the 4wd bogging it down you'll probably have the same amount of power as the later 1.8t's, but not the driveability or noise.
The wood trim is pretty easy to sort, I've bought some of that 3M carbon fibre vinyl to go over the whole mahogany effect pap. If you have a gander on eBay there is some of the 'net optic' stuff pops up every now and again, and that makes a refreshing change to the brushed aluminium from the Anni/32.
Did you get it from a dealer or private sale? How much did you pay, if you don't mind me asking? Love that V6 noise.
Gonna have a look at S3s too and see what kinda price they are coming in at.
Looking for a cheaper car than what i currently drive to free up some cash, preferably with 4WD, have but don't wanna pay Mk4 R32 prices, which is why I thought about the V6 4mo.
Skoda Octavia? :lipsrsealed:
Are they 4WD?
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The 4wd ones are :wink:
1.8T
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Then look at the Audi s4 b5 shape. Pick them up quiet cheap and they are fast 2.7 v6 twin turbo 4wd. :grin: :grin:
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Thought 2.7 twin turbo was s4 b5 only, know the a4 b5's had n/a v6 larger engines and only the 1.8T was the only turbo a4? Depends how much your willing to spend s3's are about 4.5-6k for descent ones, but i am ashamed by the gearbox ratios, they use the same ratios as the anni mk4, which makes no sense on a beefier car?
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golf - pah
4 wheeled luxury with a Proper engine
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-53-Volkswagen-Passat-W8-4-Motion-Very-Rare-PETROL-/110604002717?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19c083259d#ht_1643wt_1139
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golf - pah
4 wheeled luxury with a Proper engine
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-53-Volkswagen-Passat-W8-4-Motion-Very-Rare-PETROL-/110604002717?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19c083259d#ht_1643wt_1139
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Now that's nice.
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Did you get it from a dealer or private sale? How much did you pay, if you don't mind me asking? Love that V6 noise.
It was a private sale that I'd only seen pictures of. And I paid £3.5k for it :laugh:
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Thought 2.7 twin turbo was s4 b5 only, know the a4 b5's had n/a v6 larger engines and only the 1.8T was the only turbo a4? Depends how much your willing to spend s3's are about 4.5-6k for descent ones, but i am ashamed by the gearbox ratios, they use the same ratios as the anni mk4, which makes no sense on a beefier car?
Still say the S4 is the better option. The S4 is a A4 but a very fast well built one, 2.7 twin turbo v6 engine running 265bhp standard. This is the same engine as the RS4 B5 but is has smaller turbos and some other de mods from the rs4. Audi did make the A4 in a 2.6 V6 and the run out models had 2.8 V6 in them. They also made a 1.6, 1.8, 1.8T, 2.3 V5 engine for the B5 models.
For example this one that S4 for sale on ebay is very very nice and for that price you are getting a lot of car, :grin: Do not be put off by the milage as this is a very well built car with a strong engine (as long as they have been looked after) and this is being sold by a dealer who would not sit it on his pitch if it was a dud. Gives you an idea of what you can pick them up for, i have even seen some sell for a little as 2.5k :shocked:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2000-X-Audi-S4-2-7T-QUATTRO-IMMACULATE-/140473884019?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20b4e55d73
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The only problem with old performance Audi's is, you need to be a good mechanic or have very deep pockets, or both because even parts can be expensive.
Hence why these cars are getting so cheap.
Amazing amount of car for the money though!
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golf - pah
4 wheeled luxury with a Proper engine
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-53-Volkswagen-Passat-W8-4-Motion-Very-Rare-PETROL-/110604002717?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19c083259d#ht_1643wt_1139
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Love these! shame they are so hard to find though
I'll have a look at the S4 too, but sadly I'm not a good mechanic and I don't have very deep pockets either so I doubt I'll go for one of these.
Got the other problem of getting rid of my own car first :undecided:
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Could always get the a4 b5 and do a v8 conversion off an a8, which seems to be popular... But now we are going into a different price story
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why not a remmapped a3 1.8tqs, can them about 2.5k cheaper than an s3, but its style you want then obviously thats a no go.
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Could always get the a4 b5 and do a v8 conversion off an a8, which seems to be popular... But now we are going into a different price story
Sounds like it would be awesome, but mega money, and I'm trying to free up some cash to buy a house.
why not a remmapped a3 1.8tqs, can them about 2.5k cheaper than an s3, but its style you want then obviously thats a no go.
I suppose a car with a good enough spec would do the job too.
My list is getting longer and longer
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Here's more on a V8 B5 conversion: http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/project-room/79781-v8-into-a4-b5-ii.html
Its shocking the v8 conversion, I was expecting the v8 to be huge, bit in comparison to the 1.8T its not that big:
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae279/Delta-Performance/Photo020.jpg)
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My girlfriend has a black V6 4mo, heated leather recaro's and all that jazz, Its a lovely car to drive! quicker than I expected it to 'feel', sounds awesome and the only downside is she only does about 5 miles a day in it and its a waste of a car really! Will probably move it on around easter time and replace it with something more boring but practical for her daily commute.
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That V8 is a still fair size.
Quite interesting, but not for me. Too much hassle and would be too expensive to get someone to do it for me
Top choices so far are still the V6 4mo Golf and now the W8 Passat
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My bloody alternator has just given up - on a bleeding Bank Holiday of all times!
Rats!