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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Hartside on 30 December 2010, 12:40

Title: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: Hartside on 30 December 2010, 12:40
I've always used a battery conditioner on previous cars if they aren't used for a week or so. With the recent bad spell of weather I was about to hook up the charger in situ, but read the manual that warns against charging the battery, leaving it only for a "qualified VW technician"

Anyone think this is overkill or a valid warning?

As it happens with the better weather, I had it on a 60 mile round trip yesterday and today so unecessary, but I'm still curious. When I check Elsawin, it tells you about charging the battery using various types of VW chargers, one of which doesn't look much different to mine.
Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: mac7 on 30 December 2010, 12:49
I think it's overkill to protect the 'average owner' who in this day and age has no technical aptitude at all. I use a battery conditioner on my car without any issues.
Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 30 December 2010, 13:47
Don't tell anyone or i will get slated but My mk6 has sat more or less for 2 months+. Just a couple of trips in and out of the garage  :wink: My battery is still reading ok.
Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: Ess_Three on 30 December 2010, 18:53
I think it's overkill to protect the 'average owner' who in this day and age has no technical aptitude at all. I use a battery conditioner on my car without any issues.

Me too.
I hook mine up to a conditioner when I go offshore....never a problem.
Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: Hartside on 30 December 2010, 19:53
Thanks guys, puts my mind at rest
Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 30 December 2010, 22:49
I spoke too soon  :embarassed: :grin:
It seems i managed to get a fault code due to low battery.
Any recomendations for a battery conditioner for the future from you guys just to keep it topped up when not in use?


Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: Ess_Three on 31 December 2010, 10:07
I spoke too soon  :embarassed: :grin:
It seems i managed to get a fault code due to low battery.
Any recomendations for a battery conditioner for the future from you guys just to keep it topped up when not in use?


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ctek-CTE-XS3600-Battery-Charger-Function/dp/B000RHWCNY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293790113&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ctek-CTE-XS3600-Battery-Charger-Function/dp/B000RHWCNY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293790113&sr=8-1)

Ctec XS3600, as supplied to Porsche.
Good enough for them, good enough for me.

I have one for each GTI hooked up in the garage. They come with a waterproof connector you can connect to the battery and leave inside the battery trim box when not in use. Spot on!

I got my old man one too the other year...a quality piece of kit...and at that price, an absolute steal.
Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: Hartside on 31 December 2010, 10:27
Yes, the CTEK ones are excellent. Keep your eye on Aldi as well, they do a rebranded CTEK like the one above for only £12.99, but they appear only once or twice a year.
Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 31 December 2010, 18:43
I spoke too soon  :embarassed: :grin:
It seems i managed to get a fault code due to low battery.
Any recomendations for a battery conditioner for the future from you guys just to keep it topped up when not in use?


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ctek-CTE-XS3600-Battery-Charger-Function/dp/B000RHWCNY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293790113&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ctek-CTE-XS3600-Battery-Charger-Function/dp/B000RHWCNY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293790113&sr=8-1)

Ctec XS3600, as supplied to Porsche.
Good enough for them, good enough for me.

I have one for each GTI hooked up in the garage. They come with a waterproof connector you can connect to the battery and leave inside the battery trim box when not in use. Spot on!

I got my old man one too the other year...a quality piece of kit...and at that price, an absolute steal.
If thats the exact same model you have its good enough for me as yours has not blown up yet.  :grin:
Thanks
Geoff.
Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: Ess_Three on 01 January 2011, 10:51
If thats the exact same model you have its good enough for me as yours has not blown up yet.  :grin:
Thanks
Geoff.

That's the one Geoff.
I've been using a pair of them for 5 years+ on my Golfs/911...and my old man uses one on his Mk5 Golf...never a problem. They just work, and work well...no battery issues since getting them.

Highly reccomended.

Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 01 January 2011, 11:37
Thanks  :smiley:
Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: stu79 on 01 January 2011, 14:30
My GTI had been sat without use for the last couple of months too until a week ago. One night the temperature got down to -15 and the alarm went off at about 5 in the morning and then it did it again a few days later when it went down to -8 degrees, I thought it was somebody else's car at first as I've never heard the alarm in the 16 months I've had it. I can only guess that the voltage got too low and the the battery power management thing (mentions it on VW website) cut the power to the non-operational items, like the alarm which in-turn noticed the voltage drop (i had disabled the movement / tilt sensors already on parking it up)

Have since done about 500 miles in it in the relatively mild weather we're having, it started within a few seconds of turning the key so I guess the voltage couldn't have been that low.... have had no issues since.

Have ordered the ctek conditioner you mentioned above in the hope that it'll keep the battery topped up and wont spook the alarm when it clicks in and out - thanks - I didn't know these things existed!

Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 01 January 2011, 17:39
Mine started fine, even the interior lights etc all worked fine as they should but the car logged a fault on its computer system.

1 Fault Found:
00907 - Intervention load Management
            000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 177
                    Mileage: 3960 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.14.09
                    Time: 20:51:15

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.45 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF



Looks like my battery got a bit upset (looks like 14sep2010 if im reading it right?) with the cold and asked the cent elc unit to turn stuff off!!

00907 - Intervention load Management
00907 - Intervention load Management
Possible Symptoms
Some electrical functions in the vehicle shut themselves off.

Possible Causes
At some point, the Battery Monitor requested the Cent. Elect. controller shed some load to ensure that the vehicle would still start. This is not a "fault" but more an "advisory" code. If you leave lights on or doors open or the ignition on for any length of time, the Battery Monitor will request various systems to power things down rather than letting the batter get discharged too much.
Possible Solutions
Clear fault and check later to see if it reappears. Attach a battery charger if you plan to operate electrical systems in the car for extended periods without the engine running.
Note that was months ago too and its only been run for half an hour at tickover in that time since but everything seemed ok until in checked the battery voltage!
Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: RedHP on 02 January 2011, 17:06
Have we gone back in time here....?

I have left my GiT for over 2 weeks without starting her, during the 3 feet etc of snow we had (and -12 temps at night), and she started first time.
I thought these newer batteries had more give, and didn't give a charger a second thought, well not since the mid-1990's.

I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but maybe I have been lucky....?

Red
Title: Re: Battery charging/conditioning on Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 02 January 2011, 19:07
The new calcium and lead calcium batteries are not lasting that well. A mate works for a main dealer and they are replacing batteries under warrenty quite regular now. All the electronic control units zap power. As i said just because your car starts does not meen your batttery voltage has not dropped as my cars scan shows. My car started no problem with no signs of a low battery, until i tested its voltage, but on one day months ago the voltage was low enough that the cars ecu turned alot of things off and logged a fault.