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Title: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 09:54
hi people i need some advise ! i have a mk3 golf vr6 its had a bit of work done to it and runs very well indeed but as always we want more power !!! so far the work done is as follows = ajustable coilovers all round, lowerd not sure by how much ? but it handles like nothing ive seen or driven before. full staneless steel exaust, decated, induction kit, chiped, 6 branch manifold with a very expensive heat wrap, enginewise it has had bits and bobs done to it not quite sure what ????  i know all the gaskets where replaced with thicker and stronger ones aswell as stronger head bolts, i have also lightened the car by taking out all the seats, infact i have stripped the whole interior, there is nothing inside the car apart from the steering wheel and pedels. the car standard weighs 1680 kg i will keep stripping and cutting metal away untill i get this weight down to 1000kg ................. as i am cutting wholes away from the metal i will be putting in 3 strut braces as not to loose rigidity . please advise what else i can do to get the bhp upto approx 300bhp ! engine mods ? turbo ? supercharger ?

i am not a mechanic but i do now my way around a car, i simply want more power but dont want to cut my arm off and sell it to achive this ......... please advise ?

ps this car is in the process of being fully tracked as i live round the corner from brands hatch !
pps can someone tell me how to upload photos to the site as i want to document everything i do from standard to track car ! cheers matt
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: lewis1641 on 29 December 2010, 10:19
if you are cutting metal off the shell then never mind braces, get a full cage in there, especially given its a track car
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 10:26
i wil be cutting away the inside of all the doors as i willl be putting in plastic windows and doing away with the glass and electric window motors and mechanisms,  and cutting lots of 1 inch round holes away from the inside of the shell, ie boot loot, back panel, bassicaly anywhere i can that wont affect the structure of the car ! but yes your right a full roll cage will be needed and i will get one, i have been looking and the cheapest i have found is £450 i will have this in by the 29th jan as i will be on the track at brands hatch then !
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Toby on 29 December 2010, 10:33
bored out to a 2.9?

n a supercharger or.. turbo if u have the ££
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: shepgti on 29 December 2010, 10:35
a standard vr weighs 1155kg not 1680.. it must have some pretty big mods already to have increased by 50 bhp but my suggestion would be to turbo it :evil:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: LazyLunatic on 29 December 2010, 10:39
A few ££££'s later and you could a 300bhp VRT.

VR6 running 300bhp reliably isn't a simple task I wouldn't of thought (or cheap!).

Good luck though! I would defo do everything else you want to do to the car, except engine power and see how it goes on the track. When the car is ready for more power, slap on a turbo :cool:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 29 December 2010, 10:43
a standard vr weighs 1155kg not 1680.. it must have some pretty big mods already to have increased by 50 bhp but my suggestion would be to turbo it :evil:

I thought the standard VR weight was 1220kg  :undecided:

I'll be very surprised if your already running 220bhp from the mods you've listed. As mentioned already forced induction is the next step for big power, but it won't be cheap!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 10:45
sorry my mistake on the weight ! 1155kg is right ! still need to loose weight tho at least 155kg ! when you guys say turbo it or supercharge it can you give me a bit more information where to get this done how much it will cost ect ect ! like i said i dont want to spend a fortune too get this seriously quick but at the same time im not on a shoe string budget and can spend resonable money to achive what i want ..
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 29 December 2010, 10:52
sorry my mistake on the weight ! 1155kg is right ! still need to loose weight tho at least 155kg ! when you guys say turbo it or supercharge it can you give me a bit more information where to get this done how much it will cost ect ect ! like i said i dont want to spend a fortune too get this seriously quick but at the same time im not on a shoe string budget and can spend resonable money to achive what i want ..

Head to the Mk3 section and use the search function, it's been covered plenty of times before so you should be able to find the info that you need there  :smiley:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 10:54
can you guys please tell me how to put photos on as i want the world to see my monster lol ! and could you all be a bit more  specific as to what to do and how to achive more power, where to go ect ? like i said engine work has been done before i bought the car and i have seen the roing road print out showing 220bhp ! the car performs very well i have had a few races with some serious  cars 225bhp audi tt, scuby, and a bmw m3 on a 2004 plate, i wont lie the bmw could have driven pass me at any time but my mk3 vr6 performed very we and supprissed the m3 driver, bear in mind mine has 1992 technology and the bmw is over 300bhp and has 2004 technology ! we where doing 120mph in traffic down the a2 ! not good know but boys will be boys !
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: shepgti on 29 December 2010, 11:18
can you guys please tell me how to put photos on as i want the world to see my monster lol ! and could you all be a bit more  specific as to what to do and how to achive more power, where to go ect ? like i said engine work has been done before i bought the car and i have seen the roing road print out showing 220bhp ! the car performs very well i have had a few races with some serious  cars 225bhp audi tt, scuby, and a bmw m3 on a 2004 plate, i wont lie the bmw could have driven pass me at any time but my mk3 vr6 performed very we and supprissed the m3 driver, bear in mind mine has 1992 technology and the bmw is over 300bhp and has 2004 technology ! we where doing 120mph in traffic down the a2 ! not good know but boys will be boys !

0.11 seconds of google searching pulled up

 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VR6-Turbo-Kit-Garrett-GT3582R-Shimmel-Performance_W0QQitemZ160514934389QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=191148794013&rvr_id=191148794013&cguid=31dcb90912d0a0e203518ee1fff8c66a


http://www.tsr-performance.com/pages/turbo.asp
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 12:12
thanks shepgti for the links i have called them but there is no answer ! i am going to book this car in to get it sorted ! im swaying towards the supercharger as apossed to the turbo ? but i think i will do what ever one is cheaper ! anyone know how to put pictures on ?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 29 December 2010, 13:14
thanks shepgti for the links i have called them but there is no answer ! i am going to book this car in to get it sorted ! im swaying towards the supercharger as apossed to the turbo ? but i think i will do what ever one is cheaper ! anyone know how to put pictures on ?

You need to create a photobucket account and upload your pics to there. Once uploaded you'll be provided with HTML code that you paste into the forum to display your picture  :smiley:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: shepgti on 29 December 2010, 14:45
about 5 lines up from this thread is this guide  :rolleyes:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=85911.0


Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 29 December 2010, 15:45
we where doing 120mph in traffic down the a2 ! not good know but boys will be boys !

You're doing a track car and you feel the need to test it at that speed in traffic, sorry, not impressed.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: DazVR6 on 29 December 2010, 17:00
I'd say get yourself up to Stealth Racing in the midlands as they are very clued up on anything VR6 related.

http://www.stealthracing.co.uk/index.php

They have put together a turbo package which including installation roll in/roll out price is about £4-4500. That gets you 300bhp with potential for alot more.

Have a read...

http://www.vr6oc.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?339563

Oh and one other thing i'd suggest is get your car on a reliable rolling road to get an accurate power figure, alot of rolling roads are not calibrated properly or are set up to INTENTIONALLY over read just to please customers ect.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 17:39
CHEERS (DAZ VR6) VERY HELPFULL ! I WILL GET THIS BEAST RUNNING 300BHP
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 18:21
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Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 18:23
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Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 18:24
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Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 18:26
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Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 18:29
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Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: DazVR6 on 29 December 2010, 18:31
Liking the white wheels, looks  :cool:

Also think about lightening your flywheel as the Vr6 is a very lazy engine, this will help it rev more freely.

Also lowering your final drive will help with accelleration, think its 3.94 you need which is out of a G60 box. (sure someone will be along to correct me though).
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 18:33
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Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Wayne on 29 December 2010, 18:38

infact i have stripped the whole interior, there is nothing inside the car apart from the steering wheel and pedels. the car standard weighs 1680 kg i will keep stripping and cutting metal away untill i get this weight down to 1000kg .................


What do you sit on then  :grin:

Starting with a 5dr was not the best move, 3 door would have been better also for a track car 16v or a mk2 is a much better bet, VR is too front heavy and understeers.

I also doubt yours is running 220bhp, standard inlet manifold will be holding it back.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 19:11
It has a 6 branch manifold ! And I'm not a little kid showing off, I have seen the print out it had 3 runs the highest being 218bhp ! I will be putting it back on the rolling road again hopefully within the next 2 weeks I will take a picture of it and upload it  just for you ! And I sit on one seat that I have left in it to move the car around ! Mr smarty pants ! And telling that I would be better off with a 16v or gti is neither here nor there ! I didn't buy the car with the intentions of it being the best car for the track ! I simply bought the car and then chose to track it, so I'm making the best of an already good situation! Thanks for ur input mr smarty pants.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Wayne on 29 December 2010, 19:14
It has a 6 branch manifold ! And I'm not a little kid showing off, I have seen the print out it had 3 runs the highest being 218bhp ! I will be putting it back on the rolling road again hopefully within the next 2 weeks I will take a picture of it and upload it  just for you ! And I sit on one seat that I have left in it to move the car around ! Mr smarty pants ! And telling that I would be better off with a 16v or gti is neither here nor there ! I didn't buy the car with the intentions of it being the best car for the track ! I simply bought the car and then chose to track it, so I'm making the best of an already good situation! Thanks for ur input mr smarty pants.

Sorry but I will stand by what I have said, magic rollers will get you 218bhp, major engine work will see real world gains.

As for a track car again I will say a VR is too front heavy.

Thank you.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 19:20
Its had engine work done to it ! Mate I don't give a sh@@ what u think or say ! I'm not on here to impress you ! I'm here to gain knowledge and better my car and have a bit of friendly banter ! Seems ur not so friendly mr smarty pants!!!!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: robz on 29 December 2010, 19:31
Err... Actually Wayne is very helpful and was only offering advice!!
The car looks nice though mate!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 29 December 2010, 19:38
Its had engine work done to it ! Mate I don't give a sh@@ what u think or say ! I'm not on here to impress you ! I'm here to gain knowledge and better my car and have a bit of friendly banter ! Seems ur not so friendly mr smarty pants!!!!

Beg to differ matey, Wayne is extremely knowledgeable and helpful. What Wayne said before about major engine work seeing real word gains is correct, from what you've said so far the engine doesn't appear to have had anything major done to it  :undecided:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 29 December 2010, 19:40
Yep, Wayne knows his stuff  :smiley:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Wayne on 29 December 2010, 19:43
Its had engine work done to it ! Mate I don't give a sh@@ what u think or say ! I'm not on here to impress you ! I'm here to gain knowledge and better my car and have a bit of friendly banter ! Seems ur not so friendly mr smarty pants!!!!

Standard a VR is around 174, if yours is 218bhp then what work has it had to gain 44bhp.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 29 December 2010, 19:44
But what about 16v owners? they seem to get very good gains from nothing  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Wayne on 29 December 2010, 19:46
But what about 16v owners? they seem to get very good gains from nothing  :grin:

Lets not venture down that path tonight, at least not whilst I have a headache.  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: robz on 29 December 2010, 19:47
:D
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 29 December 2010, 19:48
But what about 16v owners? they seem to get very good gains from nothing  :grin:

Lets not venture down that path tonight, at least not whilst I have a headache.  :grin:

Well a 16v does 170 with a remap, so a vr must do 200  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: jonnypolish on 29 December 2010, 19:48
LOL and it turns into a Wayne appreciation thread :D But +1 you can rely on Wayne for some helpful input!
God help you when you meet DH  :grin: :grin:  :grin:

Uhmm as said before i would have started with a 3 door 16v, since the VR is VERY front heavy and understeers!
But work with what you've got :) Bore it out, possibly the Rado inlet, Port + polish the head, Bigger Rado TB
Then Supercharge it, especially for track use :) Should see you hitting that magical 300hp with some pretty pennies spent :)
Worth wiping the smile of the BM and Merc drivers out there :afro:
Good luck with it mate, everyone has different opinons on whats HOT and whats NOT :D
We all do silly races! Just dont tell others about it :D
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Deano2711 on 29 December 2010, 20:02
Are the pictures you have posted old pictures ??  I ask because I am sure I can see the passenger headrest in the one pic and the engine still has the original air filter housing. The first mod for most would be a decent cold air intake kit. As said before the engine looks pretty standard but then again some mods cannot be seen. Also said before but listen to Wayne....he is one of the most knowledgable guys on here and knows his onions Mate.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 20:37
I feel like I'm being attacked for buying the wrong car for the track ! I'm not a mechanic nor am I an engine tuner ! I'm on here for u guys to help me not slag me off ! I can only tell u what I know about the car in the hope u can advise me ! It has had engine mods done to it not sure what exactly ! What I do know is it has a 6 branch manifold full stainless exaust, induction kit, power chip and the internal work ? Please stop barking at me I'm nit a 17 year old kid showing off. I'm a 30 year old that's into cars and is after some advise !
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 29 December 2010, 20:38
I think the advice given so far has been good  :smiley:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: robz on 29 December 2010, 20:39
Think you've taken it the wrong way mate!
Everything that has been said was all good advice from people that have plenty of experience, neaning Wayne not me lol.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 29 December 2010, 20:42
I feel like I'm being attacked for buying the wrong car for the track ! I'm not a mechanic nor am I an engine tuner ! I'm on here for u guys to help me not slag me off ! I can only tell u what I know about the car in the hope u can advise me ! It has had engine mods done to it not sure what exactly ! What I do know is it has a 6 branch manifold full stainless exaust, induction kit, power chip and the internal work ? Please stop barking at me I'm nit a 17 year old kid showing off. I'm a 30 year old that's into cars and is after some advise !

Fare point that is why we are all on here for a bit of advice and general chat about vw dub's, can i just say something and dont take it the wrong way but the photo you put up of the engine shows that it is running the standard airbox which means it isnt an induction kit. Do you know if the filter inside is a uprated filter instead? Usally an induction kit would get rid of the air box and possibly have a heat shield a round it?
Do like the car though mate  :smiley:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: shepgti on 29 December 2010, 20:43
just ignore the pointless comments, at the end of the day i'd rather thrash about in a vr than a 16v purely for the sound. ref the bhp and mods they are all by the by if your turboing/supercharging although if theres no recipts for the modds you may want to check out whats actually going on under the bonnet as things that are said during a sale can often be taken with a pinch of salt..
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 20:54
Sorry my mistake it has a performance filter ! I'm new on this site so don't really know what I'm doing ! It's taken me a week to put a pic on ! I'll get some more pics on tommorow ! I'm after a roll cage and all the strut braces if anyone has any and a steering wheel with boss ?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 21:03
Yea I hear that ! But at the same time there must have been some mods done engine wise as I took it to a rolling road and saw the 218bhp ? Is there anywhere near brands hatch that I can take the car to to get it super charged pay the money and drive out ? Hopefully with a massive smile on my face !
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 29 December 2010, 21:05
Sorry my mistake it has a performance filter ! I'm new on this site so don't really know what I'm doing ! It's taken me a week to put a pic on ! I'll get some more pics on tommorow ! I'm after a roll cage and all the strut braces if anyone has any and a steering wheel with boss ?

Thought so, its not a prob mate as we where all once beginers on this site  :grin: I would suggest though that you do have a real tinker around the engine to see if you can tell what else visually has been done. Performance filters actually give good gains against some induction kits. Has the airbox had any holes drilled in it that you can see? If you not sure take the filter out and see the inside of the box.
I looked at getting a mk3 vr6 before i got my mk2 and was thinking a long the same lines of you by stripping it out fully and get it track spec. At the end of the day iwas wanting something that would put a smile on my face and at least you have the right idea mate  :smiley:
Cant help on the roll cage but i am sure someone will know of someone who can. I do know a very very good welder who has built a fare few roll cages in his time who would be willing to make you one???
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 29 December 2010, 21:15
Yea I hear that ! But at the same time there must have been some mods done engine wise as I took it to a rolling road and saw the 218bhp ? Is there anywhere near brands hatch that I can take the car to to get it super charged pay the money and drive out ? Hopefully with a massive smile on my face !

I am sure that there will be a place but the problem you have is that i dout any garage will supercharge it without knowing what has already been done plus they would make sure that the car is running mint first. Otherwise they will have to start looking at what has already been done to the engine first before they supercharge it which will cost you more money. This is why i said that maybe an idea to have a good tinker first aroung the engine and see what has actually been done before you walk into a garage and want it supercharging?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 21:18
Yea the air box has a 2 inch hole cut out at the front with a pipe going from the air box to a hole cut out of the fog light!  Where abouts is ur welder ?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 21:28
Are you anywhere near me ?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 29 December 2010, 21:37
He is in lincolnshire near skegness but he has done the cages before and had then special deliverd? I could get a price off him and let you know. I would need to know what sort of cage you want? Full including all door pilers etc etc?
Ok so i get what has been done to the air intake, basically they have put a performance filter in the standard box, then made a custome induction hose from the fog to the air inlet. What sort of exhaust system has it goot aprat from the 6 branch and the dtm back box? Only asking (i might be wrong here) but the guy who has had it before has oobviously thought about the air intake to have kept the standard box and build a custom intake pipe, they wanted the best airflow with little heat affecting it. If it has been decatted and custome center exhaust section then they have obviously wanted the air to flow as good as possible into the car and back out again which might suggest they may have done more. But like i said a maybe wrong on this point and i am sure someone will point this out???? But i was always tought that the better and colder the air getting into an engine and the better you can make it exit it then the better the performance???
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 21:55
Ok this is starting to make a bit more sense to me now ! Exaust wise it is a full stanless with no cat, yea I'd be very interested in the cage do u have any pics of any cages he has done before ? I would want a full cage the hole kit and kaboodle ! It also has coilovers all round it's been lowered don't know by how much but it handle the nuts even in the wet as it has semi slick tyres on it, this car is quite a beast it's ashame I don't know what's been done !
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 29 December 2010, 22:08
mmm well maybe they have thought about good air flow through the engine then. I dont have any pics but will try and get some for you and pm them to you. Do you know what make the coilovers are? Just that you can buy some cheap coilovers which are common just to give you that slammed look and are quiet good at cornering or you can actually get race spec ones which are sh*t hot and cost a lot of money. Did you buy the car with semi's on? Could you not find out from the V5 (logbook) who the privious owner was and try to contact them to see what they had done to the car???
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: DazVR6 on 29 December 2010, 22:16
My old vr had a 6 branch manifold, decat, full stainless system and an induction kit and that made 191.4 bhp at Awesome gti in Manchester. Oh and it was obd2.

For your car to be making 218 bhp it must have some uprated cams, port+polished head, bigger valves and a 2.9l intake manifold and throttle body and ontop of that a remap/chip.

Does the car have any paperwork/reciepts with it so you can get more of an idea what has been done..?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Diamond Hell on 29 December 2010, 22:28
Holy f*ck, where to start.

*sigh*

Can this be moved to the track section where we can lampoon it in relative peace?  :rolleyes:

Judging by the naivety of the original poster someone should either inform him of the existence of Google or that modifying a VR6 for track is hardly an exciting journey, or one that many of us are particularly excited about him embarking upon with such little knowledge, experience or guile.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 29 December 2010, 22:28
My old vr had a 6 branch manifold, decat, full stainless system and an induction kit and that made 191.4 bhp at Awesome gti in Manchester. Oh and it was obd2.

For your car to be making 218 bhp it must have some uprated cams, port+polished head, bigger valves and a 2.9l intake manifold and throttle body and ontop of that a remap/chip.

Does the car have any paperwork/reciepts with it so you can get more of an idea what has been done..?

Surely though that if he has had uprated cam, port polish, bigger valves etc etc then it should be running more the 220bhp? Even after you have sorted the air flow out to be a lot better then a remap and chip would possibly put it in the sort of mark bhp? When yours was running 191bhp was that with a remap and chip? JUst wondered because if it wasnt then if you had got a good remap that might have taken the bhp to 215-220????
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: DazVR6 on 29 December 2010, 22:41
My old vr had a 6 branch manifold, decat, full stainless system and an induction kit and that made 191.4 bhp at Awesome gti in Manchester. Oh and it was obd2.

For your car to be making 218 bhp it must have some uprated cams, port+polished head, bigger valves and a 2.9l intake manifold and throttle body and ontop of that a remap/chip.

Does the car have any paperwork/reciepts with it so you can get more of an idea what has been done..?

Surely though that if he has had uprated cam, port polish, bigger valves etc etc then it should be running more the 220bhp? Even after you have sorted the air flow out to be a lot better then a remap and chip would possibly put it in the sort of mark bhp? When yours was running 191bhp was that with a remap and chip? JUst wondered because if it wasnt then if you had got a good remap that might have taken the bhp to 215-220????

That was without a remap.

If i had had it remapped i'd have been lucky to get another 3-5 bhp.
Remaps/chips give llittle gain on N/Acars compared to cars with forced induction.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 23:11
dimond hell ill tel you what ill do ill jus delete my post for you ! will that make you happy ! there is some proper dick heads on here ! yes im naieve so what ? like i said im not a mechanic or an engine tuner. does that mean i cant par take in conversaition or talk about my own car ! i get the gist of it, getting a car ready for the track is hard even when you know what your doing and i dont, so what ! on a serious note if certain people have nothing positive to say then dont say anything at all. CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE TURNING THE CONVERSATION SO ITS BASED ON ME AND NOT MY VW OR VWS IN GENERAL

it seems certain people on this forum use it to show the size of there nuts ! well !!!!!!!  DIMOND HELL YOU OFFICIALLY HAVE REAL BIG NUTS well done mate
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 23:18
ill make a new post called (vr6 mk3 golf and the owner doesnt know much about engine mods. please bark at him every chance you get instead of helping him)
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 29 December 2010, 23:19
That was without a remap.

If i had had it remapped i'd have been lucky to get another 3-5 bhp.
Remaps/chips give llittle gain on N/Acars compared to cars with forced induction.
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Really thought they would have given more then that in the bhp range. I know though you get better gains from a remap on a n/a car a lower revs, they seem to be more responsive too?
I would expect to have a good gain though from having all engine work like cams, port polish, throttle body, bigger valves, injectors and manifold, what sort of extra bhp increase should you expect from that?
I still suggest he checks the V5 out for the old owner and try to contact them they might know a little better about what has been done.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 23:26
peej i have just texted the last owner but he hasnt got back to me yet, ill ring him in the morning. so watch this space and we might find out ?

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/photo9.jpg)
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 29 December 2010, 23:29
ill make a new post called (vr6 mk3 golf and the owner doesnt know much about engine mods. please bark at him every chance you get instead of helping him)

Mate you have to take DH with a spinch of salt dont worry about what he says, he is harmless but does know his sh*t about how to set a track car up. The problem you have is your biting back to him, best not biting bk and he may decided to give you some helpful tips towards your project  :grin:

Anyway off the negativty just thought about something else, what breaks have you got? This is usally a normal upgrade for people when they have work done to the engine, at the end of the day if you start to increase the engine power you want to increase the stopping power too. :smiley:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 December 2010, 23:33
girling calipers ! green stuff pads ! vented disks on the front and the rear disks look standard !!!!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 29 December 2010, 23:42
well that could be another positive that they have spent money on uprating the front breaks, the back breaks dont have as much efficiency as the front so i wouldnt worry too much about them until you turbo/supercharge it.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: richandhazel on 29 December 2010, 23:49
peej i have just texted the last owner but he hasnt got back to me yet, ill ring him in the morning. so watch this space and we might find out ?

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/photo9.jpg)


Looks nice, certainly something for me to aspire too...........mine is Hazels is a non runner, hopefully not for long. I'm looking forward to getting mine Hazels running at the standard 174 for the moment :smiley:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 00:58
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Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 02:08
I've just read through this thread properly now..... You seem to know what you want out of it and it appears you've got cash to throw at it... Lucky for you, it's going to need it, it's difficult to mod an already modded engine and not know whats already done, for your sake i hope the previous owner can help you out.

You seem very excitable, bit of advice, stop being so fecking defensive every time someone says something you don't like, there has been quite a lot of quick, useful advise posted here already, not all of it has been useful in your eyes but then just ignore that and lap up the good stuff.

There are people on here who have worked for VW, tuning companies, prepare track cars etc, already you appear to be rubbing some of them up the wrong way by over reacting to what they are saying to you.  So take a deep breath and enjoy being on one of the most useful sites I have ever been on which comes with some great characters, sarcasm and a bit of humour all for free. That's what this place is about if you take a proper look.

Shaun
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 02:14
Yea cool ! I'm gonna have a Stella and smash my birds head in instead ! Cheers and good night
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: maisy on 30 December 2010, 06:20
Yea cool ! I'm gonna have a Stella and smash my birds head in instead ! Cheers and good night

 :sick:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Wayne on 30 December 2010, 09:34
girling calipers ! green stuff pads ! vented disks on the front and the rear disks look standard !!!!

Girling calipers and vented discs are standard, they are standard size as it is running 15" wheels, bigger brakes need bigger wheels.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: robz on 30 December 2010, 09:42
...?
not helping with these replies are ya to be fair...
good that you have the previous owners details, lets see what comes of that!
what people are trying to say is that "from experience" a 16v mk3 would have gained you more whilst keeping better weight over the front, as im sure you know, the vr lump is a heavy beast!
ive been in a heavily modified vr and if your not wanting to compete just have a few track days at a good pace, then there is nothing wrong with the vr! and i can tell ya it went like sh!t off a shiny shovel!
i would also back up the supercharge route, because its a whole world of difference with one of those slapped on!
as wayne says about the brakes, there are plenty of upgrades to consider too!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Diamond Hell on 30 December 2010, 09:49
Oh there's a lot of gormless, shouty noise in this thread, with very little evidence that owner is likely to execute on any of it, that he has the skills or intelligence to either execute what he wants to, or keep it on a track once he has.

I'm going to brand this: WPMNAH

That's - Warning: Project May Not Actually Happen.

If you're planning this sort of thing you don't just go out and buy a VR6 on-spec, you figure out what you want and why and then find what it is that you want.

I notice it has HIDs in it too.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 09:50
Rob where/who do you know of who can sort out fitting a supercharger ? I just want to drop the car off and pick it up when it's done ! What king of money do you think it might cost me ?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 09:52
What's hids ?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: robz on 30 December 2010, 10:02
ok, before dh sees that one, lol
HIDS (high intensity discharge) lights are illegal unles you have the correct projectors and self leveliing systems, due to them being brighter than conventional lights!
a very common and annoying mod that blinds everyone else on the road!
there are lots of places that do this kind of work, im not familiar with any of them, i think g-werks are a popular one but as i havent got to this stage i havent bothered researching it!
have a search, theres tons of info on here!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 10:27
Rob where/who do you know of who can sort out fitting a supercharger ? I just want to drop the car off and pick it up when it's done ! What king of money do you think it might cost me ?

This place:

http://www.tsr-performance.com/pages/turbo.asp (http://www.tsr-performance.com/pages/turbo.asp)

That page is for their turbo and supercharger kits, you may need to ring them for fitting prices but they do quote the magical figure you're after.

Shaun
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 30 December 2010, 10:29
Has the old owner come back to you yet?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: NYSoul on 30 December 2010, 11:21
For the money it would cost to slap a blower on and sort the rest of the car out you could buy......

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Vento-VR6-Track-Race-Car-Built-VW-Not-golf-/150536117083?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item230ca6db5b
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 30 December 2010, 11:30
For the money it would cost to slap a blower on and sort the rest of the car out you could buy......

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Vento-VR6-Track-Race-Car-Built-VW-Not-golf-/150536117083?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item230ca6db5b

I was looking at this and if i had the money i would, awsome car, i would have it resprayed though as not liking the blue.  :sick:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Diamond Hell on 30 December 2010, 12:44
For the money it would cost to slap a blower on and sort the rest of the car out you could buy......

Now that's proper, but £10 says the OP doesn't have £4k to spend on anything, let alone an actual dedicated track car, or a trailer to pull it around.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 12:58
For the money it would cost to slap a blower on and sort the rest of the car out you could buy......

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Vento-VR6-Track-Race-Car-Built-VW-Not-golf-/150536117083?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item230ca6db5b

Wow now thats the business for that kind of cash.... You couldn't build anything to that standard for that money!

Who gives a feck about the colour at that price.

Um..... If I was building a VR track car I'd give up, sell it and buy this, simples.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: shepgti on 30 December 2010, 13:11
For the money it would cost to slap a blower on and sort the rest of the car out you could buy......

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Vento-VR6-Track-Race-Car-Built-VW-Not-golf-/150536117083?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item230ca6db5b

Wow now thats the business for that kind of cash.... You couldn't build anything to that standard for that money!

Who gives a feck about the colour at that price.

Um..... If I was building a VR track car I'd give up, sell it and buy this, simples.


you can get alot of track car for 5k and that one seems a little strong..


i mean.. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Subaru-Impreza-RA-road-legal-track-car-SIMTEK-313bhp-/230567272698?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35aee160fa

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLKSWAGEN-CORRADO-VR6-ROAD-LEGAL-TRACK-CAR-/260713900434?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cb3c26992
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: JC on 30 December 2010, 13:33
sorry, but i lol'd at this whole thread - and welcome to the world of mk3 slating and people saying what they see. . . . . .  .

and remember

(http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/Themes/2_SlickPro_Graphite/images/newlogo3.jpg)
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: NYSoul on 30 December 2010, 13:37


you can get alot of track car for 5k and that one seems a little strong..


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That Vento is a bit special though. I doubt VW watch the pennies when they build something like that. There must be £4000 in the box, driveshafts and brakes alone (am pretty sure someone will come along and tell me more!!).

I'll admit it looks a little dated and go as far as to say the Corrado looks better but......

The Vento is a serious bit of kit built by some people who know what they are doing using high end stuff. The Corrado (as nice as it it) is a bit of fun.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: NYSoul on 30 December 2010, 13:38
Haha, why do my quotes never work???  :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: JC on 30 December 2010, 13:44
Haha, why do my quotes never work???  :laugh:

try using the PREVIEW button first  :wink:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 30 December 2010, 13:46
Haha, why do my quotes never work???  :laugh:

Your missing the tag to open the quote, for example below is the same quote as above but without the closing tag (so you can see what is needed at the start). Using the preview button helps to check that it is right  :wink:


[quote author=shepgti link=topic=176113.msg1651192#msg1651192 date=1293714695

you can get alot of track car for 5k and that one seems a little strong..

Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 30 December 2010, 13:47
Haha, why do my quotes never work???  :laugh:

try using the PREVIEW button first  :wink:

Dammit, beat me!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: JC on 30 December 2010, 13:47
Haha, why do my quotes never work???  :laugh:

try using the PREVIEW button first  :wink:

Dammit, beat me!

as per norm for a mk3 owner  :kiss:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 13:48
sorry, but i lol'd at this whole thread - and welcome to the world of mk3 slating and people saying what they see. . . . . .  .

and remember

(http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/Themes/2_SlickPro_Graphite/images/newlogo3.jpg)

Meh, he wasn't even getting a mk3 style slating but in the end he asked for it!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: JC on 30 December 2010, 13:49
sorry, but i lol'd at this whole thread - and welcome to the world of mk3 slating and people saying what they see. . . . . .  .

and remember

(http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/Themes/2_SlickPro_Graphite/images/newlogo3.jpg)

Meh, he wasn't even getting a mk3 style slating but in the end he asked for it!

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Please sir, can i have a slating  . . . . . . .  .

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 13:52
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Please sir, can i have a slating  . . . . . . .  .

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

But not quite as politely as that.   :grin:


oh hang on, sorry is that you asking for one now?  :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 30 December 2010, 13:55
Haha, why do my quotes never work???  :laugh:

try using the PREVIEW button first  :wink:

Dammit, beat me!

as per norm for a mk3 owner  :kiss:

The tide was against me  :angry:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 15:01
i have found a file with recipets its had =
magnex stainless steel exaust £160
valve lifters x 12 £82
ebc green stuff pads £61
thermostat £20
housing £29
headgasket £54
head bolts £90
other gaskets £21
seals £8
tensioner £38
chain £39
guide £13
timing chain £39
tentioner £25
rear wishbone bushes £15
temp sender £30
oil + fuel filter £13
repset £80 ?????????????????
hose £78 ?????????????????????
vr lead set £69
chain runner £29
dizzy cap £13
plug vr x6 £27
oil seal £14
matrix £41
valves polished £no price
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: robz on 30 December 2010, 15:06
bargain, supercharge happyness next then!!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 15:07
How old are the receipts? It seems it's been really well serviced which is a good thing.  Nothing there however justifies the claimed HP. Also what's the mileage of the motor?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 15:08
robz what money do you think im looking at to supercharge it start to finish ?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 15:19
yes your right no proof to suport the power ! its done 140,000 the guy i bought it from told me it had a full engine rebuild ! not saying i belived him but driving it i knew it didnt have 140,000 on the clock with out the engine being rebuilt as it drives perfect,idles right, doesnt hunt,revs right, no flat spots,no smoke ect ect ! anyway forget my claim of 218bhp witch i saw with my own eyes !!!!!! i will get it back on the rollers and take a pic of the screen and the print out,not that it matters anyway as i am going to supercharge it !
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 15:25
yes your right no proof to suport the power ! its done 140,000 the guy i bought it from told me it had a full engine rebuild ! not saying i belived him but driving it i knew it didnt have 140,000 on the clock with out the engine being rebuilt as it drives perfect,idles right, doesnt hunt,revs right, no flat spots,no smoke ect ect ! anyway forget my claim of 218bhp witch i saw with my own eyes !!!!!! i will get it back on the rollers and take a pic of the screen and the print out,not that it matters anyway as i am going to supercharge it !

Ah but that is proof of an engine rebuild though at least... New timing chain etc is one of the major service items so with this done and the other stuff too it should be pretty solid then.   You keep asking robs for a price on your supercharger work... Did you not check out the link I posted....

PS.. I don't need photographic proof of a printout, just advising you on the facts of your engine from the information you provide.  This printout you already have, is this power at the wheels or the flywheel?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 15:47
yea i checked out the links you sent me ! good site couldnt work it out properly ! £4000 is what i made of it ??? i need it explained to me in spastic terms ? and was wandering if you guys know off the top of your heads what price i will need to pay all in ? again i am a bit thick so not sure if the 218bhp was at the fly wheel or the wheels
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 15:57
yea i checked out the links you sent me ! good site couldnt work it out properly ! £4000 is what i made of it ??? i need it explained to me in spastic terms ? and was wandering if you guys know off the top of your heads what price i will need to pay all in ? again i am a bit thick so not sure if the 218bhp was at the fly wheel or the wheels

That's correct, 2.5k for the stage 1 250bhp kit not fitted but comes with instructions.  You would have to get a quote for fitting it appears.  Then stage 2 and 3 kits are upgrades from stage 1 to achieve the 305bhp output.

You would need to speak to them about going straight to stage 3 and they would probably want to give the engine a once over to ensure it can take it, (not saying it couldn't).  4k does sound about right though no matter where you take it.  It's not going to be cheap.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Cunning stunT on 30 December 2010, 17:03
1st things 1st, you haven't got 218bhp, however the car probably has a printout from jabbasport..  :rolleyes:

secondly if you want to charge your car its gonna cost you around 4 grand seen as you won't be doing the job yourself!!

Lastly, the reason everyone is poking fun at you is because of your willingness to hold onto that bhp figure of 218bhp!!
with the mods done to your car its a simple fact it would not make that figure unless you believe the old " 10bhp for filter, 15bp
for exhaust, 10 bhp for decat etc etc"

My advice to you is to just disregard the 218bhp figure and absorb the tips these guys give you without thinking its a personal attack!!
No ones out to have a dig at you we are all just realists!! Hope you achieve what you are looking for with your car though!!   :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Deano2711 on 30 December 2010, 17:08
1st things 1st, you haven't got 218bhp, however the car probably has a printout from jabbasport..  :rolleyes:


Not being funny but if the original op is not sure what mods the car has then you cannot say that the car is not achieving 218bhp. A lot of mods (i.e. chips) cannot be seen and would increase the bhp. The safest way to end the debate is to try a different rolling road but no one can say the car is not running 218bhp without either thoroughly examining the car or knowing what has been done.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Cunning stunT on 30 December 2010, 17:37
i have found a file with recipets its had =
magnex stainless steel exaust £160
valve lifters x 12 £82
ebc green stuff pads £61
thermostat £20
housing £29
headgasket £54
head bolts £90
other gaskets £21
seals £8
tensioner £38
chain £39
guide £13
timing chain £39
tentioner £25
rear wishbone bushes £15
temp sender £30
oil + fuel filter £13
repset £80 ?????????????????
hose £78 ?????????????????????
vr lead set £69
chain runner £29
dizzy cap £13
plug vr x6 £27
oil seal £14
matrix £41
valves polished £no price

He did deano.......  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Guy on 30 December 2010, 17:58
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/2743486140_b6ce838c97.jpg)
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Deano2711 on 30 December 2010, 17:59
If you read the entire thread the op states he does not know what has been done and the list you saw was for the receipts he got with the car. There maybe other mods without receipts. I am not saying the car does run 218 or does not run it either, I am saying you cannot be certain as you have no knowledge of the car or what has been done. Personally, I do not believe the car is running 218 bhp but I would not tell the guy his car cannot be running it as I don't know that and neither do you !!!!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 18:02
Lol I don't have a printout, I saw the screen as it was on the rollers, 3 runs 215bhp 221bhp and 218 bhp  so I just went with the middle one ? If this car is not really hitting 218bhp, due to an inaccurate machine then so be it! I will get it back at a different rolling road in a couple of weeks and we will see, if it is alot lower than 218bhp I won't be upset lol I will take it on the chin and smile anyway as the car performs very well ! If however it is 218bhp or more we can all say ok and move on and I will secretly have a big f@@k off smile on my face lol ! Anyway thank u all for the advise ! Greatly appreciated
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 30 December 2010, 18:38
Lol I don't have a printout, I saw the screen as it was on the rollers, 3 runs 215bhp 221bhp and 218 bhp  so I just went with the middle one ? If this car is not really hitting 218bhp, due to an inaccurate machine then so be it! I will get it back at a different rolling road in a couple of weeks and we will see, if it is alot lower than 218bhp I won't be upset lol I will take it on the chin and smile anyway as the car performs very well ! If however it is 218bhp or more we can all say ok and move on and I will secretly have a big f@@k off smile on my face lol ! Anyway thank u all for the advise ! Greatly appreciated

Out of interest, where was the rolling road?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 18:58
Checking if I'm telling porkys are we lol ( torque in Edmonton/ponders end )
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: DazVR6 on 30 December 2010, 19:19
Checking if I'm telling porkys are we lol ( torque in Edmonton/ponders end )

I think the reason he asked was because there are certain well known companies that have set up there rollers to purposely over-read.

As for supercharging yes it is gonna cost about £4000 grand for a drive in drive out job. Personally if i were going to spend that much money then i'd go for a turbo set-up, this leaves alot of room to increase power later.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: jonnypolish on 30 December 2010, 19:22
Hahaha I am NOT surprised that this car has come from my neck of the woods :(
How embarassing :'( HID's are the "thing" here!
Good luck with the build !
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 19:31
The car is from Warrington near liverpool and Manchester and before that I think Maidstone in Kent ! To squash the argument let's just say it's running 175bhp ! Im gonna take it on the track and enjoy it for what it is whatever that is ! Either way I'm gonna have a wicked time ! End of bhp argument ! When the engine gives up from me ragging it round the track then I will have a think what to do next
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 30 December 2010, 19:37
Checking if I'm telling porkys are we lol ( torque in Edmonton/ponders end )

I think the reason he asked was because there are certain well known companies that have set up there rollers to purposely over-read.

Exactly :afro:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 19:42
Thank you all for coming good night and god bless
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: cняis on 30 December 2010, 19:47
i have found a file with recipets its had =
magnex stainless steel exaust £160
valve lifters x 12 £82
ebc green stuff pads £61
thermostat £20
housing £29
headgasket £54
head bolts £90
other gaskets £21
seals £8
tensioner £38
chain £39
guide £13
timing chain £39
tentioner £25
rear wishbone bushes £15
temp sender £30
oil + fuel filter £13
repset £80 ?????????????????
hose £78 ?????????????????????
vr lead set £69
chain runner £29
dizzy cap £13
plug vr x6 £27
oil seal £14
matrix £41
valves polished £no price

Repset is an LUK 3 piece clutch kit

So its had a clutch, and headgasket, timing chains, heater matrix etc... looked after then!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Cunning stunT on 30 December 2010, 20:20
The car is from Warrington near liverpool and Manchester and before that I think Maidstone in Kent ! To squash the argument let's just say it's running 175bhp ! Im gonna take it on the track and enjoy it for what it is whatever that is ! Either way I'm gonna have a wicked time ! End of bhp argument ! When the engine gives up from me ragging it round the track then I will have a think what to do next

Amen to that, have fun dude!!!  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
I'd do track days to in the car but i have a Gsxr 1000 that i have for that!!! If the same applies to bikes as cars...

Get the best rubber you can afford for ur wheels!!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Wayne on 30 December 2010, 20:28
This has to be a late entry for thread of the year.  :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 20:32
Weyhey thread of the year ! I'm a legend I'm my own naive right
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 30 December 2010, 20:40
Good on mmmaattyyg i did always say that if you dont bite then they start to give helpful tips. So we have established that your car is running 700bhp  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:.
Have we managed to find somwhere to do the charger conversion? Just a thought but it is all well slapping a charger on your car but really fast track times are set by cars that have had the correct set up all round???? Supension, camber and breaks etc etc

Also get rid oof the hid's. not only are they annoying (yes they do help you see the road better at night) to other drivers but im sure they weigh more then the standard unit.

Lets remember gents we are trying to help him track spec the car so lets throw all the heavy stuff away  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Cunning stunT on 30 December 2010, 20:42


Lets remember gents we are trying to help him track spec the car so lets throw all the heavy stuff away  :grin:

The engine?  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:hehe
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 30 December 2010, 20:48


Lets remember gents we are trying to help him track spec the car so lets throw all the heavy stuff away  :grin:

The engine?  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:hehe

Theres always one  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 21:01
F@@k it I'm gonna throw the car away and run round the track cause that's how I roll ! I'm a f@@king thread legend ! And by the way the cars running 900bhp at the steering wheel
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 30 December 2010, 21:17
Run around the track naked then you will be lighter  :laugh: :laugh: Maybe slap a supercharger on yourself, force the air through your mouth and stright out your ass, jobs a good un  :laugh: :laugh:
Forgot to say that at least it has had mooney spent on it to keep in good running order, at least when you roll into a garage to do the charger fit it should go on without any hickups!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 21:24
its more likely to roll into the tyre wall than a garage !!!!! if any of you are locallish come and see it go round brands hatch ! not confirmed but i think 29th of jan ! all day, open pit......... i have a camera crew coming to watch me write it off so if you have better things to do than stand by the edge of the track watching my 900bhp vr6 go round the track once then into a tyre wall fear not i will make sure the top gear camera crew catch it all on vid and ill be sure to upload my vid so you can all have a w@nk over my vr6 hanging out of a tyre wall......................
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 30 December 2010, 21:28
its more likely to roll into the tyre wall than a garage !!!!! if any of you are locallish come and see it go round brands hatch ! not confirmed but i think 29th of jan ! all day, open pit......... i have a camera crew coming to watch me write it off so if you have better things to do than stand by the edge of the track watching my 900bhp vr6 go round the track once then into a tyre wall fear not i will make sure the top gear camera crew catch it all on vid and ill be sure to upload my vid so you can all have a w@nk over my vr6 hanging out of a tyre wall......................

Contender for tw@t of the year as well  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Seanl on 30 December 2010, 21:51
Gotta say I have just read this thread from start to finish and it has made my night! Brilliant!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Cunning stunT on 30 December 2010, 21:52
defo up there for thread of the year!!  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 December 2010, 21:53
13 pages of complete sh!t  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 21:57
audia8 if you dont like what you reading how about you pop round to mine ill give you a good foot rub while you suck my balls ............. do one !
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 December 2010, 21:59
audia8 if you dont like what you reading how about you pop round to mine ill give you a good foot rub while you suck my balls ............. do one !

That sounds like an offer i can't refuse.
I do hope that you're prepared to reciprocate  :kiss:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 22:01
AUDIA8QUATTRO I COULDNT HELP NOTICING YOUR NAME !!!!!!! 13 LETTERS OF COMPLETE sh!t
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 December 2010, 22:02
Shhhhhhhh

No need to shout.

I think you have got a serious sense of humour failure young man  :tongue:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 30 December 2010, 22:04
Here we go again  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 December 2010, 22:05
We can't help that bloke is a complete retard  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 22:08
IM NOT RETARDED ! MY MUM SAYS IM JUST SPEICIAL
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 December 2010, 22:09
On a more serious note, i do really like the vr6, i owned one for 4 years.
Good luck modding yours.
But this thread has probably gone on for too long  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 30 December 2010, 22:10
IM NOT RETARDED ! MY MUM SAYS IM JUST SPEICIAL

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: looks like there is love in the air here tonight  :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 30 December 2010, 22:30
This is like that bloke with the white/red wheels all over again  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 30 December 2010, 22:34
This is like that bloke with the white/red wheels all over again  :grin:

 :laugh: :laugh: you remember that one too, what was it called again, santa's sledge  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Wayne on 30 December 2010, 23:06
I am starting to wonder is the op safe to be walking the streets.  :huh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 23:24
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/golf1-1.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/golf2.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/golf3.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/golf4.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/golf5.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/golf6.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/m3.jpg)
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 30 December 2010, 23:32
TBH that car looks far to good to be ripped apart and crashed on a track  :undecided:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Chris-White on 30 December 2010, 23:33
FYI, standard vr TORQUE is just over 221Nm.......


although i cant see why a well looked after vr with the shown mods / servicing plus a set of cams and a c2 chip shouldnt make 220 bhp?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 23:39
oh god dont start again ! and yes the car has been ripped apart for the track and is now running 980bhp at the flymo
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 23:42
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/photo4.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/photo5.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/photo6.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/photo7.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/photo8.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/photo12.jpg)(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/photo13.jpg)(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/photo14.jpg)

Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Wayne on 30 December 2010, 23:44
Any real weight saving will be lost when you have a proper cage fitted.

Lol
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Chris-White on 30 December 2010, 23:47
and yes the car has been ripped apart for the track

not really though, i can still see door frames, lots of sound deadening, carpets, leathers, handbrake surround, gear gaitor, front speakers, a spare wheel well, a sunroof.

c'mon man, you could save at least 3kg there.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 30 December 2010, 23:49
wayne you trying to get my nut ??? im gonna just sell the car and by a push bike, ive seen a good one i like, 21 gears 3bhp if i eat my weetabix 2 if i dont ! anyway heres a pic of me and me julie for your viewing pleasure(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/m3-1.jpg)
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Wayne on 30 December 2010, 23:52
Nothing wrong with cycling, you should try it  :smiley:

Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 30 December 2010, 23:53
mate should you not be driving a renault 5 turbo  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: only joking, still think you have done a good job so far with the inside. Where does Julie sit when your driving around????  :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Cunning stunT on 30 December 2010, 23:55
mate should you not be driving a renault 5 turbo  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: only joking, still think you have done a good job so far with the inside. Where does Julie sit when your driving around????  :laugh:

on his lap of course!!  :wink: :wink: :wink:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: shepgti on 30 December 2010, 23:56
Nothing wrong with cycling, you should try it  :smiley:



everything wrong with cycling! they should be banned from the road! bloody things  :angry:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 00:00
me julie dont sit nowhere but in the kitchen shes cooks and then cleans me knob cheese when me get home from a nice drive in me 980bhp vr6 init
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 31 December 2010, 00:02
me julie dont sit nowhere but in the kitchen shes cooks and then cleans me knob cheese when me get home from a nice drive in me 980bhp vr6 init

init, respect, hola bk  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Cunning stunT on 31 December 2010, 00:19
lol a real life Ali G!!! RESTECP!!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 00:27
I'm in bed wid me Julie and she said she's gonna lik me knob if me is lucky so me is hoping dat the lord bless me wid a wicked piece of luck so me Julie cansuck me balls too ! Thank you please
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 31 December 2010, 00:32
Best be praying hard that she can find them first  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 December 2010, 00:53
WTF just happened.  :undecided:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 31 December 2010, 01:01
WTF just happened.  :undecided:

Im not 100% sure but it is getting better and better each reply  :grin:, Think he is now trying to put that 980bhp through his nob  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: NYSoul on 31 December 2010, 02:37
Innit has 2 N's Innit  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: robz on 31 December 2010, 07:18
Give up with this thread!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 December 2010, 08:31
Give up with this thread!

Seemed to have calmed down but then from nowhere all this "viewing pleasure!" sh*t started.... random pic of him and his missus that nobody bothered commenting on so he posted it again.  then the chat just went way over my head.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Guy on 31 December 2010, 09:34
Serious contender for thread of year... The op is taking more bait than a hungry carp...
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Guy on 31 December 2010, 09:37
And you saying 'do one' makes me think you really should be on Ed38 rather than here.. That's the kind of thing they say :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: JC on 31 December 2010, 09:43
does everyone remember when mikester the Gangsta arrived on here  :grin: :laugh: de ja vu ?

oh and gotta use this again

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2iuq2w0.jpg)
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: maisy on 31 December 2010, 09:48
i'm completely lost and i deal with people with "problems" everyday  :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: JC on 31 December 2010, 09:50
i'm completely lost and i deal with people with "problems" everyday  :laugh:

o really  :huh: Can i  PM you  :laugh: :grin: :evil:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: maisy on 31 December 2010, 09:53
i'm completely lost and i deal with people with "problems" everyday  :laugh:

o really  :huh: Can i  PM you  :laugh: :grin: :evil:

can do, but i'm busy with the rest of my clients on here, take a seat i'll call you when i'm free  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: JC on 31 December 2010, 09:54
 :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Wayne on 31 December 2010, 10:00
i'm completely lost and i deal with people with "problems" everyday  :laugh:

o really  :huh: Can i  PM you  :laugh: :grin: :evil:

can do, but i'm busy with the rest of my clients on here, take a seat i'll call you when i'm free  :grin:

lol  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Horney on 31 December 2010, 10:13
Blimey 17 pages, although I think he gets the spirit of the place now and seems to be joining in with the sarcasm.

Maybe see you on a track somewhere in the UK next year.

Nick
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 31 December 2010, 10:28
Blimey 17 pages, although I think he gets the spirit of the place now and seems to be joining in with the sarcasm.

Maybe see you on a track somewhere in the UK next year.

Nick

For your sake I hope not, judging by what we've seen so far i'd imagine that 900bhp 'monster' will be heading towards the armco at a rate of knots within a lap  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 December 2010, 10:30
Blimey 17 pages, although I think he gets the spirit of the place now and seems to be joining in with the sarcasm.

Maybe see you on a track somewhere in the UK next year.

Nick

Maybe not.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: dom on 31 December 2010, 10:46
Blimey 17 pages, although I think he gets the spirit of the place now and seems to be joining in with the sarcasm.

Maybe see you on a track somewhere in the UK next year.

Nick

Maybe not.  :lipsrsealed:

This kind of racing maybe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLLneR-Umw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLLneR-Umw)
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 31 December 2010, 10:56
This kind of racing maybe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLLneR-Umw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLLneR-Umw)

[/quote]

This is awsome, laughing my ass off :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 December 2010, 10:57
boo, can't see as I'm at work.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: shepgti on 31 December 2010, 11:27
boo, can't see as I'm at work.

ali g renault 5 scene :wink:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 December 2010, 11:51
boo, can't see as I'm at work.

ali g renault 5 scene :wink:

Classic
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: sharki786 on 31 December 2010, 12:27
Run around the track naked then you will be lighter  :laugh: :laugh: Maybe slap a supercharger on yourself, force the air through your mouth and stright out your ass, jobs a good un  :laugh: :laugh:
Forgot to say that at least it has had mooney spent on it to keep in good running order, at least when you roll into a garage to do the charger fit it should go on without any hickups!

thats CLASS!!!!  :laugh:

ive just read all 18 pages and all i can WTF???  :grin: iv gota massive grin on my face!
thats what happens when you start on someone who is trying to give you advise.

wayne here knows his sh!t so i wouldnt "diss" him id listen to him.

also that stella bit?  :sick: wft? u beat your misses up?

Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: boneybradley on 31 December 2010, 12:41
I guess when I build my mk4 2.0 track car to race at le-mans........ I won't be asking for advice here!  :sad:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: maisy on 31 December 2010, 13:44
Run around the track naked then you will be lighter  :laugh: :laugh: Maybe slap a supercharger on yourself, force the air through your mouth and stright out your ass, jobs a good un  :laugh: :laugh:
Forgot to say that at least it has had mooney spent on it to keep in good running order, at least when you roll into a garage to do the charger fit it should go on without any hickups!

thats CLASS!!!!  :laugh:

ive just read all 18 pages and all i can WTF???  :grin: iv gota massive grin on my face!
thats what happens when you start on someone who is trying to give you advise.

wayne here knows his sh!t so i wouldnt "diss" him id listen to him.
also that stella bit?  :sick: wft? u beat your misses up?



my thoughts exactly not even funny to joke about  :sick:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Cunning stunT on 31 December 2010, 15:37
I guess when I build my mk4 2.0 track car to race at le-mans........ I won't be asking for advice here!  :sad:

Lmao!!! Best not hehe!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 17:32
ive just had a brilliant idea ! why dont you all climb out of wayne's ass hole and ill tell you all about it.....................................
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 31 December 2010, 17:35
But it is nice and warm in there  :grin: :grin:

On a serious note mate i would delet this thread and start a new one asking for help to track your car  :smiley:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: JC on 31 December 2010, 17:36
ive just had a brilliant idea ! why dont you all climb out of wayne's ass hole and ill tell you all about it.....................................

(http://renegade-cruisers.net/bb/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: robz on 31 December 2010, 18:05
Tell us about what?? Lol
Once the funs over the mods will sort it :D
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 18:13
nothing mate i just wanted you all to take your heads out of king waynes ass hole as its a bit ott how much your all licking his ass ! taste of choclate does it sharki
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: jonnypolish on 31 December 2010, 18:15
Such a tool. You're not even funny.
Think you need a dose of the ban stick imo...

Regards you're a knob.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Guy on 31 December 2010, 18:16
its a good job you don't have a red car with white wheels or you'd be seriously over reacting!  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: sharki786 on 31 December 2010, 18:18
oh yeah one of my faves  :kiss:
gonna do some of this >>>  :tongue:
you want?  :smug:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 18:23
f@cking hell take a chill pil mannnnn im only messing about
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: robz on 31 December 2010, 18:27
Lol
Called respect fella. And Wayne takes abuse from me regularly! ;)
Ed38 > that way!
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: JC on 31 December 2010, 18:30
f@cking hell take a chill pil mannnnn im only messing about

(http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_apr2007/BackPeddlingViolinist.jpg)
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 31 December 2010, 18:31
This is why i said delet this thread and start fresh on a new one, this time though lets keep it to the fact your want to track your vr6??? :smiley:
This one has become a big punch up in a nightclub  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 18:34
i found this little buity and thought you great guys might want to take a look
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1995-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-VR6-GREY-/270685249315?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f06191f23
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 18:46
the point being wayne i too would like to worship you and climb inside your ass hole where its nice and warm
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: robz on 31 December 2010, 18:52
... ok, well i hope ya enjoy your project on your own cos i think you really have excluded yourself off this forum, tried to help but frankly im bored of you trying desperately to be funny.
could be a nice project, lets hope ya dont have any technical queries cos i doubt people are gonna offer advice to ya now, lol!
i give up lads, spectator sport for me now :D
happy new year....
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: maisy on 31 December 2010, 19:01
... ok, well i hope ya enjoy your project on your own cos i think you really have excluded yourself off this forum, tried to help but frankly im bored of you trying desperately to be funny.
could be a nice project, lets hope ya dont have any technical queries cos i doubt people are gonna offer advice to ya now, lol!
i give up lads, spectator sport for me now :D
happy new year....

happy new year :kiss:,
touchy fellow isn't he?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 19:03
hold on wasnt it u guys telling me to chill and stop getting pissed off ?  you lot are proper uptight and sensitive, im not abusing anyone so why the bad attitude !!!!!!

friendly banter and a chat about v-dubs ????????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 19:07
i get it now your all jellos cause my v-dub is running 960bhp
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 19:13
dont hate cause my cars great
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/golf4.jpg)
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: maisy on 31 December 2010, 19:24
ok buddy why do you keep posting photos of your car mostly the same photo? its a vr think we kinda know what one looks like in standard form. oh your right we love your car....how does that make you feel? oh wait i'm off duty  :wink:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: robz on 31 December 2010, 19:25
I like maisy, you can stay :D
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: maisy on 31 December 2010, 19:27
I like maisy, you can stay :D

Thank you, i find this forum very friendly, but then I'm a people person  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Dmonday on 31 December 2010, 19:32
Looks like a standard VR that some idiots ripped apart. I've just read this thread and can't believe how embarrassing some of your childish comments are, think you need to take some of this advice on board, i'm 18 and knew nothing when i originally signed up to this forum yet now i'm doing a VR6 engine conversion and where i get stuck / need advice i know to ask here over any other forum because people are genuinely helpful.

If you don't like the advice here go ask on Edition, see how much you get slated then.

Dan
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 19:40
this is getting a bit silly now ! dan why dont you jump on the bandwagon you joey lol
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: maisy on 31 December 2010, 19:47
stop reacting like a child and let it go...do you always have to have the last word? if you don't like it stop it. its that simple or are you an attention seeker  :huh:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Dmonday on 31 December 2010, 19:56
this is getting a bit silly now ! dan why dont you jump on the bandwagon you joey lol

There's no bandwagon to jump on bud, you're clearly taking all the genuine / helpful advice the wrong way and acting like a 14 year old child with some of your responses.

21 Pages of you acting like a nob, at least that's some form of achievement.

Dan
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Bellend on 31 December 2010, 19:59
18 pages in so far.  :grin:

Innit has 2 N's Innit  :grin:

Excuse me, I'm the lairy teenage chav round here you prick blud.

"INIT" has one "n".

Init.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Alec on 31 December 2010, 20:01
Brilliant thread, just brilliant  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: maisy on 31 December 2010, 20:03
18 pages in so far.  :grin:

Innit has 2 N's Innit  :grin:

Excuse me, I'm the lairy teenage chav round here you prick blud.

"INIT" has one "n".

Init.

simmer down you still retain the teenage chav title  :tongue: think he said he was 30 or something although he doesn't act like it so easy mistake  :grin:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Bellend on 31 December 2010, 20:03
OK read it all.

Must be a white wheel thing.

Plus now he's doing it on purpose.

You know you're at an all time low when Wayne starts wrecking you.  :grin:

This could be a potential for thread of 2010 & 2011.

But I think the other white wheel owning pillock has taken that. Pissed, you couldn't even manage the sh!t award. :afro:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: maisy on 31 December 2010, 20:04
now its 22 pages  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Bellend on 31 December 2010, 20:04
18 pages in so far.  :grin:

Innit has 2 N's Innit  :grin:

Excuse me, I'm the lairy teenage chav round here you prick blud.

"INIT" has one "n".

Init.

simmer down you still retain the teenage chav title  :tongue: think he said he was 30 or something although he doesn't act like it so easy mistake  :grin:

Aslong as he knows his place you feel me?

I'm also from south London which = chav capital. North London is just black (no racism here).

My homebei AlanD can back me init.
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 20:25
I knew it would be long before the racism come into it ! I'm gonna shut up now ! I'm gonna do my track day and then let you know how it went and then if anyone wants. To give me  a bit of advise then great if not I wish u all a happy new year
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: maisy on 31 December 2010, 20:32
I knew it would be long before the racism come into it ! I'm gonna shut up now ! I'm gonna do my track day and then let you know how it went and then if anyone wants. To give me  a bit of advise then great if not I wish u all a happy new year

there you go again :rolleyes: ffs the forum is a really really mixed race forum, get a grip on reality fella, i've only been around a short time and figured that out.

here you go

go on take the piss out of any of my cars (in my sig) and i'll show you how to react like a grown up....or did you want/expect to hear..oh matt your car is mint its soooo fecking brilliant i want to lick it all over....will you please swap your lovely sweet ride for mine plus a million pounds in cash oh matt your beautiful and so is your wife your sooo perfect..???? feel better now immaculate matt ??
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: robz on 31 December 2010, 20:35
:D
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 31 December 2010, 21:05
At the end of the day whop are we to rip this guy apart just cause he wants to makes his vr better? :huh: Yes he has got a short fuse but then again we have known this since page 2 and yet we all seem to be plucking at his strings.
Seriouslt mate i have told you this twice now but delet this thread, it has totally gone off the point and has now turned into a slagging match.

Yes we all come from different back grounds and we all have good advice to give but this whole thread has gone crazy and out of control, like i said tajke my advice and delet this and start a new one but this time ask for advice, nobody will give you sh!t asking for good advice????

Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 December 2010, 21:13
how do i delete it ?
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: richw911 on 31 December 2010, 21:19
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/richw911/forum/watchdrama8jm.gif)
Title: Re: >>> vr6 <<< golf mk3 220bhp 0 - 60 = 6 seconds
Post by: Peej1981 on 31 December 2010, 21:22
Ok first thing is go to the bottom of the page on the thread and you will see a button saying lock thread, click that and then nobody can carry on posting.

Then start a new thread but this time like i said just ask direct questions and even if somebody gives you sh*t then just remember it is your car, your business and you will have the last laugh when you are rolling around in a smart vrt or vrs  :grin: