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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: harvey183 on 14 December 2010, 18:55
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Hi all,
Have already made a post in the off topic section about my dilemma!
Seriously thinking about getting a 3dr manual edition 30 now after steve and some other good words!
Really intrested to hear owners views..........
common problems?
Would you have another one?
experiences good or bad?
Does it make your pulse race? (the car that is!) :evil:
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Hi Harvey, i have had my ed30 since new (march 2007) and i still look forward to taking it for a drive. I only use the car at weekends, but always look for any excuse. No regrets in my purchase, and tbh, i am struggling to think of any other car i would change up to. A Rocco R is tempting though. Great acceleration, especially top end leptons. If driven normally, mpg is mid 30's. Feels really stable at any speed and handles fine for me. It is a bit more exclusive than a gti, but it looks a bit better imo, as the skirts & bumpers are get colour coded. I find it is a bit more stealthy as well, as it can look like other golfs with coded bits.
To date, the only issue i have had was a faulty air con compressor, which was replaced under warranty. Sticking door lock was solved with some oil spray.
great car, go for it.
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Harvey stop messing around and go buy an Ed30 mate , its a great car :grin:
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Buy one, thats going to be my next car. Can't see how you can go wrong the standard GTI is a great car so the Edition 30 is only going to be better and the power potential it has is awesome.
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Too nuch lag
ragged to death
so nightmare buying used
other than that there ok :evil:
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Too nuch lag
ragged to death
so nightmare buying used
other than that there ok :evil:
add chavvy looks and inevitable crash repair = secondhand 30th anniversary model, nice.
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Harvey - I have a very nice Edition 30 I'm thinking of selling!!
Are you interested??
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Too nuch lag
ragged to death
so nightmare buying used
other than that there ok :evil:
You could say most perfomance cars are ragged , but the TFSI engine is bullit proof :smug:
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( but the TFSI engine is bullit proof )!!!
Rubbish
i think your very mislead by your statement
(no more reliable, actually worse than some other makes of the run of the mill perfomance hatch engines)
for example:
camshaft and cam follower issues
water pump impellers falling off
inlet valve problems
tumble valve issues
dv valve problems
Failed belt idler pulleys
i could go on, but it appears you have been suckered by the typical VW advertising i am afaid :lipsrsealed:
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( but the TFSI engine is bullit proof )!!!
Rubbish
i think your very mislead by your statement
(no more reliable, actually worse than some other makes of the run of the mill perfomance hatch engines)
for example:
camshaft and cam follower issues
water pump impellers falling off
inlet valve problems
tumble valve issues
dv valve problems
Failed belt idler pulleys
i could go on, but it appears you have been suckered by the typical VW advertising i am afaid :lipsrsealed:
Dino, sounds like you have a thing against a Mark 5. Or your a vw Mechanic.
Dont let this put you off the Ed30. Its a superb car and quite well sort after .
Egbutt's just jelous he didnt buy an Ed30 when they were out new when he bought his Std run of the Mill GTi :lipsrsealed:
Dsg would be my 1st choice though over transmission type.
Ive owned 3 mk5 GTi's, 2 std and the ed30 i have now, i wanted to sell my MK5 std GTI twice!!, and now got what i always deep down wanted, and have absolutely no plans to sell her. Best car ive owned in a country mile.
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VW tech good guess
the amount of rough Ed 30,s we see makes us laugh, they tend to all be bought by the same type of folk, u know the ones that used to buy Subaru,s a year or two ago,
that said I am not knocking them, there are better and worse cars around but very few proper clean ED30,s
just as I say don't believe the hype thou
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What car does dino2 own then as he's on a VW Forum?
I've got an Ed30.......last car was a Merc C220cdi , previous to that a BMW 325 , previous to that a Golf TDI , never had a Subaru though......nor would i ever buy one
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If Dino2 works at a main dealer then hes more likely to be exposed to uncared for Edition 30's, as after all if you truly care about your car you wouldnt use a main dealer. Or at least have it cleaned by them... swirl city :sick:
Of course there are some good main dealers but they are definitely few and far between. :grin:
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(If Dino2 works at a main dealer then hes more likely to be exposed to uncared for Edition 30's)
Not true i think, you would find more them in non franchised network as you cant afford the labor rates.
You want to pay more money for a ED 30 which is after all a de-tuned Audi S3 without 4wd, shonky interior build, and a few extra badges then fine.
My Missus runs a Mk5 GTI so you cant say i'm a hater, sorry.
That said i wouldnt buy one if i didnt work on them.
Just dont make them out to be something there clearly not
(No better or worse than any other hot hatch on sale) :grin:
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It was the K04 turbo that was the edition 30's selling point for me, plus the body coloured bumpers, the reason i didnt go for the S3 was because of the steering feel, which like most newish audi's ive driven is rather vague.
I think its pretty obvious that whatever car you go for second hand there are going to be some fine examples and some complete dogs. There will be rough edition 30's as well as there will be rough S3's kicking about.
The edition 30 is the first car ive owned that i havent got bored with after a year, ive owned it for 3 years now and i have no intention of selling. It all depends what you want from a car, for me the edition 30 is the best complete package for me right now, and for many more years :grin:
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It was the K04 turbo that was the edition 30's selling point for me, plus the body coloured bumpers, the reason i didnt go for the S3 was because of the steering feel, which like most newish audi's ive driven is rather vague.
I think its pretty obvious that whatever car you go for second hand there are going to be some fine examples and some complete dogs. There will be rough edition 30's as well as there will be rough S3's kicking about.
The edition 30 is the first car ive owned that i havent got bored with after a year, ive owned it for 3 years now and i have no intention of selling. It all depends what you want from a car, for me the edition 30 is the best complete package for me right now, and for many more years :grin:
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and after the care my car never gets apon having service work done at my local vw dealer, they have so far had to pay for paint repairs, a brand new pescara alloy, which they again scuffed, oh and ragged the feck out of my car on a "Roadtest" whilst in for service work, yes i can see dino why you say most Ed 30's aernt cared for. :angry: :angry: :angry:
for the record, ive had 2 std Mk5 GTi's and my current ed30, my old Mk5's had more rattles then my babys toy box. My Eddy is the best by a mile of the 3.
....................................And ive Never owned a Subaru :laugh:
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Well I have no experience of the regular GTI but it seems a great car all the same. I bought my ED30 only 2 weeks ago and I love it. It's my daily driver after I have now retired my mk2 8v. My other car is a GT3. That's not to brag just to establish that I have a point of reference.
The ED 30 is a really competent car in my experience so far. Yes it has some lag (hopefully sorted with a map of some sort) and the brakes seem to be all intial feel (over servoed?) and a bit lacking when you really need to scrub some speed off. I love lot's of other stuff like 5 doors, xenons, gear change, light clutch, really useable car & superb combo of fun, speed and practicality, stereo's not bad! On the reletively brief chances I have had in the last two weeks to see what grip is available I have been well impressed with the handling too. I also love the way the steering tightens up as you get some speed piled on. Great car for the money as a used buy. Bit concerned about the mpg tho' although that's probably the newbee ness of the car and the want to plant you foot all the time!
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A 4wd Subaru is much better in this winter weather than any Golf GTI, and often better than heavy tall 4x4s that tend to slide into walls. Give me a Subaru Outback any day in uk snow.
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for the record, ive had 2 std Mk5 GTi's and my current ed30, my old Mk5's had more rattles then my babys toy box. My Eddy is the best by a mile of the 3.
Saint Steve;
let me point this out it's the same car nothing special off the same prodution line, u just got lucky 3rd time of trying l.o.l
You are believing the hype chap ( advertiser's dream) !
Loving the black wheels very nice!
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Dino, these fellows with ED30's that they are keen to sell will always try to rubbish the real GTI.
The fact is the standard car is the best. Less lag, better looking, less traction control, no silly red cotton. If I had liked the anniversary model I would have bought it, but I, like most others, went for the class of the GTI.
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Dino, these fellows with ED30's that they are keen to sell will always try to rubbish the real GTI.
The fact is the standard car is the best. Less lag, better looking, less traction control, no silly red cotton. If I had liked the anniversary model I would have bought it, but I, like most others, went for the class of the GTI.
:grin: :grin:
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:shocked: :laugh: :grin:
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Had a ''standard'' mk5 GTI for 18 months & it went last week for an 08 ED30,best thing i could have done. Not done a great deal of miles due to the crap weather & work etc BUT i love it,if you find a good one get it. :wink:
All the best for the new year all. :smiley:
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Too nuch lag
ragged to death
so nightmare buying used
other than that there ok
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( but the TFSI engine is bullit proof )!!! Rubbish
i think your very mislead by your statement
(no more reliable, actually worse than some other makes of the run of the mill perfomance hatch engines)
for example:
camshaft and cam follower issues
water pump impellers falling off
inlet valve problems
tumble valve issues
dv valve problems
Failed belt idler pulleys
i could go on, but it appears you have been suckered by the typical VW advertising i am afaid
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VW tech good guess
the amount of rough Ed 30,s we see makes us laugh, they tend to all be bought by the same type of folk, u know the ones that used to buy Subaru,s a year or two ago,
that said I am not knocking them, there are better and worse cars around but very few proper clean ED30,s
just as I say don't believe the hype thou
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Not true i think, you would find more them in non franchised network as you cant afford the labor rates.
You want to pay more money for a ED 30 which is after all a de-tuned Audi S3 without 4wd, shonky interior build, and a few extra badges then fine.
My Missus runs a Mk5 GTI so you cant say i'm a hater, sorry.
That said i wouldnt buy one if i didnt work on them.
Just dont make them out to be something there clearly not
(No better or worse than any other hot hatch on sale)
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let me point this out it's the same car nothing special off the same prodution line, u just got lucky 3rd time of trying l.o.l
You are believing the hype chap ( advertiser's dream) !
Loving the black wheels very nice!
Dino2:
This is why i always came to forums. Not the bickering, not the pat on the backs, not the modding, not the blinkered owners but people who work on the cars, see them regular, who know the faults and let everyone know. This imo is what forums should be about, and what they use to be about, not all the other stuff, i wish more people would do it.
(http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/Smileys/newsmileys/drinking.gif)
Off topic, but unlike some i would like to know these type of things, so i know what to maybe look out for in the future. If you know of common faults and issues on the mk6 GTI please feel free to PM me and let me know. Either now or in the future when more come to light.
Thank you
Geoff.
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( but the TFSI engine is bullit proof )!!!
Rubbish
i think your very mislead by your statement
(no more reliable, actually worse than some other makes of the run of the mill perfomance hatch engines)
for example:
camshaft and cam follower issues
water pump impellers falling off
inlet valve problems
tumble valve issues
dv valve problems
Failed belt idler pulleys
i could go on, but it appears you have been suckered by the typical VW advertising i am afaid :lipsrsealed:
okay agree with you maybe not bullit proof,as far your concerned, but got say my old Ed30 was tresured, and looked after did 10k miles never had a problem :wink:
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:huh: I thought your ed30 had the belt idler problem, which made you think the squeek on your GTD was the same thing? or is that what the :wink: ment. :wink: confused
I do find it funny when magazines run a car for 6 month as a long term test or people coment i have had no problems in 10K or short time as that imho is not a test and a true indication but thats just my view.
What i also find funny about magazine reviews etc is how they say how good a new car is then in there used buyers section when they feature it how this wonderful car now has lots of 'watch out for' bits. :grin: But if they do a used car of the year they suddenly forget about the watch out for bits. :grin:
There imo is nothing like getting a DST/MDST view of a car.
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Snoops you are right there was a cambelt tensioner problem which was replaced under warrenty but apart from that a great car , maybe Hurdy needs to comment on this thread?? :wink:
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There are over 50 ed30s for sale on Autotrader right now, starting at £10,000ish.
I think the first time they are overtaken by a Ford RS they go up for sale.
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There are over 50 ed30s for sale on Autotrader right now, starting at £10,000ish.
I think the first time they are overtaken by a Ford RS they go up for sale.
:rolleyes:
another quality post.
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Okay, okay fella's here we go, an honest unbiased account of how good the ED30 is.
As standard the Edition 30 is a decent car, when modified it is a very good car. It will never be the fastest car on the planet due to being fwd, but as it is fwd it is safer at the limit than say a BMW 1 series.
Edition 30's do have some faults, but all cars of all makes do.
Typical faults are...
Cambelt squeal when cold, this can be sorted under warranty and if the car is outside warranty the cambelt, water pump and tensioner are changed at 4 yrs anyway - cost £300-400. I deliberately ran mine for a full 3.5 yrs without changing and it had the squeal at around 3yrs old. I was putting 440bhp and 510lbft through the car and the belt was still going strong when I sold it, so it isn't really a dealbreaker when buying a car.
Cam follower issues. As long as you chack it annually then there should not be any issues with it. Edition 30's tend to have the 2 piece cam, which isn't prone to wearing the cam follower as much as the single piece ones in the early GTI's.
Creaky steering wheel column. Not a big issue on the ED30, but on the early GTI's was an issue and subject to quite a few warranty claims.
Front brakes - On both the GTI and the ED30 are woefully underpowered for the car. VW should have really at least matched the front brakes of the R32 with them or specified better pads.
Suspension. As standard the ED30 suspension can be a little crashy on uneven roads. It is still way better than most other makes of hot hatches (Astra VXR and R26R are big culprits for poor comfort through the suspension). This is one area that I thought the standard GTI seemed better in. It maybe subjective as everyone tells me that the suspension is exactly the same, but I'm still even now not 100% that they REALLY are!
Turbo lag. Again the standard GTI is better in this department than the ED30. There isn't much in it, but I can tell the difference. A remapped GTI is a little belter and would be preferable over a standard ED30 in performance if that is all you wanted to do.
DSG issues - this is probably one of the most contentious issues for any VW golf MKV. There have been numerous faults with the DSG and if they occur out of warranty (as many now are) they can prove very costly as VW still insist on replacing the whole gearbox or the whole mechatronics unit instead of allowing individual parts to be replaced. The new DSG units in the MKVI and Audi's are second generation and not prone to as many failures as the 6 speed version, but are still relatively new, so issues may take a while to turn up.
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Okay, okay fella's here we go, an honest unbiased account of how good the ED30 is.
As standard the Edition 30 is a decent car, when modified it is a very good car. It will never be the fastest car on the planet due to being fwd, but as it is fwd it is safer at the limit than say a BMW 1 series.
Edition 30's do have some faults, but all cars of all makes do.
Typical faults are...
Cambelt squeal when cold, this can be sorted under warranty and if the car is outside warranty the cambelt, water pump and tensioner are changed at 4 yrs anyway - cost £300-400. I deliberately ran mine for a full 3.5 yrs without changing and it had the squeal at around 3yrs old. I was putting 440bhp and 510lbft through the car and the belt was still going strong when I sold it, so it isn't really a dealbreaker when buying a car.
Cam follower issues. As long as you chack it annually then there should not be any issues with it. Edition 30's tend to have the 2 piece cam, which isn't prone to wearing the cam follower as much as the single piece ones in the early GTI's.
Creaky steering wheel column. Not a big issue on the ED30, but on the early GTI's was an issue and subject to quite a few warranty claims.
Front brakes - On both the GTI and the ED30 are woefully underpowered for the car. VW should have really at least matched the front brakes of the R32 with them or specified better pads.
Suspension. As standard the ED30 suspension can be a little crashy on uneven roads. It is still way better than most other makes of hot hatches (Astra VXR and R26R are big culprits for poor comfort through the suspension). This is one area that I thought the standard GTI seemed better in. It maybe subjective as everyone tells me that the suspension is exactly the same, but I'm still even now not 100% that they REALLY are!
Turbo lag. Again the standard GTI is better in this department than the ED30. There isn't much in it, but I can tell the difference. A remapped GTI is a little belter and would be preferable over a standard ED30 in performance if that is all you wanted to do.
DSG issues - this is probably one of the most contentious issues for any VW golf MKV. There have been numerous faults with the DSG and if they occur out of warranty (as many now are) they can prove very costly as VW still insist on replacing the whole gearbox or the whole mechatronics unit instead of allowing individual parts to be replaced. The new DSG units in the MKVI and Audi's are second generation and not prone to as many failures as the 6 speed version, but are still relatively new, so issues may take a while to turn up.
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Too nuch lag
ragged to death
so nightmare buying used
other than that there ok
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( but the TFSI engine is bullit proof )!!! Rubbish
i think your very mislead by your statement
(no more reliable, actually worse than some other makes of the run of the mill perfomance hatch engines)
for example:
camshaft and cam follower issues
water pump impellers falling off
inlet valve problems
tumble valve issues
dv valve problems
Failed belt idler pulleys
i could go on, but it appears you have been suckered by the typical VW advertising i am afaid
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VW tech good guess
the amount of rough Ed 30,s we see makes us laugh, they tend to all be bought by the same type of folk, u know the ones that used to buy Subaru,s a year or two ago,
that said I am not knocking them, there are better and worse cars around but very few proper clean ED30,s
just as I say don't believe the hype thou
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Not true i think, you would find more them in non franchised network as you cant afford the labor rates.
You want to pay more money for a ED 30 which is after all a de-tuned Audi S3 without 4wd, shonky interior build, and a few extra badges then fine.
My Missus runs a Mk5 GTI so you cant say i'm a hater, sorry.
That said i wouldnt buy one if i didnt work on them.
Just dont make them out to be something there clearly not
(No better or worse than any other hot hatch on sale)
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let me point this out it's the same car nothing special off the same prodution line, u just got lucky 3rd time of trying l.o.l
You are believing the hype chap ( advertiser's dream) !
Loving the black wheels very nice!
Dino2:
This is why i always came to forums. Not the bickering, not the pat on the backs, not the modding, not the blinkered owners but people who work on the cars, see them regular, who know the faults and let everyone know. This imo is what forums should be about, and what they use to be about, not all the other stuff, i wish more people would do it.
(http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/Smileys/newsmileys/drinking.gif)
Off topic, but unlike some i would like to know these type of things, so i know what to maybe look out for in the future. If you know of common faults and issues on the mk6 GTI please feel free to PM me and let me know. Either now or in the future when more come to light.
Thank you
Geoff.
x1 :wink:
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Exit left Ed30 show-offs after Hurdys post.
Not a sniff of them now. :grin:
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Exit left Ed30 show-offs after Hurdys post.
Not a sniff of them now. :grin:
.........yet more bull s**t from the great man. :smug:
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I haven't been on this site for some time due to one thing or another, but thought I would have a quick butchers as I'm about to put my Ed30 on the market.
I can honestly say the Ed30 is the best car I have ever had and I still get a smile out of driving it. I can not say how much better it is, if at all from the standard GTI as although I have driven the GTI I haven't owned one so am not qualified to compare. I have however had a number of high performance cars in the past including a 911, but the Ed30 wins hands down due to its practicality, subtlety and accessable performance as well as the :cool: stats I can get on the climate display such as oil temp and true speed - yes I'm easily pleased :grin:. I can honestly say I have never really noticed much in the way of turbo lag. The Fiat Coupe Turbo I owned from new was another matter............ :evil:
Finally, before you all ask, I just fancy a change after 3 and a half years ownership. If I could afford the new car and keep the Ed30 I would :cry:
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Nice to see an old poster hully!!
Welcome back
Nice to see you still have the eddy.
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Nice to see an old poster hully!!
Welcome back
Nice to see you still have the eddy.
Thanks Steve, I know I should have been on here more than once in the last 3 years or so! Unfortunately she has to go, but it has been brilliant. :smiley:
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I bought a new red dsg ED30 in may 2008 i have only 15,000 miles on it. i have never raked it to death i have never even used the launch control it has been a fantastic car no trouble with it at all
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Exit left Ed30 show-offs after Hurdys post.
Not a sniff of them now. :grin:
Passes shovel to Egbert :laugh:
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I bought a new red dsg ED30 in may 2008 i have only 15,000 miles on it. i have never raked it to death i have never even used the launch control it has been a fantastic car no trouble with it at all
Great choice of car Percy, although I'm a tad biased :wink:
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Autocar in 2008...
Golf GTI *****
Golf Ed30 ****
Because of turbo lag and harsh supension.
Just buy a real GTI Mr OP and bluefin it.
It's a no brainer :rolleyes:
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Autocar in 2008...
Golf GTI *****
Golf Ed30 ****
Because of turbo lag and harsh supension.
Just buy a real GTI Mr OP and bluefin it.
It's a no brainer :rolleyes:
.........thought the ED 30 & ''standard'' GTI had the same suspension set up?.
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Here's what Hurdy said about his Ed30's suspension..."Suspension. As standard the ED30 suspension can be a little crashy on uneven roads. This is one area that I thought the standard GTI seemed better in. It maybe subjective as everyone tells me that the suspension is exactly the same, but I'm still even now not 100% that they REALLY are!"
The same was said by Autocar on their long term test, sorry.
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Whilst I try to maintain a neutral point of view, stating that I have not owned both cars so am not liable to comment, I see you have no such qualms Egbutt. Do I detect an ever so slightly envious tone as you 'just' have a standard GTI? :evil:
Rather than trying to put down the Ed30 all the time surely we should be agreeing that both the GTI and the Ed30 are great cars.
Before deciding on the Ed30 I test drove both the standard GTI and R32 (too heavy nose and the weight penalty of the 4-wheel drive meant that if anything it was slower than the Ed30 - probably start another debate here!!) :grin: but preferred the Ed30 due to its exclusivity and added performance.
Whilst I'm on my high chair, I'm not even going to comment about the person who claimed all Ed30s are driven by ex-Scooby drivers and are thrashed to within an inch of their life. To say I take offense to that is somewhat of an understatement......... :angry:
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I like to inform any potential owners of GTI's that the standard model is the best, so no need to shell out on the ugly sister.
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I like to inform any potential owners of GTI's that the standard model is the best, so no need to shell out on the ugly sister.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Aren't they the same body, so surely if the Ed30 is ugly then............ :laugh:
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The coloured-in bumpers give the Ed30 a big fat rear, like a Harlepool lass on a Friday night.
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Fat girls try harder.
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Fat girls try harder.
Buy a Ford Focus ST
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Why would you do that though? Why Why WHY !?
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The coloured-in bumpers give the Ed30 a big fat rear, like a Harlepool lass on a Friday night.
:laugh: Class - each to their own, but personally I don't like the black rear bumper/side skirts and front splitter on the GTI as it looks as if they couldn't be bothered to finish the job and give them a nice lick of paint to match the rest of the car.... :smug:
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The coloured-in bumpers give the Ed30 a big fat rear, like a Harlepool lass on a Friday night.
:laugh: Class - each to their own, but personally I don't like the black rear bumper/side skirts and front splitter on the GTI as it looks as if they couldn't be bothered to finish the job and give them a nice lick of paint to match the rest of the car.... :smug:
Why is your ED30 up for sale?
Turbo lag, harsh ride or Focus RS's?
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Dont you EVER get bored of baiting? :rolleyes:
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I had a 3DR Manual Steel Grey Ed30 for over 2 years.
The car was great, apart from the brakes, utter shyte! sorted with some S3 Front and rears.
I mapped the car with Superchips, and it was the worst thing I did, it came off after 150miles. I never mapped again, standard power delivery IMO was far better than the SC BF offering.
My car had a few warranty claims, creaking seat base, Dual mass Flywheel and a steering rack, I don't think these are just attributable to the Ed30.
I have never driven a KO3 Gti, so can't comment. Ed30's on forums seem to command a far higher price than on Autotrader/PH. As Hurdy alludes to, DSG's are at times temperamental, warranty is a must.
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The coloured-in bumpers give the Ed30 a big fat rear, like a Harlepool lass on a Friday night.
:laugh: Class - each to their own, but personally I don't like the black rear bumper/side skirts and front splitter on the GTI as it looks as if they couldn't be bothered to finish the job and give them a nice lick of paint to match the rest of the car.... :smug:
Why is your ED30 up for sale?
Turbo lag, harsh ride or Focus RS's?
Oh Egbert, if only you read my posts properly. :rolleyes: I've had the car for nearly 4 years and its been great; it's just time for a change and have something completely different and to be fair I usually change my car every 2-3 years, so this has been an exception.
Lets put the argument to bed and just say if the Ed30 and GTI were both the same price I'm sure most people would plump for the Ed30 - you'd be mad not to, extra power, better tirm, golf ball gear knob, oh the list is endless! :grin:
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The coloured-in bumpers give the Ed30 a big fat rear, like a Harlepool lass on a Friday night.
:laugh: Class - each to their own, but personally I don't like the black rear bumper/side skirts and front splitter on the GTI as it looks as if they couldn't be bothered to finish the job and give them a nice lick of paint to match the rest of the car.... :smug:
I do like the Ed30 and may get one next, the only thing I don't like is the fact that everything is colour coded. It makes the rear look too similar to other models. Don't get me wrong still a great car, I just prefer the look of the trim on the GTI.
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The coloured-in bumpers give the Ed30 a big fat rear, like a Harlepool lass on a Friday night.
As apposed to the beautiful, un-finished plastic-look back bumber on the standard GTI, that countless GTI owners have colour coded? :rolleyes:
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Having had the ''standard'' mk5 GTI & now the proud owner of an Edition 30 have to say the ED 30 is what the GTI should have been from launch. Part heated leather seats, fully colour coded body work & great alloys :cool: (never did like Monza alloys) & the extra power of course.Love it. :smug:
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The only special edition I would consider is the Pirelli.
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The only special edition I would consider is the Pirelli.
why?? It's the same car except the alloys and yellow stitching :rolleyes:
Less of them isn't a reason to prefer as it has the same Lard arse rear as the eddy as you call it.
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The only special edition I would consider is the Pirelli.
why?? It's the same car except the alloys and yellow stitching :rolleyes:
Yellow stitching :sick: and not very nice alloys IMO :sick:
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The only special edition I would consider is the Pirelli.
Less of them isn't a reason to prefer as it has the same Lard arse rear as the eddy as you call it
:grin: :grin:
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The owners seem decent chaps.
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NOSH NOSH NOSH NOSH NOSH!!!
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The owners seem decent chaps.
:D :D :D :D :D
That made me wee myself a little bit
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Hmm MK5 GTI or ED30??
imo I would go with ED30 simply down to the fact it does look better than the GTI. Yes the lag is a bit of a problem... but a remap does help on this front. The problem then seems to be the little ESP light on the dash that wants to light up at every opportunity. So in this case if possible would i opt for a GTI with the ED30 looks and a remap??? No.... I would get an R32 because its better than both :laugh: :laugh:
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No.... I would get an R32 because its slower and heavier than both :laugh: :laugh:
Oh really? :grin:
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No.... I would get an R32 because its slower and heavier than both :laugh: :laugh:
Oh really? :grin:
:laugh: :laugh:
I see what you done there :evil:
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No.... I would get an R32 because its slower and heavier than both :laugh: :laugh:
Oh really? :grin:
:laugh: :laugh:
I see what you done there :evil:
Been there done the argument. the R32 is quicker than a gti and ed30 fact. you both drive inferior golf's... deal with it. i have :wink: :laugh:
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No.... I would get an R32 because its slower and heavier than both :laugh: :laugh:
Oh really? :grin:
:laugh: :laugh:
I see what you done there :evil:
Been there done the argument. the R32 is quicker than a gti and ed30 fact. you both drive inferior golf's... deal with it. i have :wink: :laugh:
What fact? In what test? 0-40mph?
R32 would be quicker than a standard GTI (just) once rolling. But I very much doubt it will be the same result against the ED30. :wink: Better power/weight, less transmission losses, simple physics my friend..
Out of interest, how does your Mk6 compare with your old R32 in a straight line, both when stock and mapped?
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R32 is just having a laugh.
The R32 was always the slowest of the three, R32, ED3o or bluefinned GTI.
Too heavy at the front, poor handling, only good for traffic lights, not corners.
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R32 is just having a laugh.
The R32 was always the slowest of the three, R32, ED3o or bluefinned GTI.
Too heavy at the front, poor handling, only good for traffic lights, not corners.
You really dont need any help making an idiot of yourself do you nosher :laugh:
TG lap times
ED30 time was 1.32.6
standard GTI 1.33.7
R32.... drum roll please......
130.04 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
well over 3 sec on a std gti and over 2 secs on an ED30 (0.4 sec slower than an Scooby STI)
So despite what many GTI/ED30 owners will tell you... the R32 is the quickest mk5 bar none. And as a remapped GTI owner I will admit that the GTI remapped may well be quicker on a straight road (because all roads are straight of course). But throw a few corners in and the R32 will murder the GTI, its as simple as that. Power is nothing without control. :cool:
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It's official, the R32 is quickest, Top Gear says so.... :grin: I've just conducted a similar test with my Scaletric and you're right, the R32 is quicker (especially in the corners)..
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It's official the R32 is quickest, Top Gear says so.... :grin: I've just conducted a similar test with my Scaletric and you're right, the R32 is quicker (especially in the corners)..
Haha brilliant! :grin: :grin:
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Generally i have found those people who buy four wheel driven cars(not 4x4's) lack in the driving skills department and have to have the help from the extra traction :grin:
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It's official, the R32 is quickest, Top Gear says so.... :grin: I've just conducted a similar test with my Scaletric and you're right, the R32 is quicker (especially in the corners)..
careful pal... we all know where you end up with your "tests" :laugh: :wink:
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Generally i have found those people who buy four wheel driven cars(not 4x4's) lack in the driving skills department and have to have the help from the extra traction :grin:
I drive a GTI... here is your "ticket" to the FAIL club. :cool:
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It's official the R32 is quickest, Top Gear says so.... :grin: I've just conducted a similar test with my Scaletric and you're right, the R32 is quicker (especially in the corners)..
Haha brilliant! :grin: :grin:
3 Cars, 1 set distance and a stopwatch. its all so complicated.
the top test track is only a small track so over a 70 lap race the GTI & ED30 would get lapped twice.
hows that for HAHA!! :laugh: :laugh: :wink:
p.s. both cars were driven by the stig, and as we know ben collins is a pretty good driver having beaten Barrichellos round the same track.
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It's official the R32 is quickest, Top Gear says so.... :grin: I've just conducted a similar test with my Scaletric and you're right, the R32 is quicker (especially in the corners)..
Haha brilliant! :grin: :grin:
3 Cars, 1 set distance and a stopwatch. its all so complicated.
the top test track is only a small track so over a 70 lap race the GTI & ED30 would get lapped twice.
hows that for HAHA!! :laugh: :laugh: :wink:
p.s. both cars were driven by the stig, and as we know ben collins is a pretty good driver having beaten Barrichellos round the same track.
.... on different days in different conditions with a added pinch of Top Gear controvesy.. :wink: Anyway, I think most were reffering to out right performance as apposed to round a track tbh..
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It's official the R32 is quickest, Top Gear says so.... :grin: I've just conducted a similar test with my Scaletric and you're right, the R32 is quicker (especially in the corners)..
Haha brilliant! :grin: :grin:
3 Cars, 1 set distance and a stopwatch. its all so complicated.
the top test track is only a small track so over a 70 lap race the GTI & ED30 would get lapped twice.
hows that for HAHA!! :laugh: :laugh: :wink:
p.s. both cars were driven by the stig, and as we know ben collins is a pretty good driver having beaten Barrichellos round the same track.
.... on different days in different conditions with a added pinch of Top Gear controvesy.. :wink: Anyway, I think most were reffering to out right performance as apposed to round a track tbh..
different days granted. but very similar condition. I would normally agree with you on the controversy front, but they tested the R32 before the ED30, and they didnt mention the GTI lap times iirc as they compared it to the 130i.
My GTI is very quick in the right conditions.. but thats just it, they have to be the right conditions. Usually this quickness only stands in a straight line anyway. Where as the R32 despite being heavier did not understeer like the GTI does. It simply cannot get the same levels of grip the R32 could.. despite having to drive both in a slightly different manner.
Im not trying belittle the GTI (i have one ffs) but there are so many on here that are blinded by this GTI is quicker stuff its a joke. This thread was started by nosher ffs!!
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Im not trying belittle the GTI (i have one ffs) but there are so many on here that are blinded by this GTI is quicker stuff its a joke. This thread was started by nosher ffs!!
Say no more... :grin:
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Im not trying belittle the GTI (i have one ffs) but there are so many on here that are blinded by this GTI is quicker stuff its a joke. This thread was started by nosher ffs!!
Say no more... :grin:
For a change it wasn't actually.......
The other sh!te in here was though :grin: :grin:
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Im not trying belittle the GTI (i have one ffs) but there are so many on here that are blinded by this GTI is quicker stuff its a joke. This thread was started by nosher ffs!!
Say no more... :grin:
For a change it wasn't actually.......
The other sh!te in here was though :grin: :grin:
Its called the Nosher effect :laugh:
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Im not trying belittle the GTI (i have one ffs) but there are so many on here that are blinded by this GTI is quicker stuff its a joke. This thread was started by nosher ffs!!
Say no more... :grin:
For a change it wasn't actually.......
The other sh!te in here was though :grin: :grin:
I stand corrected... but my comments on him stand.. hes still a cnut
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Get an ED30 with 4wd and say bye bye to the R32, Ed30 and GTI :wink:
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I agree R32 is better to drive and I came out of an ED30. Its not about the straight line speed. The handling is much more planted in the 32, brakes stop harder and I prefer non turbo engine but thats just my honest opinion. Looks better too. Thats a fact :-)
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The R32 is a better looking car and it drives better, sound is addictive but 400 quid tax is why i never bought one, Ed30 was the next best thing to it!! :cool:
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Same here the £400 tax put me off and the mpg......now my ed30's only doing 23!
The sound of the R32 is fantastic though
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Not buying a car because it costs a few hundred more a year to tax :laugh:
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Not even a few hundred its infact £165 and sometimes it is difficult to make a decision , i couldn't decide. I'm sure you have had decisions to make before?
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It's because he knew inside that the ed 30 was really the much better car :evil: :evil:
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Not even a few hundred its infact £165 and sometimes it is difficult to make a decision , i couldn't decide. I'm sure you have had decisions to make before?
£16.50 a month more to tax :rolleyes:
If you said higher fuel costs then fair enough but a one off marginally higher payment being a deciding factor in your purchase is mental. I chose the S3 as it's cheaper to run than an RS4 and just as quick after a map, the fact it had higher tax was irrelevant.
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Get an ED30 with 4wd and say bye bye to the R32, Ed30 and GTI :wink:
problem is you then compromise practicality. no one in their right mind would think of buying a 5dr S3... simply as they are ugly!
the 3dr still looks nice.. the 5dr is just a big boo boo
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Jules..........165 divided by 12 (The amount of months in a year) is £13.75 not £16.50
I wasnt going to buy both was i , so had to choose , whether the tax had anything to do with it is part of the decision making process which we all do every day.
I was looking at spending between 25 and 30k so really the amount of tax was irellevant to me but is to others when it comes to sell it in 4/5 years. So saved a heap of cash , bought a new car for the wife and booked two foreign holidays for this year. Then when i come to buy another car perhaps i might seek your advice! :evil:
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Jules..........165 divided by 12 (The amount of months in a year) is £13.75 not £16.50
I wasnt going to buy both was i , so had to choose , whether the tax had anything to do with it is part of the decision making process which we all do every day.
I was looking at spending between 25 and 30k so really the amount of tax was irellevant to me but is to others when it comes to sell it in 4/5 years. So saved a heap of cash , bought a new car for the wife and booked two foreign holidays for this year. Then when i come to buy another car perhaps i might seek your advice! :evil:
My R32 cost me even less than that, it was the same as a GTI. It made no difference though and i really don't believe someone who looks at an R32 cares about the tax costs.
For me it was 'this sounds awesome' so i bought it