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Title: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: squirrelGTi on 14 December 2010, 12:30
Hi guys,

My local Shell has been closed for about 6 weeks, so i had to fill up with BP Ultimate for that time.

Since filling back up with V-Power again, i've noticed that i'm getting around 3mpg less. At first i thought maybe it was just me, but the last few trips to and from work haven't been as good as when i was using BP juice.

Open to debate.........
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: am1w on 14 December 2010, 13:51
I started using Shell V Power and posted some time ago that my fuel consumption was really terrible. I even took the car to VW for a check-up.

I then changed to BP Ultimate and the engine's fuel effeciency improved very slightly. However, the engine felt a bit rougher. Could be my imagination.

I then went back to Shell V Power, and the fuel effeciency of the engine was slightly worse but the engine felt smoother.

Finally, I tried Total Excellium. I got better fuel economy than with Shell V Power and about the same as that with BP Ultimate. However, I felt that the engine was as smooth as when I used Shell V Power.

I am therefore sticking with Total Excellium 97 RON for the present.

While I agree that this is all very subjective and there are a huge number of variables, I can only go by my own meagre experience.
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: R32UK on 14 December 2010, 14:25
none of that 95/97/98 rubbish for me!!


99 only here :cool:
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: jdjd on 14 December 2010, 14:46
Ultimate is a joke, bp forecourts are always more expensive then shell, 99 ftw Tesco or shell
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: Sam on 14 December 2010, 19:17
I get pretty much the same in my very delicate mk2, brilliant on v power and very good on tesco. f**king sh!te on everything else, BP ultimate dropped 5mpg of my last trip home and made the engine idle slightly weird
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: Sebby on 18 December 2010, 18:53
I've started using Tesco Momentum 99 now. I always used to use V-Power. Seems pretty good!
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: GolfTi on 18 December 2010, 23:42
After filling up with almost exclusively Shell V Power or Tesco 99 I found myself having to fill up at a BP station a few days ago.

Grunt and mpg both disappointing. :sad:
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: am1w on 19 December 2010, 00:45
After filling up with almost exclusively Shell V Power or Tesco 99 I found myself having to fill up at a BP station a few days ago.
Grunt and mpg both disappointing. :sad:

Don't like BP Ultimate.
Poor BP, even their fuel sucks.
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: Khare on 19 December 2010, 00:54
I use either V-power or Tesco Momentum 99, nothing else.

Can't really tell much difference between the two, both in smoothness or MPG, so I go for Tesco's which is cheaper + it gives me nice clubcard points (£14 more and I'll get a Ferrari/formula renault experience day).  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: JonnyG on 19 December 2010, 17:59

A bit of background reading :-

+20bhp more on a Focus RS,  just by upgrading to 99 RON   :o

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/ford/focus-rs/focus-rs-fuel-testing.shtml

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/Fuel_Test_Results_Update.shtml

I stick with Tesco Momentum or Shell V-Power and never use anything else .. I even plan my refuels if going on a long trip away from home  :smiley:
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: javsta on 21 December 2010, 14:36
this maybe a long shot but what is the general consensus on v-power diesel, is it worth the money ????
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: Spartacus on 21 December 2010, 15:17
this maybe a long shot but what is the general consensus on v-power diesel, is it worth the money ????

Personally I always use V Power Diesel in my ML420

My previous ML270 was always more economical on Shell than anything else so just carried on the same.
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: mac7 on 21 December 2010, 15:57
this maybe a long shot but what is the general consensus on v-power diesel, is it worth the money ????

V power diesel is a strange thing - it's just got additives for cleaning the fuel system. This is how it supposedly brings improved performance and economy, by keeping your injectors clean. Any half decent fuel should do this though... personally I think it's just marketing using the V power name to create a 'premium' product. When I had a diesel I tried it but didn't see any benefits. But if you find improvements in economy which offset the additional cost, go for it.

:nerd: Because diesel is compression ignition, you don't want it to have a high octane rating like petrol (which provides resistance to detonation). If I recall, diesel is generally only 15-20 RON. It is more usually rated by cetane content, which affects the delay and rate of ignition.
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 21 December 2010, 16:15
:nerd: Because diesel is compression ignition, you don't want it to have a high octane rating like petrol (which provides resistance to detonation). If I recall, diesel is generally only 15-20 RON. It is more usually rated by cetane content, which affects the delay and rate of ignition.

30-50 Cetane. Octane is a petrol thing :wink:
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: mac7 on 21 December 2010, 16:28
:nerd: Because diesel is compression ignition, you don't want it to have a high octane rating like petrol (which provides resistance to detonation). If I recall, diesel is generally only 15-20 RON. It is more usually rated by cetane content, which affects the delay and rate of ignition.

30-50 Cetane. Octane is a petrol thing :wink:

Yeah, I sort of didn't explain that well enough
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: Khare on 22 December 2010, 20:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQghB4asSnI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQghB4asSnI)

and also, for future reference

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jbcCr2ll3c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jbcCr2ll3c)
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: R32UK on 23 December 2010, 07:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQghB4asSnI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQghB4asSnI)

and also, for future reference

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jbcCr2ll3c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jbcCr2ll3c)


as said before higher octane fuels will give you more power if the engine has knock control.. many older cars dont but people still continue to use the more expensive fuels. A job well done by the marketing men I would say  :wink:
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: The Danno on 23 December 2010, 08:22
You boys wanna try some of this jungle juice!

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc440/thedanno/374.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc440/thedanno/373.jpg)
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: KennyGTI on 23 December 2010, 08:34
Ohhhhh I want to try some of that! Never seen it before up here!

Will your car run ok if mapped to say 97 ron?
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: R32UK on 23 December 2010, 08:37
where? how much?  :grin:
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: Steve30 on 23 December 2010, 08:40
I want some as well ^^^  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: The Danno on 23 December 2010, 08:46
where? how much?  :grin:

That was in the Fatherland, in summer. I spent way too much on it!! The mrs wasn't happy with our £600 fuel bill  :grin:
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: Steve30 on 23 December 2010, 08:48
where? how much?  :grin:

That was in the Fatherland, in summer. I spent way too much on it!! The mrs wasn't happy with our £600 fuel bill  :grin:

Is that an R Danno?
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: The Danno on 23 December 2010, 08:49
where? how much?  :grin:

That was in the Fatherland, in summer. I spent way too much on it!! The mrs wasn't happy with our £600 fuel bill  :grin:

Is that an R Danno?

Yes.
Title: Re: V-power Vs Ultimate
Post by: GolfTi on 23 December 2010, 20:13
I've used that 100 RON stuff a few times. Awesome.

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