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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: denis on 22 November 2010, 13:10

Title: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: denis on 22 November 2010, 13:10
I'm thinking about changing from my nearly 4 year old Mk5 to a Mk6.

I'm very happy with my current car and am only thinking of changing because I want to go auto, otherwise I'd hang onto it as the Mk6 isn't different enough for me to think of changing.

My only real complaint about the Mk5 is the intermittent rattles and the noise at motorway speeds.

I wonder if anyone else who's made a similar change has noticed any improvement on either point with the Mk6.

Cheers.

Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 22 November 2010, 14:11
Wait for the Mk7 personally.

You are right about the differences.I drove the mk6 a few times, and it has a nicer interia tbh and thats abit it. XDS is good aswell.Slighter better mpg by a couple of mpg.

Mk6 is more refined,less wind noise intrusion into the cabin... but on the downside, it has less in driver feel feedback
Rattles are normally loose screws behind the dashboard on the mk5, easy fix and not a finacial reason to sell up.

Mine is nearly 4 years old, and not a single rattle after 50k.

Mk7 should hopefully be a clean slate. And worth trading for, but thats just my oppinion from driving both.

Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Spartacus on 22 November 2010, 14:16
You will find a Mk6 more refined and quieter on the motorway. There is no more wind noise from the mirrors for instance. Tyre noise is also more supressed. I am guessing that a DSG would be smoother still than a manual as well.

Many on here have changes up from the MarkV.

I had no rattles in my MarkV and have no rattles in my MarkVI although some have reported squeaks from the door seals.

I think you need some more reasons to justify the change though. The MarkV is still a very good car.

Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: JamesR27 on 22 November 2010, 14:59
I traded my MK5 GTI for a MK6 and with the MK5 having the centre air vent which always rattled from new in certain temperatures etc.

I can say that the dash is better quality. The sound proofing is a lot better so there is less engine noise and the mirrors are quieter and apparently the glass and seals are better around the window to keep things quiet.

On the motorway it does make a difference and I find the car much better at 60 onwards.

On the rattle front on the MK6 I had a couple when it was brand new but disapeared after 1K when I am guessing the suspension etc started to loosen up.
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 22 November 2010, 16:09
mk6>mk5  :cool:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: The Doc on 22 November 2010, 20:36
Mk6 is miles ahead - buy one and enjoy
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 22 November 2010, 20:41
Mk6 is miles ahead - buy one and enjoy

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 22 November 2010, 20:47
Mk6 is miles ahead - buy one and enjoy

:D :D :D

is it funny because its true??  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 22 November 2010, 20:55
lol its funny because your both wrong :D :D
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: am1w on 22 November 2010, 21:07
lol its funny because your both wrong :D :D

The Mk5 is an aged Elizabeth Taylor. Badly made-up and full of frappe. The Mk6 is the young version of her. You get my gist.
Move on, or move out! :grin:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 22 November 2010, 21:24
lol its funny because your both wrong :D :D

having owned both i disagree :wink:

doesnt mean i dont like the mk5.. the mk6 is just a nicer place to be
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 22 November 2010, 21:32
Oh I totally agree, but miles ahead?
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 23 November 2010, 08:30
Oh I totally agree, but miles ahead?

Alan you know want to a mk6 that's why your always sniffing around here  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 23 November 2010, 09:19
I just cant go away and stay away can I.

I secretly just like sniffing you Steve, thats the only reason Im still here :D
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Rhyso on 23 November 2010, 09:20
I just cant go away and stay away can I.

I secretly just like sniffing you Steve, thats the only reason Im still here :D

That and you're all alone in the MK5 section  :lipsrsealed: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 23 November 2010, 09:22
:(
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: am1w on 23 November 2010, 10:33
The Mk5 looks tatty in comparison to the Mk6. The same will probably be said of the Mk6 when the Mk7 emerges.
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 23 November 2010, 11:03
I just cant go away and stay away can I.

I secretly just like sniffing you Steve, thats the only reason Im still here :D

Bout time you upgraded Alan get a GTD  :smug:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 23 November 2010, 11:10
I just got a little bit of sick in my mouth at the though of me driving a diesel.
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 23 November 2010, 11:12
I just got a little bit of sick in my mouth at the though of me driving a diesel.
ha ha ha cracker  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 23 November 2010, 21:53
lol its funny because your both wrong :D :D

having rented both i disagree :wink:

doesnt mean i dont like the mk5.. the mk6 is just a nicer place to be

ill correct that for you shall i  :wink:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 23 November 2010, 21:55
:D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 23 November 2010, 21:55
Mk6 is miles ahead - buy one and enjoy

Doc im surprised by this!

its improved , but not streets ahead :huh:

You did buy 3 mk5 didnt you?? couple of R32's?

Couldnt of been that bad :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 23 November 2010, 21:57
:D :D :D :D :D


Cant resist a good stir  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 24 November 2010, 07:34
lol its funny because your both wrong :D :D

having rented both i disagree :wink:

doesnt mean i dont like the mk5.. the mk6 is just a nicer place to be

ill correct that for you shall i  :wink:

ass-uming again steve :rolleyes:

I had a dsg for over 3months in total :wink:

and driven mk5's for 5yrs in total :wink:

Most mk6 owners have had a mk5 so are in a position to comment. you sir are not. move on. nothing to see here :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 24 November 2010, 07:40
:D :D :D :D :D


Cant resist a good stir microswitch :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 24 November 2010, 09:17
:D :D :D :D :D


Cant resist a good stirto disagree with everyone then change my mind later when I can afford to make the change  :laugh:

fixed it for ya :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: JulesS3 on 24 November 2010, 11:37
lol its funny because your both wrong :D :D

having rented both i disagree :wink:

doesnt mean i dont like the mk5.. the mk6 is just a nicer place to be

ill correct that for you shall i  :wink:

ass-uming again steve :rolleyes:

I had a dsg for over 3months in total :wink:

and driven mk5's for 5yrs in total :wink:

Most mk6 owners have had a mk5 so are in a position to comment. you sir are not. move on. nothing to see here :laugh:

Anyone thats owned a mk5 can tell someone about a mk5.5  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 24 November 2010, 12:24
^ i dont get it... sooooo much envy coming from the mk5 crowd 


.. bit like a few moons ago when the mk5 was released  :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: am1w on 24 November 2010, 13:23
Dennis:

Lock this thread.

Mk5 owners are going nuts. They are trying so hard to convince themselves that their out-of-date cars are better than the M6.

They probably cannot afford to upgrade to MK6s as they have unfortunately and unwisely spent large sums of money to spruce-up their Mk5s which are not worth very much anymore.

Ladies and gentlemaen of the bygone Mk5 era: You cannot turn a sow's ear into a silk purse.
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 24 November 2010, 14:38
:rolleyes:

It isnt that at all. Never mind.

Both cracking cars, I just fail to agree with this statement that the MK6 is "streets" or lightyears ahead of the MK5. Everyone to their own I suppose.
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 24 November 2010, 14:49
:rolleyes:

It isnt that at all. Never mind.

Both cracking cars, I just fail to agree with this statement that the MK6 is "streets" or lightyears ahead of the MK5. Everyone to their own I suppose.

Have to agreed alan. in terms of drive there is very little in it. the main point i made was that the cabin is a nicer place to be than the mk5. This was my main reason for changing from a mk5 to mk6 and hasn't changed.

As for st steve.... well.... i think the oxford dictionary have a picture of him next the word contradiction  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 24 November 2010, 14:51
Exactly, its clearly going to be a better car. Its newer, got more power etc etc. Some people are talking as if they are comparing it to a MK3, which I didnt agree with is all.
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 24 November 2010, 18:31
:rolleyes:

It isnt that at all. Never mind.

Both cracking cars, I just fail to agree with this statement that the MK6 is "streets" or lightyears ahead of the MK5. Everyone to their own I suppose.

Have to agreed alan. in terms of drive there is very little in it. the main point i made was that the cabin is a nicer place to be than the mk5. This was my main reason for changing from a mk5 to mk6 and hasn't changed.

As for st steve.... well.... i think the oxford dictionary have a picture of him next the word contradiction  :laugh:

Where did i say that??? :huh:

Gilly, you bite to easily :laugh:
:rolleyes:

It isnt that at all. Never mind.

Both cracking cars, I just fail to agree with this statement that the MK6 is "streets" or lightyears ahead of the MK5. Everyone to their own I suppose.

Glad im not the only one with Doc's 1st statement.Its a good replacement on its very succesful predessesor.

Asker....
Dennis:

Lock this thread.

Mk5 owners are going nuts. They are trying so hard to convince themselves that their out-of-date cars are better than the M6.

They probably cannot afford to upgrade to MK6s as they have unfortunately and unwisely spent large sums of money to spruce-up their Mk5s which are not worth very much anymore.

Ladies and gentlemaen of the bygone Mk5 era: You cannot turn a sow's ear into a silk purse.

Your turn happens next year :laugh:

Happens to every golf owner..

I can afford a Mk6, but my Mk5 is too good to sell imo  :smug:

unless of course i decide to lease rent one as an alternative :drool:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: The Danno on 24 November 2010, 18:38
I don't even think there's much in the interior quality either. I clearly had a fairly fault free mk5. Apart from a different steering wheel, most normal people would be hard pressed to know the difference when inside. Outside it's much the same story.

I went to a 6 R so i definatley notice the 4wd grip and it's certainly a bit keener than the 5. But to be honest i loved the rawness of the 5. It really did get back to the ethos of the GTI. Steering wheel, gear knob and go! I loved that car man :cry:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 24 November 2010, 18:43
Ill swap you the R for my MK5 then? Sounds like a good deal to me :D
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 24 November 2010, 18:43
Where did i say that??? :huh:

Gilly, you bite to easily :laugh:

me no bite :smiley:

I dont think its a fair evalutation if you havent owned both the cars in question. rent/lease/finance/borrow are virtually all the same thing and not really much to do with the comparision of the 2 cars either. I doubt there is anyone out there that is paying as little for their MK6 GTI as I am  :wink:

Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 24 November 2010, 18:44
I don't even think there's much in the interior quality either. I clearly had a fairly fault free mk5. Apart from a different steering wheel, most normal people would be hard pressed to know the difference when inside. Outside it's much the same story.

I went to a 6 R so i definatley notice the 4wd grip and it's certainly a bit keener than the 5. But to be honest i loved the rawness of the 5. It really did get back to the ethos of the GTI. Steering wheel, gear knob and go! I loved that car man :cry:

REEEEMAP!!!  :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: daveya on 26 November 2010, 19:10
Ive done approx 150,000 miles in the Mk 4 and then Mk 5, now in a Mk 6.  The Mk 6 is so much better than the Mk 5 in so many ways, least of all the massive improvement over the old PD

yes there are 'little things', the kick plates, the drivers little storage unit isn't lined in carpet etc etc etc etc, but they then spent the money on making what matters so much better.
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 26 November 2010, 19:32
but they then spent the money on making what matters so much better.

Like the chassis, oh no, thats the same. Or that new engine in the MK6 R . . . oh no wait. Or the Monza wheels.  . . . Oh wait . . . Oh Oh Oh the tartan seats. No wait, dammit. Brakes . . . . . oh wait.

Ill stop now :D
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: evo1986 on 26 November 2010, 19:38
Where did i say that??? :huh:

Gilly, you bite to easily :laugh:

me no bite :smiley:

I dont think its a fair evalutation if you havent owned both the cars in question. rent/lease/finance/borrow are virtually all the same thing and not really much to do with the comparision of the 2 cars either. I doubt there is anyone out there that is paying as little for their MK6

GTI as I am  :wink:

Its also the best/safest way to do it if you want to change the car every few years.


Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: am1w on 26 November 2010, 19:43
Like the chassis, oh no, thats the same. Or that new engine in the MK6 R . . . oh no wait. Or the Monza wheels.  . . . Oh wait . . . Oh Oh Oh the tartan seats. No wait, dammit. Brakes . . . . . oh wait.
Ill stop now :D

Oh no, oh wait, I think you have been spending too much time in Lunar (Lunatic) House in Croydon. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 26 November 2010, 20:17
Like the chassis, oh no, thats the same. Or that new engine in the MK6 R . . . oh no wait. Or the Monza wheels.  . . . Oh wait . . . Oh Oh Oh the tartan seats. No wait, dammit. Brakes . . . . . oh wait.
Ill stop now :D

Oh no, oh wait, I think you have been spending too much time in Lunar (Lunatic) House in Croydon. :rolleyes:
That crack me up  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: The Danno on 26 November 2010, 23:22
Ill swap you the R for my MK5 then? Sounds like a good deal to me :D

I've moved on! Build a bridge  :wink:

Seriously though I'd have another mk5 at the drop of a hat...mine was black like yours, clearly the best colour, to hide those silly placcy bits that should have been colour coded... :smiley:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Sam on 27 November 2010, 02:29
Which pair are on GT5? The mk5 and mk1  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: daveya on 27 November 2010, 07:29
but they then spent the money on making what matters so much better.

Like the chassis, oh no, thats the same. Or that new engine in the MK6 R . . . oh no wait. Or the Monza wheels.  . . . Oh wait . . . Oh Oh Oh the tartan seats. No wait, dammit. Brakes . . . . . oh wait.

Ill stop now :D

Lol, none of that matters, Im a company car driver

engine, tick,  iterior, tick, seats, tick, suspension, tick, noise and refinement, tic..............I won't go on :smiley:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 27 November 2010, 09:57
Seriously though I'd have another mk5 at the drop of a hat...mine was black like yours, clearly the best colour, to hide those silly placcy bits that should have been colour coded... :smiley:

Haha ! Thats one of the main reasons why I got it in black (apart from it being the fastest). I still to this day dont know why VW didnt colour code the GTI. How much better does the ED30 (and MK6 for that fact) look all colour coded.
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Jimble on 27 November 2010, 10:09
Which pair are on GT5? The mk5 and mk1  :laugh:

Didn't they start making that when you could still buy a brand new mk1?? :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Hartside on 27 November 2010, 17:26
Quote
Which pair are on GT5? The mk5 and mk1

And we get to drive the Mk6 in real life  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: GolfTi on 27 November 2010, 20:56
Mk 5 - Fantastic car.
Mk 6 - Fantastic car but just that little bit better in every way.

I really liked my mk5, only problem for me was the leather.

Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: am1w on 27 November 2010, 21:01
Mk 5 - Fantastic car.
Mk 6 - Fantastic car but just that little bit better in every way.
I really liked my mk5, only problem for me was the leather.

Cheap, vile stuff they use in a Golf. Makes the inside look like a mini-cab. :sick:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: GolfTi on 27 November 2010, 21:04
More the winter freezing and summer way too hot thing.

My Jacara seats heat up soooo quickly.
Lovely.
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: am1w on 27 November 2010, 21:10
More the winter freezing and summer way too hot thing.
My Jacara seats heat up soooo quickly.
Lovely.

Absolutely.
Take seconds to heat up and are cool in the summer.
How awful to have spent £2000 on a semi-leather interior and have a burning bum in the summer and a freezing one in the winter (even with heated seats which take ages to work). :evil: :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: MAW73 on 28 November 2010, 06:15
I found the leather fine on the mk5 and even better on the mk6. I guess I've got a leather fetish! The cloth seats are very nice but I prefer the look of the leather for a bit more class.
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 28 November 2010, 11:04
Must admit im changing my mind about leather, Im starting to really like the idea. (Maybe i just need to go drive one of my old 50s/60s classics to get the leather idea back out of my mind). Maybe half leather for me would be better. I did like how the late mk5's, late 2007on, had leather standard. The mk6 GTI should have had half leather standard imo.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,21863.15.html
Shows a mk5 thats been retrimmed in leather for less than 1K which is tempting, not sure about the colour he picked though.
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 28 November 2010, 11:27
Must admit im changing my mind about leather, Im starting to really like the idea. (Maybe i just need to go drive one of my old 50s/60s classics to get the leather idea back out of my mind). Maybe half leather for me would be better. I did like how the late mk5's, late 2007on, had leather standard. The mk6 GTI should have had half leather standard imo.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,21863.15.html
Shows a mk5 thats been retrimmed in leather for less than 1K which is tempting, not sure about the colour he picked though.

Ed30 seats were excellent in the Mk5 and you had a massager in the seat brilliant :wink:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: MAW73 on 28 November 2010, 11:39
Must admit im changing my mind about leather, Im starting to really like the idea. (Maybe i just need to go drive one of my old 50s/60s classics to get the leather idea back out of my mind). Maybe half leather for me would be better. I did like how the late mk5's, late 2007on, had leather standard. The mk6 GTI should have had half leather standard imo.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,21863.15.html
Shows a mk5 thats been retrimmed in leather for less than 1K which is tempting, not sure about the colour he picked though.


Wow that's a nice job someones made of that interior. I also quite like the colour tbo.  Tan or cream leather looks very nice on the dark cars and black leather looks good on white and silver cars. 

Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: Jimble on 28 November 2010, 13:24
Wow  :shocked: that retrim looks superb! Reckon in a couple of years when the cloth trims looking a bit ropey, i might look at getting the bolsters trimmed in leather with red stiching like an ED30. thats a great price too.
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: am1w on 28 November 2010, 17:59
This company is highly recommended.

£995+VAT for a complete leather re-trim. Additional £450+VAT for headlining.

http://www.trim-star.co.uk/
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 28 November 2010, 18:15
For any interior trimming use these chaps - http://www.trimdeluxe.co.uk/
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: am1w on 28 November 2010, 18:34
For any interior trimming use these chaps - http://www.trimdeluxe.co.uk/

Oh dear! Nice web page. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Mk5 v Mk6
Post by: AlanD on 28 November 2010, 20:25
Clearly because if you cant make a webpage fit a certain size resolution monitor you must be useless at interior trim :rolleyes:

Im just going on work I've seen done and not heard a bad thing about them.