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Title: A bit from my heart...
Post by: PenguinGTI on 01 November 2010, 23:29
Ok guys I've got a little bit I'd like to share and if you have any advice or thoughts I'd appreciate them.

In short I think I am bored with the performance of my car.

When I got it I loved it. Then mapping the car I loved it even more. Every time I drove was a wow moment. Now though I can drive it at full throttle and hardly feel the performance. I know the car is covering ground at the same speed but it just doesn't feel like to me. I have been through a phase where I believed this was because the car was poorly but in hindsight I think it is just my sensations have changed.

To further my confusion my partners little corsa - only a 1.0 - feels nippy and yet my GTI almost feels flat.  :embarassed:

Apologies for speaking my heart a bit. Any one else here ever felt similar or do I just need a cold bucket of water over my head?

On top of that my driver seat is so blooming squeaky. Need to get it replaced or something at the service next week.
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: R32UK on 02 November 2010, 07:33
I feel similar :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: danski on 02 November 2010, 07:36
Try giving the Golf a rest, drive the Corsa for a week, then get back in, it`ll feel like a new car !
I felt the same when I had been driving my supercharged 2.8 V6 Passat for a few months. Man, I miss that car
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: am1w on 02 November 2010, 07:38
Both of you sound like bored housewives. :evil: :grin:
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Post by: Steve30 on 02 November 2010, 08:17
Sounds the like map has lost its fizz , get rid and get an RS4 V8  :drool: Time to up the Anti  :smug:
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Post by: Snoopy on 02 November 2010, 11:13
Try giving the Golf a rest, drive the Corsa for a week, then get back in, it`ll feel like a new car !
Thats what i do.
Its just you have become use to it.
I have not used the GTI for over a week and will not till next weekend. It will feel quick again.
The problem the mk6 has is its too refined and too quiet and too linear in its power delivery so it never feels that quick even when mapped. It lacks that old car style turbo kick
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: MAW73 on 02 November 2010, 11:57
My cars performance is not top of the list for me as it’s the all round package they led me to buy a GTI. I love the car ‘equally’ for its looks, refinement, badge and performance. That’s why I personally have no interest in re-mapping my car.
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Post by: Exonian on 02 November 2010, 12:19
I use a 13 year old Ibiza GTI as my daily driver so my Golf always feels quick when I use it. However the road feel is much better in the older car.

Get hold of a Sprint Booster, really gives the re-map a kick. I was a bit dubious before getting mine despite having tried one on another car, but it just wakes the darn car up.
Another thing to watch is the ECU adapts to driving style even when you're remapped, and as you don't drive at full throttle most of the time (unless you're nuts) the ECU will gradually lean the car off to bias the mapping towards low emissions and better fuel economy. So once in a while you need to take the car back to standard and put the mapping back on again fresh a few days later so it is back to optimum.
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: musicman87 on 02 November 2010, 12:24
Drive some really small tight roads, concentrate on maintaining your speed through the corners and ride the wave of torque.

My best friend has a 52' plate RS6 which is tuned to over 600bhp - i drive it regularly on his company insurance and it's the fastest car i've ever driven! But it handles like a Pug 207 (less feel than a dead elephant) - and my Golf feels light on its feet compared to that!

Admittedly, the Golf feels pretty slow after it but i soon acclimatise and enjoy the Golf for what it is.

I do sympathise... Time to upgrade to a Golf R?
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: KennyGTI on 02 November 2010, 13:59
What about a change of map??? REVO?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: PenguinGTI on 02 November 2010, 14:03
Thanks for the responses guys. Some pretty interesting ones too.


I do sympathise... Time to upgrade to a Golf R?

You might be surprised but I am thinking on going the other way. If I was to upgrade to a Golf R then eventually the performance would wear off again. My logic is that if the performance will never be 'ever-sufficient' then I should find something about the car that is.

Capacity and efficiency are moving up on my list as performance is moving down. I'm not singing for the black pump choir yet but I reckon a smaller capacity car might be the answer rather than constantly chasing the power in terms of my own satisfaction.

I enjoy the GTI and it is still quick. But I reckon I would enjoy a car more because of refinement, comfort, efficiency (or even convertible) over performance now.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: PenguinGTI on 02 November 2010, 14:04
What about a change of map??? REVO?  :rolleyes:

You reckon this would make that much of a difference?
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: A7 UFO on 02 November 2010, 14:07
Apologies for speaking my heart a bit.
are you gay?
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Post by: am1w on 02 November 2010, 14:23
Penguin Hi!

3 months ago, around the time of Le Mans, I remember you were about to get a Mini Cooper S Works but decided to keep your GTi.

That time has come again.

Personally, I would consider a dedicated sports car which will provide you with the requisite thrills which a family hatchback, be it a GTi or an R, can attempt to but never truly give.

Happy hunting. :smiley:

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Post by: Snoopy on 02 November 2010, 14:26
Must admit i have been trying other cars of late.  :shocked: but most are so refined they simply don't feel fast. I miss the old car connected feeling and also especially of old turbo cars kick.
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: PenguinGTI on 02 November 2010, 14:34
Penguin Hi!

3 months ago, around the time of Le Mans, I remember you were about to get a Mini Cooper S Works but decided to keep your GTi.

That time has come again.

Personally, I would consider a dedicated sports car which will provide you with the requisite thrills which a family hatchback, be it a GTi or an R, can attempt to but never truly give.

Happy hunting. :smiley:



You are bang on the money. I guess I am just experiencing a period of unrest.

I was ultimately dissatisfied with the Mini hence my purchase of the GTI. I am not quite as bad as I was before Dr Amz in that I'm not considering selling the Golf. I am more than happy keeping it for a good bit longer but the point of my post is more that my priorities in a car are changing.



are you gay?

The speed no longer seems to be doing it for me.

Unfortunately, I think I might be :laugh:

Must admit i have been trying other cars of late.  :shocked: but most are so refined they simply don't feel fast. I miss the old car connected feeling and also especially of old turbo cars kick.

Snoops you are on the money also. That was what I loved about the Mini was the connected feeling (although still diminished compared to cars of old) and also the good ol' kick which seems to be getting shunned in favour of linear power. Booooooo!!!!



Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: MAW73 on 02 November 2010, 14:49


You might be surprised but I am thinking on going the other way. If I was to upgrade to a Golf R then eventually the performance would wear off again. My logic is that if the performance will never be 'ever-sufficient' then I should find something about the car that is.

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Sound like you might be leaning towards getting one of these :grin:

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/1uppicdump4/72614796.jpg)
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: MAW73 on 02 November 2010, 14:59
are you gay?

The speed no longer seems to be doing it for me.

Unfortunately, I think I might be :laugh:

Well one of these then?

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/WITHCOMBEM/screen-5.jpg)

WARNING ! Anyone staring at this photo for longer than 3 seconds may be GAY.
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: PenguinGTI on 02 November 2010, 15:23
 :laugh: Oh dear is this how far I have fallen.

I should never have said anything  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: MAW73 on 02 November 2010, 15:30
:laugh: Oh dear is this how far I have fallen.

I should never have said anything  :lipsrsealed:

The funny thing is....... as I was posting the gay car picture the batteries in my mouse decided to pack up and I couldn't minimise the screen quick enough just as one of the girls in the office walked by my desk  :embarassed:  :grin:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: p3asa on 02 November 2010, 15:37
The funny thing is....... as I was posting the gay car picture the batteries in my mouse decided to pack up and I couldn't minimise the screen quick enough just as one of the girls in the office walked by my desk  :embarassed:  :grin:

Brilliant  :laugh:  Caught in the act  :wink:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: PenguinGTI on 02 November 2010, 15:52

The funny thing is....... as I was posting the gay car picture the batteries in my mouse decided to pack up and I couldn't minimise the screen quick enough just as one of the girls in the office walked by my desk  :embarassed:  :grin:

Ha ha that made my day  :laugh: (well that and getting Bon Jovi tickets)
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: am1w on 02 November 2010, 17:07
Martin, my dear: Pink 500, gay boys with all over body make-up in skimpy knickers and to cap it all a White Golf with black wheels! Hmmm .....
Any other nuggets for us apart from the four in the pink knickers? :embarassed: :shocked:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: gizzywizzy on 02 November 2010, 17:09
My cars performance is not top of the list for me as it’s the all round package they led me to buy a GTI. I love the car ‘equally’ for its looks, refinement, badge and performance. That’s why I personally have no interest in re-mapping my car.

Exactly how I feel too.  The quality of the build is paramount to me and overall comfort, this car is fast enough for me and I love it.
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: chrissyr32 on 02 November 2010, 17:32
Sounds the like map has lost its fizz , get rid and get an RS4 V8  :drool: Time to up the Anti  :smug:



Sounds good...thats exactly what i did!!!  :cool:  Albeit a MK5 R32 i traded in!!!  :smiley:

Every quick car ive had starts to feel "slow" after a while..i supposed you get used to the power... :sad:

My MK5 GTI actually felt faster than my MK5 R32....but in the real world was very similar....

However once i got the RS4 there was noooooo looking back..... :grin:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: R32UK on 02 November 2010, 17:33
used m3??  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: andykram on 02 November 2010, 20:13
I pootle about day to day on the motorway to work and back (as one does). But every now and then such as tonight coming home on the back country roads instead of the motorway I remember why I have this car. Awesome.
Having said all that I'm still thinking very strongly of getting it chipped. Admittedly, this p***** me off cos it should have been 250 in the first place like every other manufacturer's car but hey, I suppose you expect this if you buy into VW. I reckon a boost up to 250/260 might see me totally happy.
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: am1w on 02 November 2010, 20:26
Having said all that I'm still thinking very strongly of getting it chipped. Admittedly, this p***** me off cos it should have been 250 in the first place like every other manufacturer's car but hey, I suppose you expect this if you buy into VW. I reckon a boost up to 250/260 might see me totally happy..

But first get some decent tyres, if you have not already, to use all that delicious performance. :smiley: :wink:
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Post by: celticdragon on 02 November 2010, 20:44

The funny thing is....... as I was posting the gay car picture the batteries in my mouse decided to pack up and I couldn't minimise the screen quick enough just as one of the girls in the office walked by my desk  :embarassed:  :grin:

Ha ha that made my day  :laugh: (well that and getting Bon Jovi tickets)

...getting Bon Jovi tickets.....So you ARE gay! man up dude!!
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: am1w on 02 November 2010, 20:53
The funny thing is....... as I was posting the gay car picture the batteries in my mouse decided to pack up and I couldn't minimise the screen quick enough just as one of the girls in the office walked by my desk  :embarassed:  :grin:
Ha ha that made my day  :laugh: (well that and getting Bon Jovi tickets)
...getting Bon Jovi tickets.....So you ARE gay! man up dude!!

celticdragon:
Stop it you slvt!!
This is such an indecent and pubic way for you to fish and come out of the closet. :evil: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: lowdown on 02 November 2010, 21:41
Great thread.

And I appreciate Penguin Gti's comments, and I feel the same between my Gti and Polo!

IMHO small cars are always fun.  You get to the limit quicker, you can feel the whole car very quickly, and something like a modern GTi is so high tech and refined, that you need an appreciation of statistics to get a buzz from what has been engineered.

Obviously I drive the same roads with the same two cars, and when I look at the journeys times they are hugely different.  Cornering speeds 20mph higher and so on.  I would need a supercar to go another 10mph higher, and quite frankly that would be madness wrt road safety.

GTi best all-round ride ever.
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: am1w on 02 November 2010, 21:56
IMO if it was a tad narrower, it would be perfect! :smiley:
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Post by: Spartacus on 02 November 2010, 22:06
I think I know how you feel.

I have had my Mk6 GTi for over a year now and having narrowed my choice down to the Golf from the Audi S3 and the Focus RS I find myself questioning the decision that I made. The RS looks like a real mad car and by all the accounts I have read is a hoot to drive so every journey would be an adventure.

Then I remember that I had a Clio 182 for 3 months and had to change it as every journey became a 'race'. It was only going to be a matter of time before I had an accident so it had to go.

I have had BM's, Porsche's, GTi's of all versions and makes,  but nothing and I mean nothing comes close to the Mk6 GTi.

I have fallen in love with it.

Maybe you need to do the same as well. Go away for a dirty weekend.
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: am1w on 02 November 2010, 22:18
Same as you Spartacus. Owned all shapes and types. But this car is just about perfect.
No wonder it is the best selling car in Europe.
Our complaints on this forum are minor and are from people who love their cars enough that any criticism is for honing a near perfect object to satisfy personal requirements.
I must admit I am in love and it is a long term. :smiley:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: andykram on 02 November 2010, 22:51
Me too. The only thing I'd change it for would be an R. But I can't afford one of them so I'll stick with the GTi.
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: am1w on 02 November 2010, 23:03
Price is no concern to me.

I just wanted a car which is practical with a big enough boot (the R has a miserable sized one), is fast enough to satisfy the devil in me, has elegant cloth seats as I hate the discomfort of leather, is smooth and quiet, is easy to park in the work car park, is reasonably economical, can be nicely fettled with retro-fit mods, looks understated but elegant, has a dealer service department close by, causes a bit of envy, makes me feel a proud owner with good taste, the list goes on and on.

A perfect partner. :smiley:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: p3asa on 02 November 2010, 23:37
Am1w, you've mentioned a few times about the R's boot being a poor size. Is it really that bad? Is there stuff you carry that you wouldn't get in an R?
The Golf is probably one of the smallest hatches I have had as I usually have family sized cars but to be honest I've not come across anything that I've been unable to carry. I suppose its horses for courses at the end of the day.
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: PenguinGTI on 02 November 2010, 23:59
Ha ha, I'll take whatever comments come about my Bon Jovi likes...

I do love the golf. When you drive another car you notice all the little things that the other car doesn't do that the GTI does.

But I think I can do without the performance next time. Either that or I'm buying two cars and limiting my use of the faster one.

And without turning this into a leather vs cloth vs GTI vs R topic again. I do agree with am1w about the cloth and the R. I love the tartan seats and I prefer the GTI to the R. although maybe the R engine would be better. (ha ha after just saying I could do without the performance)

I am a hopeless case
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: am1w on 03 November 2010, 11:25
Am1w, you've mentioned a few times about the R's boot being a poor size. Is it really that bad? Is there stuff you carry that you wouldn't get in an R?

Bikes and scooters for 3 kids ages 6, 4, 2.5 years + my own sh!t! :smiley:
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Post by: celticdragon on 03 November 2010, 13:31
Ha ha, I'll take whatever comments come about my Bon Jovi likes...


just joshing  :wink:  Foo Fighters tickets on sale this week....get some!  :smug:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: R32UK on 03 November 2010, 14:57
Am1w, you've mentioned a few times about the R's boot being a poor size. Is it really that bad? Is there stuff you carry that you wouldn't get in an R?

Bikes and scooters for 3 kids ages 6, 4, 2.5 years + my own sh!t! :smiley:

i honestly wouldnt say there is that much difference. to give you some kind of idea, if you add about 2inches to the bottom of your boot that gives you some kind of idea how much less space it offers. alothough saying that it does then offer a flatter load space when the rear seats are down.
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: PenguinGTI on 03 November 2010, 15:39
To update this thread. I've decided not to use the GTI for a week, perhaps longer so that I can climatise to a slower car. Then hopefully when I jump back in it I can enjoy the performance again.

Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: MAW73 on 03 November 2010, 15:45
To update this thread. I've decided not to use the GTI for a week, perhaps longer so that I can climatise to a slower car. Then hopefully when I jump back in it I can enjoy the performance again.



 ^ I might do the same with the Mrs  :evil: :grin:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: Steve30 on 03 November 2010, 18:01
To update this thread. I've decided not to use the GTI for a week, perhaps longer so that I can climatise to a slower car. Then hopefully when I jump back in it I can enjoy the performance again.



You could always buy a GTD :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: A bit from my heart...
Post by: am1w on 03 November 2010, 19:52
I drove a Polo for a total of 3 weeks and a Pug 1007 for another 2 weeks when Wolfgang was in hospital for his uncustomary love-ins + rear end botox.

When I got him back, I felt I was going no faster, but noticed fewer cars around me! Looking into the rear view mirror, they were distant specks!

Wow, Wolfgang is so fast and so refined.
I ask you, what more can a man ask of his trusty stead?
Even better, he has thoughtfully curtailed his thirst for 97 RON. :smiley: