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Title: scirocco mk2, engine???????
Post by: karl1987 on 27 October 2010, 18:59
hi guys i jus got given a mk2 scirocco it was a gt ii but i want to put another engine in it. now with sensibleness in mind, ie it fitting!!!! what can you suggest???
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Post by: Sam on 27 October 2010, 22:44
could be a tough one. Rocco engines are for whatever mental german engineering reason opposide way round to the golfs of the era
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Post by: Wayne on 27 October 2010, 23:51
could be a tough one. Rocco engines are for whatever mental german engineering reason opposide way round to the golfs of the era

No they are not, Scirocco is a mk1 Golf floorpan, injection system is on the other side.

Any Golf lump will fit within reason.
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Post by: Alec on 27 October 2010, 23:56
Was gonna say, and the Raddo is more similar to mk2 floorpan isn't it? Or something like that.

Would of though you could stick a 9a or ABF in it without too much bother. Aren't there a few 16v rocco's from the factory?
Title: Re: scirocco mk2, engine???????
Post by: Wayne on 28 October 2010, 09:43
Was gonna say, and the Raddo is more similar to mk2 floorpan isn't it? Or something like that.

Would of though you could stick a 9a or ABF in it without too much bother. Aren't there a few 16v rocco's from the factory?

Yep, 16v were available new but made in very small numbers.
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Post by: Horney on 28 October 2010, 10:09
ABF would be cheapest bang for buck I would have thought. Can't remember what the GTII had in from new though. Carb or K-Jet injection?

Nick
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Post by: Agreeable Slick on 28 October 2010, 10:14
mmm valver scirocco. :drool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 28 October 2010, 11:07
M'mmmmm, Valver 'rocco.

ABF all the way, innit.

IIRC the K-jet variety valver that was fitted to the OEM 'rocco had the throttlebody port the opposite side to all of the other 16V inlets, which is why it's much feted by those wanting to turbo-charge the 16V lump.

As it's the Golf1 floorpan it has different engine mounting to the G2 and G3, so you might need to have a root about to see whether these work OK with the tall-block ABF.
Title: Re: scirocco mk2, engine???????
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 28 October 2010, 11:11
M'mmmmm, Valver 'rocco.

ABF all the way, innit.

IIRC the K-jet variety valver that was fitted to the OEM 'rocco had the throttlebody port the opposite side to all of the other 16V inlets, which is why it's much feted by those wanting to turbo-charge the 16V lump.

Correcto, this is why they are bloody hard to get hold of also, as they are handy for force induction set ups.

I have seen a 1.8T rocco before, but can't remember who had it.
Title: Re: scirocco mk2, engine???????
Post by: Diamond Hell on 28 October 2010, 11:35
A guy from around Leicester, MK I in brown, very discrete, lovely motor.  I got my 8V crossflow head from him.  Love that car.
Title: Re: scirocco mk2, engine???????
Post by: karl1987 on 28 October 2010, 16:36
lol dont i picked up a gt2 ;)
Title: Re: scirocco mk2, engine???????
Post by: danny_p on 28 October 2010, 17:45
16v kjet rocco manifold are made of a spectial alloy containg very high concentarions of unobtanium and scenetaxium this means there 2nd hand value is mahoosive.   i've just cut a stock mk2 manifold and fliped the tb over to the other side,  then if you can be arsed to poish it ypou can make the rework unoticable.

ABF will fit but you skew the mounts down an bit to clear the bonnet, easy done
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Post by: Sam on 28 October 2010, 17:49
M'mmmmm, Valver 'rocco.

ABF all the way, innit.

IIRC the K-jet variety valver that was fitted to the OEM 'rocco had the throttlebody port the opposite side to all of the other 16V inlets, which is why it's much feted by those wanting to turbo-charge the 16V lump.

As it's the Golf1 floorpan it has different engine mounting to the G2 and G3, so you might need to have a root about to see whether these work OK with the tall-block ABF.

This  must be where i got the backwards idea from, my mates looks backwards in comparison to my valver
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Post by: cняis on 28 October 2010, 19:40
GTII is carbed 1.8 90hp

Scala is k-jet 110hp

16v roccos were all LHD i believe

There was a 1.8T rocco on ebay a couple of weeks ago, in white.
Title: Re: scirocco mk2, engine???????
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 31 October 2010, 22:46
Correct. GTII was 1.8 carb from golf2 with 90bhp.
GT was the 1.6 carb.
GTX and Scala 1.8 gti K-jet 112bhp.
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Post by: cняis on 01 November 2010, 01:14
Correct. GTII was 1.8 carb from golf2 with 90bhp.
GT was the 1.6 carb.
GTX and Scala 1.8 gti K-jet 112bhp.

which is why i was left wondering, why do people bang on about the GTII being the one to own? The scala had more power
Title: Re: scirocco mk2, engine???????
Post by: Sam on 01 November 2010, 01:24
according to wiki

European 1.8 16V that was fitted into the Scirocco GTX 16V model developed 139 bhp
Title: Re: scirocco mk2, engine???????
Post by: Mikey360 on 03 December 2011, 01:13
I used to have a Scirocco GTX, cost me £350 and was the coolest car I've owned to date!  :drool:
Fantastic to drive, went like a bat out of hell (well it was the most powerful car I've owned so far!) a real head turner even though the bodywork wasn't in the best of conditions!

Unfortunately, all the insurance companies decided to take a dump on my head when my renewal came up... nothing cheaper than £1600 even though I had 2 years no claims and no accidents nor faults with both parents being named drivers!
Damn being 19!!

Miss that car so much! So do most of my friends! :sad:
Ah well, second mk3 now, at least parts are a bit easier to get hold of  :laugh:
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Post by: clipperjay on 03 December 2011, 09:53
16v kjet rocco manifold are made of a spectial alloy containg very high concentarions of unobtanium and scenetaxium this means there 2nd hand value is mahoosive.   i've just cut a stock mk2 manifold and fliped the tb over to the other side,  then if you can be arsed to poish it ypou can make the rework unoticable.

ABF will fit but you skew the mounts down an bit to clear the bonnet, easy done


The best way to G60 a 16V is to use the Rocco manifold for the exact reasons you just pointed out plus the TB outlet is exactly where it should be, easier to connect to the G60 :nerd: