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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Okram on 05 October 2010, 09:12
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Anybody have installed A sequential manual transmission to golf 3 gti? Or what kind of sequential gearboxes you know to fit GTI
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yes.
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yes.
:grin: :grin: :grin: very helpful!
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I loved the way this question has been completely ignored. I wanted to share my ignorance too, but in a slightly sillier way. :drool:
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Anybody have installed A sequential manual transmission to golf 3 gti? Or what kind of sequential gearboxes you know to fit GTI
I'm sure some of the Motorsport specialists will oblige...but with a decent dog 'box being the best part of £6000, I can't see a fully sequential 'box leaving you with much change from £10,000-15,000.
Probably why nothing this side of a full works Kit Car/Circuit Car has ever had one fitted.
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You can buy a sequential shifter that uses your existing gearbox and two cables but operates in the same fashion as a sequential shifter. Not cheap though and no experience of whether they work well or not.
http://www.sqsracing.com/produkt/4:4:sqs-sequent-shifter-vw-audi-seat-skoda (http://www.sqsracing.com/produkt/4:4:sqs-sequent-shifter-vw-audi-seat-skoda)
Paul
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You can buy a sequential shifter that uses your existing gearbox and two cables but operates in the same fashion as a sequential shifter. Not cheap though and no experience of whether they work well or not.
http://www.sqsracing.com/produkt/4:4:sqs-sequent-shifter-vw-audi-seat-skoda (http://www.sqsracing.com/produkt/4:4:sqs-sequent-shifter-vw-audi-seat-skoda)
Paul
They work...but in order to use the gearbox like a sequntial - that is clutchless, on full throttle (or with a slight lift) - you will need the SQS dog engagement gearkit that goes with it.
I can't see the point of a push-pull selector on a synchro gearbox where the synchros are the weak link anyway.
RobT on Club GTI runs a full SQS set up (SQS H Pattern dog 'box with SQS sequential shifter) in hias Ibiza.
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Very expensive and unless you're competing for every second in competition a luxury you can do without.
Having said that I would have one if I had endless amounts of cash.
Paul
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So? What about Dual clutch transmission
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So what?
The verdict is that it's a very very expensive thing to do, and it's something that unless you are looking to get into competition, it's not really worth doing.
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So? What about Dual clutch transmission
Again major work.
So what?
The verdict is that it's a very very expensive thing to do, and it's something that unless you are looking to get into competition, it's not really worth doing.
Yep spot on.
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So? What about Dual clutch transmission
Fitting DSG?
VW 'tall block' DSG will physically fit...if you are lucky and make new mounts. But, they are big and heavy!
Then you need the controllers...which are CAN-Bus.
The Mk3 is not. So you need to change the Mk3 to CAN-Bus electrics...including the steering wheel and column, to get the 'paddles' (sadly, nothing more than feel-free micro switches) and accelerator pedal...you'd also need the Mk4/5/6 engine and DBW system if you wanted rev-matching/rev blipping.
And then you end up with a gearbox that does what it wants anyway, not exactly what you want, as a proper H pattern manual, or sequential 'box proper.
Maybe the newer Polo/Ibiza/Fabia dty clutch 7 speed DSGs would be better/easier...as they are lighter, less complicated and the lesser torque capability is less of an issue for your average Mk3...but I don't know if they fit 'tall block' engines.
Is the 1.2TSI/1.4TSI Twincharged a 'short block' or 'tall block' derived engine?
I don't know.
Mother is collecting a 1.2 TSI DSG Fabia in the next couple of weeks...so I'll have the chance to try it, and see if it's any 'better' than the larger wet clutch 6 speed DSGs. Unlikely, sadly...
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Well a mate of mine bought a brand new Hewland sequential 6 speed transaxle to go in the back of his Cavalier Coupe (long story, it's more a Cavalier shaped box to contain a lot of very trick bits!) and I know that came in at £5k - £6k. They probably do a similar unit for transverse set ups - touring cars and the like - but I doubt it would be any cheaper.
S.M.