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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Jimble on 11 September 2010, 17:31
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Right then, when i picked up my car it was part filled with whatever jungle juice the dealers use, when that was gone i wanted to fill it with good stuff but was nowhere near a decent petrol station so ended up with supermarket crap, anyway, since then i've filled with shells finest v-power however at the time i couldn't 'really' tell the difference, so thought i'd save a few holiday pennies and try the fuel save unleaded and my god that fuel is crap!!!! Anyone else tried this stuff and feel the difference? if not don't bother! i'll be using the good stuff from now on.
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V-power only for GTI, yes it does make a diffirance , my ed30 loved that stuff!!
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I have tried BP Ultimate, Shell V max whatever and Total Excellium. The latter I find is the best for me. The engine feels super smooth and I get much better mpg.
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I have tried BP Ultimate, Shell V max whatever and Total Excellium. The latter I find is the best for me. The engine feels super smooth and I get much better mpg.
Total Excellium is rubbish mate :lipsrsealed:
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I don't think it is rubbish. Serves me well. Also, as I noticed little or no difference and as Total stations are conveniently located, I stuck with them. Remember Autocar have also used Excellium for their road tests. So it can't be that bad. :smiley:
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I don't think it is rubbish. Serves me well. Also, as I noticed little or no difference and as Total stations are conveniently located I stuck with them. Remember Autocar have also used Excellium for their road tests.
Dont think you will say that once you have the bluefin on mate :drool:
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Shell V power or Tesco Momentum.
By the way asker you probably won't care about your bumper anymore once you are bluefinned. :evil:
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Shell V power or Tesco Momentum.
By the way asker you probably won't care about your bumper anymore once you are bluefinned. :evil:
One has nothing to do with the other. :huh:
Until the bumper is fixed, no Xenons or Bluefin! :wink:
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I understand.
The upset, grief and bad feeling will be easier to live with though as you'll have a big silly grin on your face. :evil:
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I understand.
The upset, grief and bad feeling will be easier to live with though as you'll have a big silly grin on your face. :evil:
Sympathy is your middle name.
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Mines not chipped or the older Edition 30 engine that are designed for 98ron, i don't notice a difference myself. :embarassed: I have seen a couple of rolling road tests of GTI mk6s using 95 and 98 Ron and theres only a couple of bhp in it but that could simply be down to the two cars used production and miles differences.
I have used both versions of the shell as a pass a shell garage on the way to work.
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Re mapped or not. There is a noticable difference.
The only question is whether or not the extra cost is worth it.
To me it is.
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Mines not chipped or the older Edition 30 engine that are designed for 98ron, i don't notice a difference myself. :embarassed: I have seen a couple of rolling road tests of GTI mk6s using 95 and 98 Ron and theres only a couple of bhp in it but that could simply be down to the two cars used production and miles differences.
I have used both versions of the shell as a pass a shell garage on the way to work.
Interesting, is there any evidence that the EA888 adapts to 98RON? (knock sensor that will exceed 95RON etc)
I've read the engine was developed as a world engine capable of using low fuel grades e.g 91RON is the USA.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10609286095/new-audi-18-tfsi-engine-revealed
Here is the training manual if you want a nice bedtime read.
http://www.arinahnell.com/other/vw/tech/20tsi.pdf
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:nerd: Im a sad barstuard i actually read the self study guide while waiting for the car, as well as the technical documents out there about the block and internals of the EA888 :embarassed:
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:nerd: Im a sad barstuard i actually read the self study guide while waiting for the car, as well as the technical documents out there about the block and internals of the EA888 :embarassed:
No problem, it would be good to get an absolute answer on the pros of using 98RON, the training manual doesnt point to any.
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iirc both the older and newer engines have knock control. the mk5 GTI was set up to run on 98Ron or higher (this is stated on the sticker inside the petrol cap).
The mk6 is set up to run on 95ron. I do believe after a remap you can change settings to specify the car is running on the better stuff. Although i would be suprised if the mk6 didnt have knock control also.
Momentum 99 for me also :evil: (no v-power locally)
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I understand.
The upset, grief and bad feeling will be easier to live with though as you'll have a big silly grin on your face. :evil:
The grin would soon fade if the engine gets damaged and the warranty is void or he has a bump and the insurance won't pay out :cry: -of course the latter won't occur becuase all you people having remaps and other mods tell your insurance companies about them don't you?
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I understand.
The upset, grief and bad feeling will be easier to live with though as you'll have a big silly grin on your face. :evil:
Sympathy is your middle name.
If he gets a bluefin, no-one will be able to see his bumper!!!
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My old mk5, and now the R both love V power. I believe that v power is now a 99 RON fuel where previously it was 98. Many of the others top of the range fuel is actual only about 97, bar the Tesco one. Not sure about how many nice additives Tesco will be using, so I stick to Shell for now.
Both my engines are the old type, not really sure your MK6's would not really benefit the extra RON. On mine though, you could definatley tell the difference, they got quite wheezy on 95.
In Germany they've got V Power Racing 100, which has 5% ethanol in it!!!! Boy that stuff is great. Wish they had it here. I remember being a bit shocked at how much quicker I had to change gears! It caught me out a few times and I redlined the poor thing a little too much.
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My old mk5, and now the R both love V power. I believe that v power is now a 99 RON fuel where previously it was 98. Many of the others top of the range fuel is actual only about 97, bar the Tesco one. Not sure about how many nice additives Tesco will be using, so I stick to Shell for now.
Both my engines are the old type, not really sure your MK6's would not really benefit the extra RON. On mine though, you could definatley tell the difference, they got quite wheezy on 95.
In Germany they've got V Power Racing 100, which has 5% ethanol in it!!!! Boy that stuff is great. Wish they had it here. I remember being a bit shocked at how much quicker I had to change gears! It caught me out a few times and I redlined the poor thing a little too much.
I do remember a thread on here at some point where someone confirmed the tesco 99 stuff comes from the same refinary as the v-power fuels. Basically tesco buy and then rebrand it as their own.
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Im pretty sure we have had this talk and unlike the MK5 which was setup as standard to run 98+ wasnt the MK6 setup to make peak power and efficiently on the simple 95 stuff?
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Im pretty sure we have had this talk and unlike the MK5 which was setup as standard to run 98+ wasnt the MK6 is setup to make peak power and efficiently on the simple 95 stuff?
As far as I understand, yep
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Sounds like it might be a false economy on the MK6 then.
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Yeah I seem to remember it comes from the same refinery, but that the retailers put in the additives to their own specification.
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Sounds like it might be a false economy on the MK6 then.
Perhaps, but mine ran great on 100 racing, so maybe it will make a bit of difference. At least the mk 6 boys aren't pinned to shell only, like I am. Well Tesco too now, if I trust their additives!!
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ive been using that tesco momentum recently and i have to say the miles i am getting from a tank has gone up around 15 miles. ive got the roc r dsg and am not unwilling to boot it. most of my driving is commuting 20ish miles a day with a bit of pottering at weekend. id always used shell/sainsburys but am impressed with this tesco stuff. i reckon im stickin with that at the min.
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The Roc R has the "older" MK5s GTI 2.0T and not the MK6s GTI engine. You will see benefits in running the higher octane stuff in both R models.
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ive been using that tesco momentum recently and i have to say the miles i am getting from a tank has gone up around 15 miles. ive got the roc r dsg and am not unwilling to boot it. most of my driving is commuting 20ish miles a day with a bit of pottering at weekend. id always used shell/sainsburys but am impressed with this tesco stuff. i reckon im stickin with that at the min.
You're Shell V Power has allegedly more/better additives to protect and clean the engine. Not sure I trust Tesco. Although saying that, they're pretty good with putting additives in their food! :wink:
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I have also read somewhere that the combustive properties for Total Excellium 97 RON are superb.
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I have also read somewhere that the combustive properties for Total Excellium 97 RON are superb.
It seems I was wrong about Mk6 gti engine and V-power, 95 ron only then?? :undecided:
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Im pretty sure we have had this talk and unlike the MK5 which was setup as standard to run 98+ wasnt the MK6 setup to make peak power and efficiently on the simple 95 stuff?
I think there was a heated discussion, as i think I remember it too. IIRC Teutonic_Tamer was the one saying it and it makes sense to me * as the label in the petrol flap says similar on the EA888 engine :wink:
*Not the mk6 golf R, scirocco R, mk5 GTI or edition30/pirelli or seat cupra mk2, Cupra R mk2. (as it states reduced power in their handbooks on 95)