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Title: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: simond65 on 05 August 2010, 10:05
Hi everyone,

My 56 plate is coming up to it's anniversary and thus it is service and MOT time. I was hoping that someone could clarify what I need to be paying out for. I realise this is going to put a dint in my savings so have decided to keep the car for longer (I love it anyway so not a problem!) and that I might as well get things done comprehensively rather than skimp about.

So I have time and distance servicing, 29,000 miles and it's DSG. From what I've read here I know it's a comprehensive service and that the cambelt needs changing but then it seems to be opinion based about water pump/DSG oil etc. So is there a definitive list of things that need attention over and above the major service?

Thanks in advance.

Simon
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 05 August 2010, 11:53
 4 years or 60k seems to be when most change cam belt  :wink: mine was done then along with the water pump, there not expensive so worth doing at the same time. Mine is a manual gearbox so not shure about DSG service but i'm shure i've read it's due an oil change at 4 years ?.
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: mb on 05 August 2010, 13:21
DSG oil change is 40k miles.  I asked about it when I had my 4th year service and was told it's done by miles.
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: 2007GTI on 05 August 2010, 14:05
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=161834.0
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: simond65 on 05 August 2010, 14:14
Thanks 2007,

I saw that thread and whilst it cleared up about the cambelt and DSG oil for me, do I really need to change the water pump at 29,000 miles?

Anything else to be considered that isn't in 2007GTI's thread?

Simon
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: Stitch on 05 August 2010, 14:42
I suspect most people don't need to change the water pump but do so as it's a cheap part and thevlabour cost is much smaller while the cambelt is being done otherwise it'll cost u the same as a cambelt change if it goes at another time. Is it worth not doing it for the sake of £50 (that's the extra cost to me incl vat at a VW dealer - goes in on Monday).
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: FamilyDub on 05 August 2010, 15:24

^^^ Exactly. Although, there actually shouldn't be any additional labour charged.

The water pump is in hard to access part of the engine bay. Most people do it at the same time as the cam belt simply as a precaution.

If the pump did fail, it would be a couple of hours labour to fix. The £50 or so to do it at the same time is surely worth it...?  :smiley:
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: 2007GTI on 05 August 2010, 16:58
BOTH the dealers I've asked say £299 just for cambelt and £399 for cambelt and water pump  :sad:
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: NewbieGTi on 05 August 2010, 20:29
Thanks 2007,

I saw that thread and whilst it cleared up about the cambelt and DSG oil for me, do I really need to change the water pump at 29,000 miles?

Anything else to be considered that isn't in 2007GTI's thread?

Simon

Mine is a 2006 (06) and I had the 4 year service done, cambelt and water pump changed at around 25,000 miles. The water pump is worth doing as everyone else has said due to where is located, so much easier to get it done when doing the cambelt. I believe some of the pumps plastics are not that great which is another reason to get it done.


Most VW dealers will do deals on cambelt, tensioner arm & water pump. £299-£399 seems to be the norm.
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: FamilyDub on 06 August 2010, 17:30
BOTH the dealers I've asked say £299 just for cambelt and £399 for cambelt and water pump  :sad:

One word: haggle.  :rolleyes:

Phone Audi/SEAT/Skoda for a quote to compare and/or to get them to pricematch.
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: simond65 on 09 August 2010, 19:14
Thanks guys,

Car booked in for next week and following the advice of FamilyDub I employed a haggling strategy, consequently:

4 year major service,
Cambelt change
brake fluid change
MOT

all in for £527.

Still makes your eyes water but not too bad if you say it really quickly  :smug:

Simon
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: jaydubveedub on 11 August 2010, 12:03
Not a bad price for all of that.
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: FamilyDub on 11 August 2010, 13:17
Yeah mate, it's a lot of money, but that little lot is most of the 'big' expenses. Nice work!  :afro:

Following the advice of FamilyDub...

^^^ That's not something that is said often!  :laugh:  :kiss:  :smug:
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: NewbieGTi on 11 August 2010, 13:21
Thanks guys,

Car booked in for next week and following the advice of FamilyDub I employed a haggling strategy, consequently:

4 year major service,
Cambelt change
brake fluid change
MOT

all in for £527.

Still makes your eyes water but not too bad if you say it really quickly  :smug:

Simon

Did you get the waterpump change included?
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: simond65 on 12 August 2010, 19:55
When I called to arrange I said that I wanted the water pump changing and the dealer talked me out of it. His very words were that "if this was a Mk IV Golf then I'd reccomend it but we've had no trouble with the Mk V's and with your mileage I can't see the point in you doing it".

So, no I'm not having the water pump changed and although I hear what everyone has said if my dealer is telling me not to spend then I'm taking his word for it.

Simon
Title: Re: 4th year servicing clarification
Post by: NewbieGTi on 12 August 2010, 21:46
When I called to arrange I said that I wanted the water pump changing and the dealer talked me out of it. His very words were that "if this was a Mk IV Golf then I'd reccomend it but we've had no trouble with the Mk V's and with your mileage I can't see the point in you doing it".

So, no I'm not having the water pump changed and although I hear what everyone has said if my dealer is telling me not to spend then I'm taking his word for it.

Simon

No offence but don't listen to the dealers. If you have the water pump changed now it’s much easier job as they can access it whilst doing the cam belt. Not so easy doing it later when the cam belt is changed. Doing it now means you avoid paying an additional labour charge.

It’s also not about the mileage but the age of the car too.