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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: justalex81 on 04 August 2010, 22:21
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Volkswagen-VW-Golf-Mk3-VR6-3-2-Litre-Nothelle-tuned-/220643728929?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item335f641e21
me want!
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How could it have been sold new with the r32 lump when that did not arrive until the mk4 landed or is it bored out.
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Holy sh!tcakes. I fkucking want that car so much.
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How could it have been sold new with the r32 lump when that did not arrive until the mk4 landed or is it bored out.
Bored out. Not the R32.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/02/!ByG-llw!Wk~$(KGrHqZ,!iIEw5LHkgdIBMQZenZS+!~~_12.JPG)
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That is a tidy Mk3 with a one of a kind tuned engine, I like!
But £30k for a G3 :grin: Haaaaaaaaaaaa
Does look lovely though :)
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what do we reckon it'll sell for then?
3.4k reserve not met so far
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Whats the point of that conversion, when you can get pretty much same power with a modded 20v 1.8T?
LL is getting around 240 in his mk3, isn't he?
P.S. Front lights are ugly, the seats are gay and BBS RC's don't suit mk3's :(
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I want it! I have no space for it, I don't need it and I can't afford it, but I want it anyway!!
S.M.
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Is nice alot of money thou when new! and he says converted new but dont tht document say at like 8700 miles? , obivously i been talkin a bit bout how i want to charge the golf one way or another, was talking to my mate last nite reakon he'l do the work for me so gona save me loads, he had a r32 lump planned for his charged and 4wd, he had it planned out but then got banned, mite ,move the idea to my car, i kinda wana keep the vr6 engine in thou as its the original, granted it'l hav bits on there lol but still!
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Is nice alot of money thou when new! and he says converted new but dont tht document say at like 8700 miles? , obivously i been talkin a bit bout how i want to charge the golf one way or another, was talking to my mate last nite reakon he'l do the work for me so gona save me loads, he had a r32 lump planned for his charged and 4wd, he had it planned out but then got banned, mite ,move the idea to my car, i kinda wana keep the vr6 engine in thou as its the original, granted it'l hav bits on there lol but still!
Charge or turbo it, will be good enough ;)
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£30k new, nuts think what else that would have got.
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Whats the point of that conversion, when you can get pretty much same power with a modded 20v 1.8T?
LL is getting around 240 in his mk3, isn't he?
P.S. Front lights are ugly, the seats are gay and BBS RC's don't suit mk3's :(
When it's 1997 and the engine doesn't exist yet? :wink: Seriously rare bit of mk3 there and a nicely modded one too :cool:
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Whats the point of that conversion, when you can get pretty much same power with a modded 20v 1.8T?
LL is getting around 240 in his mk3, isn't he?
P.S. Front lights are ugly, the seats are gay and BBS RC's don't suit mk3's :(
When it's 1997 and the engine doesn't exist yet? :wink: Seriously rare bit of mk3 there and a nicely modded one too :cool:
Yes, I do agree that it's unique and probably sounds awesome, but in terms of cost/power, it's massive waste of money.
30 grand for THAT? No, thanks.
I'm not saying what else you could buy for that, but I'm talking about how much power you would have, if you have spent all that money on modding a 20v 1.8T or even a VR.
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Whats the point of that conversion, when you can get pretty much same power with a modded 20v 1.8T?
LL is getting around 240 in his mk3, isn't he?
P.S. Front lights are ugly, the seats are gay and BBS RC's don't suit mk3's :(
When it's 1997 and the engine doesn't exist yet? :wink: Seriously rare bit of mk3 there and a nicely modded one too :cool:
Yes, I do agree that it's unique and probably sounds awesome, but in terms of cost/power, it's massive waste of money.
30 grand for THAT? No, thanks.
Spot on that was more than Bmw M3 money then.
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Although i like i don't think i would pay that much for it!
But then you have to remember this car was probably around 20K brand new any way! So a VR6 with 8000 miles, 3.2 rebored engine in 1998 is pretty much the same as buying a brand new mk4 R32 in 2002....
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£30k new, nuts think what else that would have got.
just to point out guys the 30k is what it sold for at a year old. It actually sold for 45k brand new!!!!!!
what it sells for now is what will be interesting!
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With all the 'Watchers' from this site, he's going to think his luck is in!
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With all the 'Watchers' from this site, he's going to think his luck is in!
haha you know it lol
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£30k new, nuts think what else that would have got.
just to point out guys the 30k is what it sold for at a year old. It actually sold for 45k brand new!!!!!!
what it sells for now is what will be interesting!
:shocked: who in their right mind pays £45k for a Golf, are they safe to be walking the streets.
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i don't think so. however it is one of a kind and i doubt another one exists, so an obscene amount of rocking horse sh1t tax would have been on that price.
still want though :grin:
and a f$ck off big supercharger :laugh:
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i don't think so. however it is one of a kind and i doubt another one exists, so an obscene amount of rocking horse sh1t tax would have been on that price.
still want though :grin:
and a f$ck off big supercharger :laugh:
Why? R32 lump is leagues ahead and is a much better engine, don't forget that is still only the old block and 12v head.
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Why? R32 lump is leagues ahead and is a much better engine, don't forget that is still only the old block and 12v head.
Yup...
Lighter engine, better revving...more power.
This 3.2 must be a low revving torque monster...and I'd hate to try to refresh it at 3.2 litres...it must be close to the limits on bore size.
Sounds like it's still on standard valve sizes too...Hmm...
Makes you wonder how much good the cams/capacity are actually doing.
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Why? R32 lump is leagues ahead and is a much better engine, don't forget that is still only the old block and 12v head.
Yup...
Lighter engine, better revving...more power.
This 3.2 must be a low revving torque monster...and I'd hate to try to refresh it at 3.2 litres...it must be close to the limits on bore size.
Sounds like it's still on standard valve sizes too...Hmm...
Makes you wonder how much good the cams/capacity are actually doing.
The rebore puzzles me to be honest, having seen a bare block and worked on a few, they do not have a lot of meat in the cylinder block unless they have changed the crank which I doubt however it does say modified crank whatever that means.
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The rebore puzzles me to be honest, having seen a bare block and worked on a few, they do not have a lot of meat in the cylinder block unless they have changed the crank which I doubt.
They must have.
I didn't think you could go much over 3.0/3.1 on pistons alone...must be a stroker crank.
I suspect 'modified' crankshaft either means 'changed to a longer stroke crank' or it's been offset ground on the big ends.
At the cost of the conversion, I'd expect a long stroke crank.
So a lower revving, torquey 3.2.
Doesn't state the cam choice either...
I can't believe a reputable tuner would go to the lengths of a new crank, pistons, cams, Schrick manifold...and keep the standard valve sizes either!
Must have Schrick valves...+2mm.
At the cost, I'd expect so.
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You can clearly see in the pics its a VR6 engine due to the trim either side of the manifold. Also the manifold looks like a poorly made cross between the standard and schrick one.
If its being dubbed as a R32, has he added the 12 extra valves?
(i havnt read the 3 pages, cba, so if its a repost, apologies)
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You can clearly see in the pics its a VR6 engine due to the trim either side of the manifold. Also the manifold looks like a poorly made cross between the standard and schrick one.
If its being dubbed as a R32, has he added the 12 extra valves?
(i havnt read the 3 pages, cba, so if its a repost, apologies)
Nope it is still only a 12v
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:shocked: who in their right mind pays £45k for a Golf, are they safe to be walking the streets.
how much does the new Golf R cost by the time you've added some options?
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Also the manifold looks like a poorly made cross between the standard and schrick one.
It's a bog standard Schrick, with their logo machined off by the looks of it, and a R32 badge stuck on.
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how much does the new Golf R cost by the time you've added some options?
Just over £40k with every option, including leather Recaro buckets, Sat Nav and DSG.
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:shocked: who in their right mind pays £45k for a Golf, are they safe to be walking the streets.
how much does the new Golf R cost by the time you've added some options?
Yep but I would never spend £40k plus on a Golf not when you look at other options.
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:shocked: who in their right mind pays £45k for a Golf, are they safe to be walking the streets.
how much does the new Golf R cost by the time you've added some options?
Yep but I would never spend £40k plus on a Golf not when you look at other options.
What are the realistic options if you want a premium hatch, with 4WD, 5 doors and 270 BHP?
It sits on it's own...or along with other VAG models at around the same price.
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:shocked: who in their right mind pays £45k for a Golf, are they safe to be walking the streets.
how much does the new Golf R cost by the time you've added some options?
Yep but I would never spend £40k plus on a Golf not when you look at other options.
What are the realistic options if you want a premium hatch, with 4WD, 5 doors and 270 BHP?
It sits on it's own...or along with other VAG models at around the same price.
Focus RS?
No, im just joking. Lets not start that again.
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id rather a second hand 2008/9 M3 they are going for low 30s now
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:shocked: who in their right mind pays £45k for a Golf, are they safe to be walking the streets.
how much does the new Golf R cost by the time you've added some options?
Yep but I would never spend £40k plus on a Golf not when you look at other options.
What are the realistic options if you want a premium hatch, with 4WD, 5 doors and 270 BHP?
It sits on it's own...or along with other VAG models at around the same price.
Fair point but if you did not want a hatch etc.
Focus Rs which before anyone shouts chav I know is in a different league and aimed at a lower point in the market is around £25k new of you could get a s/h M3 or M5.
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id rather a second hand 2008/9 M3 they are going for low 30s now
Ok...or you could buy a 911.
But then there are running costs...you don't get a 3 year warranty, 30+ MPG and 3 years servicing for £250 from an M3.
Do the sums...and it makes sense to many.
If it didn't make sense to many, there wouldn't be a long waiting list.
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Fair point but if you did not want a hatch etc.
If you didn't specifically want a hatch, you wouldn't have looked at a Golf.
If I wanted one, would I spend £40k on it?
Yeah. I almost did.
But decided a tuned GTI was more fun and individual for the same outlay.
If you wanted an M3, M5 or 911, you wouldn't find yourself in a VW showroom.
Been there, done that...got sick of paying the high running costs.
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Fair point but if you did not want a hatch etc.
If you didn't specifically want a hatch, you wouldn't have looked at a Golf.
If I wanted one, would I spend £40k on it?
Yeah. I almost did.
But decided a tuned GTI was more fun and individual for the same outlay.
If you wanted an M3, M5 or 911, you wouldn't find yourself in a VW showroom.
Been there, done that...got sick of paying the high running costs.
Fair point :smiley:
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Where are people getting "R32" from? The inlet mani says "n 3.2"....
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Listing ended, I wonder did it sell.
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The guy wanted a Nothelle converted VR6, he went out and bought a Nothelle Conversion VR6, I don't see the problem here :huh: Sure he could have bought an M3 at the time, but clearly he didn't want one. It's like saying 'why did you have a turkey sandwhich when the beef sandwhich is the same price?' and your mate answering 'Because I like Turkey? :huh:'
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you'd have to be a fool to chose turkey over beef if it's the same price!
:grin:
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looks sh!t, but its a interesting engine and a rare conversion, so i kind of like it regardless of what it cost when it was new, its not new anymore so thats not so much a issue now is it..
back in 97 when this was new, id rather have had a Escort cossie... and still would :grin: :cool:
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I will own a cossie at some point :) jus on the side for a laugh, wont be an escort thou, has to be a saf :) r32 into vr6 golf now must be one of the cheepest power/cost mods now if you were mechanically minded enough to fit it yourself, £1000 for the engine, gona pretty much go straight in, and if you wana cut out a tunnel for the 4wd your gona be laughin, just need to know what your doing or know some1 and it wont cost to much
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Just noticed, this beasty has been up on Pistonheads too. Advertised at £5300.
S.M.
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Just noticed, this beasty has been up on Pistonheads too. Advertised at £5300.
S.M.
:shocked: ouch