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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: harvey183 on 18 July 2010, 17:53
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Hi all!
Have been looking on here for a while and now i need some help please, before i ask though i will just give you my previous!
10 VW mk6 golf gtd
08 Mini cooper s
08 Audi S3
55 Audi A3 3.2 dsg
VW mk4 (jabber re map etc)
Evo 4
Peugeot 306 gti6..................
and the list goes on!
My GTD is white and i'm not sure if anyone else is having the same problem but its covered in tar after only 1600 miles! I always use Autosmart washing products but the tardis seems to be a little harsh! or is the paintwork not hard enough yet for something this harsh? Any tips for tar removal would be great! am really struggling!
I know you might tell me that this should of been in the detailing section but i want to get the attention of mk6 owners as more of them have white cars. Thanks
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Hi and welcome
My wife'car is white and I'm a bit of a detailer myself :grin:
As you say white does show up tar spots and Tardis (which I also use btw) is quite harsh.
I've found that some tar spots will wash/polish off if you keep your car well waxed/sealed.
However some other tar spots are a PITA to get rid of, and Tardis is needed. It really seems quite random ... some months hardly any spots appear, and then suddenly it can get coated in them. Hopefully you've been unlucky and just had one of the latter :sad:
I have resigned myself now to putting up with some of the tar spots and only giving it a full Tardis treatment every 6 months, followed immediately with a good wash, rinse, polish and wax.
For the odd few stubborn spots try a bit of Autoglym Super Resin Polish or a dab of Tardis on a cloth
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Hi all!
My GTD is white and i'm not sure if anyone else is having the same problem but its covered in tar after only 1600 miles! I always use Autosmart washing products but the tardis seems to be a little harsh! or is the paintwork not hard enough yet for something this harsh? Any tips for tar removal would be great! am really struggling!
I find the main problems areas are the lower front wings/doors and the boot. I use clay and a hard wax (Collinite) twice a year (and use clay to remove the spots).
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what type of clay do you use if you don' mind me asking? I seem to get tar all the time but I do live out in the sticks!
you're right,but the boot and the back bumper seem to be the worst on mine! nightmare! thought tar was meant to stay on the road! lol
cheers for the info!
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No the feeling, I tried 2 different tar removers from Halfords. Both no good. Now after the car has been clean I use a synthetic Chamois I got from Halfords and a good old dollop of spit, and elbow grease. I now keep on top of them and this method seems to work a treat. Oh and a bloody lot cheaper than the junk you can buy.
Ben
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what type of clay do you use if you don' mind me asking? I seem to get tar all the time but I do live out in the sticks!
you're right,but the boot and the back bumper seem to be the worst on mine! nightmare! thought tar was meant to stay on the road! lol
cheers for the info!
I use Bilt-Hamber Auto Clay (Soft version) because you can just use water as a lubricant (mixed with a tiny bit of car shampoo is good).
http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/bilt-hamber/auto-clay-soft.aspx
1. Remove spots
2. Apply wax (Collinite 476 Super Double Coat Wax)
3. Wax will make it easier to remove spots next time
4. Repeat twice a year or more if you have OCD
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Harvey183 - I've had no problems removing any tar spots from my CW GTI with just a little bit of polish. I clean mine a couple of times a week and use a quick detailing wax evey couple of weeks so to be honest I don't get much road grime on the car :smiley:
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I have tried a lot of different clay bars and Meguiars Mild Detailing clay (the blue one) is probably the best all-rounder.
I had the Xymol one but it was quite harsh and I found the Bilt-Hammer one didn't las too long.
If you get the car completely clayed then get some sealer and a few coats of wax on it, the tar should not stick to it too well. It can then normally be removed while washing the car or with a little bit of Autoglym Super Resin if needed.
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I get them all the time aswell, does my t*ts in! :angry:
Same as everyone else though, micro fibre cloth, wee bit of polish and hey presto! I wouldnt want to be claying eveytime i got them though, you car will be covered in swirl marks :undecided:
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Virgin White like Candy White will always get soiled with time. :evil: :laugh:
Hell to maintain and such hard work. Best of luck to all of you as this would drive me potty. I cannot help but admire your patience. :smiley:
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If there are enough coats of wax applied to the car, the tar will not need to be removed with clay/tardis etc. It should come off during the normal washing process.
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If there are enough coats of wax applied to the car, the tar will not need to be removed with clay/tardis etc. It should come off during the normal washing process.
I use the Toughseal system and any damage is reduced considerably. Even swirl marks are eradicated and cannot be introduced. So far, so good. :rolleyes:
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If there are enough coats of wax applied to the car, the tar will not need to be removed with clay/tardis etc. It should come off during the normal washing process.
You can only apply 1 wax coat to a car.
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but the boot and the back bumper seem to be the worst on mine! nightmare! thought tar was meant to stay on the road! lol
That type sounds like it may come off easier then, as it has'nt come directly off the tyre. Try a bit of SRP or clay as suggested.
They resurfaced the roads with tar & loose chippings near us last October / November and both our cars were covered around the sills and lower door area. Had to resort to Tardis and a Steam Cleaner for that lot :angry:
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..........Even swirl marks are eradicated and cannot be introduced............
If only that were true :sad:
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..........Even swirl marks are eradicated and cannot be introduced............
If only that were true :sad:
No, neary rarery. Whoops, having a Chinese meal!
As I said, so far so good.
No swirl marks yet, I promise. :smiley:
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If there are enough coats of wax applied to the car, the tar will not need to be removed with clay/tardis etc. It should come off during the normal washing process.
You can only apply 1 wax coat to a car.
Please explain why only 1 coat can be applied, this doesn't make sense to me.
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If there are enough coats of wax applied to the car, the tar will not need to be removed with clay/tardis etc. It should come off during the normal washing process.
You can only apply 1 wax coat to a car.
Please explain why only 1 coat can be applied, this doesn't make sense to me.
Wax does not 'sit' on top of wax, it cannot bond with itself. If you apply it twice, all you are doing is giving better coverage, so if you missed a bit from your first application its generally ok to apply it again for coverage. What you are not doing is applying a coat on top of a coat, its impossible to do.
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I might have to disagree with you on that one. Why do all of the professional detailers apply one coat, let it cure, remove it, then repeat this process 3-4 times?
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I might have to disagree with you on that one. Why do all of the professional detailers apply one coat, let it cure, remove it, then repeat this process 3-4 times?
For coverage. And if they have to do this 3-4 times, they are either, a) talking sh!te, or b) god awful at applying it.
I've told you the answer previously, its up to you to believe it or not.
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To make sure they have covered the whole car.
The more wax you put on the more you are actually dulling the shine!!
There seems to be a split in opinion on whether any more than a couple of layers is doing any good at all.
Have a look through these links. Some very interesting reading.
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=156781 (http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=156781)
Here are some scientific tests regarding layering waxes
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=127943 (http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=127943)
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=130901 (http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=130901)
EDIT: Kev beat me to it :wink:
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Just to annoy VWKev, I am going to say he is talking rubbish :grin:
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Just to annoy VWKev, I am going to say he is talking rubbish :grin:
:grin: b!tch.
I have a white car, so I apply wax twice. It's only because it's so hard to see on a white car and I just know I've missed a bit somewhere.
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Well, I agree with Kev [last post anyway :wink:].
I did a couple of coats of Jetseal then 2 x wax a couple of weeks back and it was difficult to see where I'd covered.
Ava
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Well, I agree with Kev [last post anyway :wink:].
I did a couple of coats of Jetseal then 2 x wax a couple of weeks back and it was difficult to see where I'd covered.
Ava
Ava, if you have a white car, wear sunglasses. Honestly, it improves the process ten fold. It's still hard to see perfectly, but miles better than the naked eye.
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White can be very tiring to the eye.
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White can be very tiring to the eye.
In what way ?
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White can be very tiring to the eye.
In what way ?
White contains all the colours in the rainbow so your optical procesing is more easily saturated especially in bright sunlight.
Ever been to a sun drenched Greek Island with white houses everywhere? Blinding and then burning!
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White can be very tiring to the eye.
In what way ?
White contains all the colours in the rainbow so your optical procesing is more easily saturated especially in bright sunlight.
Ever been to a sun drenched Greek Island with white houses everywhere. Blinding and then burning!
Ah ok. I live in Glasgow though, I never see any bright sunlight :grin:
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White can be very tiring to the eye.
In what way ?
White contains all the colours in the rainbow so your optical procesing is more easily saturated especially in bright sunlight.
Ever been to a sun drenched Greek Island with white houses everywhere. Blinding and then burning!
Ah ok. I live in Glasgow though, I never see any bright sunlight :grin:
Christ, you must be cleaning your car like a demon on a mission of mercy!
Will be visiting Glasgow Sept or Nov. Not sure yet. Staying at Langs.
Want to meet-up for a romp? :grin:
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White can be very tiring to the eye.
In what way ?
White contains all the colours in the rainbow so your optical procesing is more easily saturated especially in bright sunlight.
Ever been to a sun drenched Greek Island with white houses everywhere. Blinding and then burning!
Ah ok. I live in Glasgow though, I never see any bright sunlight :grin:
Christ, you must be cleaning your car like a demon on a mission of mercy!
Will be visiting Glasgow Sept or Nov. Not sure yet. Staying at Langs.
Want to meet-up for a romp? :grin:
Yeah we could do, I'm on holiday aug and sept, but let me know when you have a definate date.
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Well, I agree with Kev [last post anyway :wink:].
I did a couple of coats of Jetseal then 2 x wax a couple of weeks back and it was difficult to see where I'd covered.
Ava
What a great suggestion - will give it a whirl this weekend; thanks!
Ava
Ava, if you have a white car, wear sunglasses. Honestly, it improves the process ten fold. It's still hard to see perfectly, but miles better than the naked eye.
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I always wear my Oakleys when detailing mine, its just much better to see wear the wax is !! :cool:
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I always wear my Oakleys when detailing mine, its just much better to see wear the wax is !! :cool:
Welcome back Steve. Hope you had a good holiday. :smiley:
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I always wear my Oakleys when detailing mine, its just much better to see wear the wax is !! :cool:
You think waxing is difficult, try machine polishing, its fine to start with but figuring out when the polish has gone clear so you know you have worked it properly/long enough, its a god damn son of a b!tch.
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I always wear my Oakleys when detailing mine, its just much better to see wear the wax is !! :cool:
Welcome back Steve. Hope you had a good holiday. :smiley:
Yea thanks for that its good to be back (not) all good things come to an end I suppose :smug:!! Just been for a spin its so nice to be back in my car bliss, I only saw 2 VW's in nearly 4 weeks across Thailand 1 rocco & a mk3 . I hired a Honda Jazz for 2 weeks what a load crap good air con though in Honda's I must say!! :cool: