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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: PenguinGTI on 09 June 2010, 22:58
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Right guys I'm looking to learn some more about my engine.
I don't know any engine codes beyond k03 and k04 for the turbos so please forgive my novice tongue.
I'll start with my (possibly incorrect) beliefs.
The Mk5 engine with k03 was around 200 hp and a stage 1 went to 240 hp
The mk5 engine with k04 was around 230 hp and stage 1 went to 270hp
the mk6 engine with k03 is around 205 hp and stage 1 has taken mine to 270 bhp.
What has changed between the mk5 and mk6 engines (with ko3 turbos) to allow such a difference in remap potential?
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The Mk5 BWA KO3 can produce 214 BHP with V-power on it's own
The KO4 Mk5 produces 230 but remapped can produce 300 BHP.
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40-50 horses is the usual gain from a remap but a few of the mk6 engines have been dyno'd at over 22o stock so the remap has taken then to the realms of 270-275.
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alrighty... so i take it mark 5's were pretty much 200hp from the factory when dynoed.
I assumed that all VAG cars produced a but more than quoted and was therefore wondering why the headroom on the mk6 was so much higher than the headroom on the mk5.
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http://www.my-gti.com/1046/differences-between-the-gti-mark-v-and-mark-vi-engine
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Right guys I'm looking to learn some more about my engine.
I don't know any engine codes beyond k03 and k04 for the turbos so please forgive my novice tongue.
I'll start with my (possibly incorrect) beliefs.
The Mk5 engine with k03 was around 200 hp and a stage 1 went to 240 hp
The mk5 engine with k04 was around 230 hp and stage 1 went to 270hp
the mk6 engine with k03 is around 205 hp and stage 1 has taken mine to 270 bhp.
What has changed between the mk5 and mk6 engines (with ko3 turbos) to allow such a difference in remap potential?
The rollers you went on require re-calibrating :smiley:
Rolling road days regually held here, as an example. Though no mk6's in the gallerys.
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/GalleryRollingroad.htm
Standard mk5 GTi after remap 235-240
Edition 30 with K04 after stage 1 270bhp
Mk6 GTi after stage 1 around 250bhp
add Cold intake and full exhaust to see another 20bhp on average
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Quote:.......You cant beat the feeling with a knob in your hand lol ....Unquote
Poor inexperienced chap.....If you go DSG .....it will be D*ck S*cking Great......done for you.
Just give it a try and I'll promise you will learn fast.... :evil:
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40-50 horses is the usual gain from a remap but a few of the mk6 engines have been dyno'd at over 22o stock so the remap has taken then to the realms of 270-275.
Spot on...40ish genuine BHP is about right for a generic remap.
Any more, and the dyno is lying...
And if people think standard Mk6 GTIs make 230+ BHP they are more stupid than I gave them credit for!
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220 BHP (with a 223 BHP as top) are measured standard MK VI GTI's on the JD Engineering Roller Banks...40-45 BHP as a remap is a reality so the most you can get out of it is say 270 BHP.....if you are lucky......if less lucky 260 is the average...not to be sneezed at.... :wink:
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http://www.abt-sportsline.de/uploads/tx_comabt/5K0_120_260_CCZB_DSG_E.pdf
You can check the VW tuner.......in short when you bring in 210 you get 260...they give you a guaranteed 50 extra
However there figures are ....let's say carefully choosen....meaning...acc in 6.4 sec is in real live sooner 6 sec in various clocking and the newtons can get up to 392 in measuring.....but actually who cares after remapping your car is the fastest on the motorway that is unless you bump into exotic cars... :evil:
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220 BHP (with a 223 BHP as top) are measured standard MK VI GTI's on the JD Engineering Roller Banks...40-45 BHP as a remap is a reality so the most you can get out of it is say 270 BHP.....if you are lucky......if less lucky 260 is the average...not to be sneezed at.... :wink:
I would think that if you get a genuine 260 BHP from an otherwise standard Mk6 GTI and a generic re-map you are doing very well...
Anything more - without further modifications - is just dreaming and optimistic dynos.
250+ BHP with decent peak torque and a good torque spread, makes for a quick car that feels like it's got more...
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I can only quote the measurements I have no insight how the measurement-machines are calibrated.. :wink:
I do agree that 250 BHP should be giving you actually all you want.
They said I was close to 270 but I just drove the thing and it was fast enough, I do not bother to check it independantly for 100 euro's and come to the conclusion that I may have a very fast 250..... :laugh:
That is 40-45 with an easy DOB....unless you are a freak (positive) and want to go all the way I reckon another extra 40-50 BHP on top of that is far more apealing than discussing a 10 BHP difference....for them there is a stage 2 and 3 and 4 and.......450 BHP is the most they can get out of it...... after that the poor car is breaking down.. :evil:....
Mind you a fuel difference oct 98 instead of oct 95 can give you the 10 BHP (again measured)...