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Title: Toyo R888's
Post by: Horney on 24 May 2010, 14:05
Just a heads up for anyone looking for some in 195/50 R15 GG flavour. Tyre Traders have them a £75. That's bout £50 a tyre cheaper than Camskill.

Now apparently Tyretraders are no longer an authorised dealer so either they are out of stock and it's an old listing or they're selling off old stock. Either way I've ordered a pair and I'll post up if they actually arrive!

nick
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Horney on 24 May 2010, 16:42
Just had an email to say they've been shipped.

Lets see what arrives!

Nick
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Diamond Hell on 24 May 2010, 16:50
Could be a proper result.  Keep us posted - I need a pair  :smiley:
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: danny_p on 24 May 2010, 20:16
i need 4

unless it's caged in time, then i'll be on the remoulds  :evil:
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Horney on 25 May 2010, 09:40
Well they've tried to deliver but I'm at work so I'll have to pick them up from the DHL depot tonight or tomorrow. Bit of a pain they only deliver to the cardholders address but oh well.

Nick
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Horney on 25 May 2010, 15:43
I think I got the last 2!

http://www.tyretraders.com/tyreInformation.aspx?ItemID=TOY19550R1582VR888SG

nick
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: danny_p on 25 May 2010, 19:36
looks like i better get a cage in.

been gone a nuked funds  so have a choice of  slicks or toyo tr1's
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Horney on 25 May 2010, 20:47
Got em and they are the correct tyre. Well chuffed.

Danny, I'd go for slicks if you can mate. Lots of folks have said T1R's are great in the wet/damp but get destroyed through over heating on a full on dry/hot day.

Nick
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Paul86S2 on 25 May 2010, 23:16
Danny, I'd go for slicks if you can mate. Lots of folks have said T1R's are great in the wet/damp but get destroyed through over heating on a full on dry/hot day.

Nick
I had T1R's on at Combe last year and they survived the day (wet morning dry afternoon). The same set have also done a couple of other trackdays as well (mostly wet mornings and drier afternoons). Can't be trying hard enough.

Has anyone looked at or tried or read any reviews on the new Toyo R1R's (semi trackday tyre)

Paul
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: danny_p on 26 May 2010, 11:31
allready hve the slicks and tthe tr1's  thats why there my ony choices.

but a littel bird tells me that if you run slicks on trackdays the marashals are more anal than normal esp at coomb.  apparently you have tro have cage in and it be bone dry otherewise you can't play.

may be very tempted to just run with the toyo tr1's if the cage isn't in tho.    as marshalls do get upset with you overtaking in corners and thats where the syncro make's most ground and if allowed would overtake most stuff.   so thinking if i have  less grip i'll be slower but maybe more fun
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 26 May 2010, 11:34
you should be ok, the 928 days seem very relaxed. Dont remember even getting sound tested at silverstone?


the general rule though is slicks need a cage, as you mentioned

my r888's are looking very worn, i was gonna keep the fronts on the front and wear out 2 at a time, but now the prices have gone up im gonna run them backwards on opposite corners for combe, wear them all out and look for a different tyre
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 26 May 2010, 11:56
Has anyone looked at or tried or read any reviews on the new Toyo R1R's (semi trackday tyre)

They look good but not a lot cheaper than r888's, so i don't really see the point. They look like they will be a bit better in the wet though
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Diamond Hell on 26 May 2010, 13:26
as marshalls do get upset with you overtaking in corners and thats where the syncro make's most ground and if allowed would overtake most stuff.   so thinking if i have  less grip i'll be slower but maybe more fun

I have a video featuring a black flag resulting from that problem.

you should be ok, the 928 days seem very relaxed. Dont remember even getting sound tested at silverstone?

It's totally dependent on the track, nothing to do with the organisers.  Goodwood are epically anal, Combe are reasonably keen too - both on Richard's events.  At Combe you won't get on track without your noise test sticker and you'll only get that by going through the noise-test shed and talking to the old duffers.

T1-Rs are OK unless it's searingly hot.  Under normal conditions you'll roll rubber off the tyres, if it's proper hot they'll go off halfway through a session, leaving you wondering where all your grip went.

As I understand it there have been some issues with the early R1-Rs.  We're likely to see more of their ilk in the future, as there's talk about 'track day tyres' being legislated off the market.  Understandable given their standing water performance.  :grin:
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Horney on 26 May 2010, 14:04
you should be ok, the 928 days seem very relaxed. Dont remember even getting sound tested at silverstone?

Silverstone decided not to bother and were only going to throw anyone off if they failed the drivebay ones they have out on circuit.

Castle COmbe is 100dB I think, lol @ the old duffers comment DH.

Nick
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: s1monc on 26 May 2010, 14:18
Just dug out my invoice from Tyretraders dated Feb 2010, i bought x4 R888 in 195/50/15 for £247 del which works out at £61.75 each inc del !!! What a deal that was :smiley: Did a trackday 2 weeks ago & now my n/s/f tyre is illegal but the problem i have is i don't have a spare set of wheels with road tyres yet as theirs loads more wear left in the tyre for trackdays.

Simon.
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Horney on 26 May 2010, 14:33
Wha compound where they? You shouldn't kill one in a day on a Golf unless your tracking is badly out like mine was.

Nick
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: s1monc on 26 May 2010, 15:41
Yes the tracking is out, i had the whole front end in bits to renew bushes,coilovers,weld wishbones,trackrod end,driveshaft gaitors etc etc & have not had any alignment done yet :huh:because i have to remove a faulty strut/coilover again 1st & sort that before alignment, i think its toeing out by the looks of it. They were SG compound too so won't last as long, the other 3 tyres are ok, o/s tyres have hardly any wear.

Simon.
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Horney on 26 May 2010, 15:45
Yes the tracking is out, i had the whole front end in bits to renew bushes,coilovers,weld wishbones,trackrod end,driveshaft gaitors etc etc & have not had any alignment done yet :huh:because i have to remove a faulty strut/coilover again 1st & sort that before alignment, i think its toeing out by the looks of it. They were SG compound too so won't last as long, the other 3 tyres are ok, o/s tyres have hardly any wear.

Simon.


Doubly whammy then! I've been told a pair of SG fronts will only last one or two trackdays at best. I got 3 out of my front GG's and they'd also done the ring and several other trackdays in the hands of the last owner. One of them still has 50% tread but the outside one is dead as like you I ran with the tracking not set correctly.

Nick
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 26 May 2010, 17:10
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b0s662p4057

anyone tried these? £50 a corner they might be worth a try  :huh:
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Horney on 26 May 2010, 17:14
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b0s662p4057

anyone tried these? £50 a corner they might be worth a try  :huh:

Mixed reviews here:

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Hankook/Ventus-RS2-Z212.htm

nick
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Paul86S2 on 26 May 2010, 20:36
allready hve the slicks and tthe tr1's  thats why there my ony choices.

but a littel bird tells me that if you run slicks on trackdays the marashals are more anal than normal esp at coomb.  apparently you have tro have cage in and it be bone dry otherewise you can't play.

may be very tempted to just run with the toyo tr1's if the cage isn't in tho.    as marshalls do get upset with you overtaking in corners and thats where the syncro make's most ground and if allowed would overtake most stuff.   so thinking if i have  less grip i'll be slower but maybe more fun

"Cars fitted with slick tyres are only permitted subject to strict monitoring of driving standards"

This is stolen from Combes own trackday regulations. No mention of a cage needed. I know on the action days they won't let you out on slicks at all.

Paul
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: danny_p on 27 May 2010, 11:35
(http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/images/product/enlarge/max_r15_rb5_mld_slick_sc.jpg)

they don't come in 195/50/15 but do come in 205/55/15    @  £55-60 per corner those are going to be m choice of cut slick not road legal tho
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Horney on 27 May 2010, 11:49
Tarmac rally tyres right? Seen some good reviews of these types of tyres although a lot of comments about them being hard to get well balanced being remoulds.

Nick
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 27 May 2010, 11:50
what are they?

have you got 2 sets of wheels? just take both sets along and use the toyo if slicks aren't allowed
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: danny_p on 27 May 2010, 18:51
i've got quite a few sets of 15" J7 rims in 4x100  :smiley:   

if i drive there it'll be on the toyos  as they'll be he only road legal rubber i have.  tho quite likely to be a girl and dring it down on trailer.  if i'm allowed slicks they'll go on if not i'll kill the tr1's or wang them on if ive go them.

yup there tarmac rally tires.  as for getting them balanced they may need a few more weights but if there good enough for competitive rally cars and they use them they cant be that bad.   and the price diffence between them and r888's is proably the cost of a track day
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: Paul86S2 on 27 May 2010, 20:15
(http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/images/product/enlarge/max_r15_rb5_mld_slick_sc.jpg)

they don't come in 195/50/15 but do come in 205/55/15    @  £55-60 per corner those are going to be m choice of cut slick not road legal tho
What make are they? Maxsport or Indysport.

I've got the Indysport ones on a set of 16 inch wheels, 205 45 16 and they are good tyres. Only had then on twice due to the sh!t weather at last years track days. They stuck really well once warmed up. No problem getting them balanced.

I'm fairly certain that ears motorsport do one of the following two makes in 195 50 15 but their website is down at the moment.

No problem using these at Combe either because they are cut.

Paul
Title: Re: Toyo R888's
Post by: danny_p on 27 May 2010, 20:21
maxsport. 

will look up indysport to to see if they do 195/50/15 or 205/50/15.