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Title: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: T_J_G on 08 May 2010, 18:55
Not feeling the love for my car like I used to. Money issues have stopped me doing what I wanted from when I bought it. It's either stop playing with it, sell it, or drop it on some nice rims and leave it (when funds allow. I keep spending silly money on stupid little things like £85 on a set of wipers!

When is it time to move on?  :undecided:

Undecided of Kent.
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: Adam on 08 May 2010, 20:12
What would you buy instead? Would you spend silly amounts of money on that?
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: JC on 08 May 2010, 20:13
 :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: £85 on wipers  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: Adam on 08 May 2010, 20:15
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: £85 on wipers  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Less than what I paid  :lipsrsealed: :embarassed:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: T_J_G on 08 May 2010, 20:26
What would you buy instead? Would you spend silly amounts of money on that?

I've no idea to be honest. Something reliable :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 08 May 2010, 20:58
im in the same boat as you mate, never have any money therefore cant do what i planned to do with the car, hopefully things will be changing soon and i will have money tho so im gonna try and ride it out then when i have money do what i can to it to get it looking tidy :)
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: Martz on 08 May 2010, 22:54
85 on wipers? Fook mate!
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: *tell* on 08 May 2010, 23:12
im kind off thinking the same with the mk3 16v.
 :cry:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 09 May 2010, 09:33
Stop spending money on tat for your cars and get out on a track day.

Unless I'm mistaken you probably have a lot more to learn about the cars you have at the moment and don't even realise it.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: JC on 09 May 2010, 09:35
85 on wipers? Fook mate!

mate - i am still in shock

aero wipers - ebay - £13 a pair.

and fook me, they clear water off the screen  :laugh: :grin:

i have bought cars for £15 more than they spent on wipers :grin:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: T_J_G on 09 May 2010, 09:41
These were new arms as well!

Oh and DH, taking a Golf 4 on a track :grin: I have got a lot to learn but I'll do the track idea when I have money and a car I don't need to travel to work etc in!
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: dTEA on 09 May 2010, 09:42
I completely understand that sentiment
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: monkeyalan on 09 May 2010, 10:11
i went from a modded mk2 16v to a standard primera gt.
one was a pain in the arse cost a fortune to keep going and looked nice , the other was a nissan.
having said that i still think it was the right decission.
I think I just grew out of wasting/spending money on something i didn't need to just to get it how i wanted , then get bored with it.
I'm with clarkson now, most cars are as good as they can be from the factory depending on what you pay for. A heavliy modded mk5 gti might be faster round a track but i bet it's not as good day to day.   
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: MrBounce on 09 May 2010, 10:13
i went from a modded mk2 16v to a standard primera gt.
one was a pain in the arse cost a fortune to keep going and looked nice , the other was a nissan.
having said that i still think it was the right decission.
I think I just grew out of wasting/spending money on something i didn't need to just to get it how i wanted , then get bored with it.
I'm with clarkson now, most cars are as good as they can be from the factory depending on what you pay for. A heavliy modded mk5 gti might be faster round a track but i bet it's not as good day to day.   
Agree 100% with this. It's exactly why I haven't modded the Bora. There will be another car for this eventually  :smiley:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 09 May 2010, 10:48
A heavliy modded mk5 gti might be faster round a track but i bet it's not as good day to day.   

Talk to Hurdy.  His was doing daily duties for some time with 350bhp.  Not sure whether it is now, but a properly performance modded car will be fun to drive and significantly faster than OEM.

You're going to tell me remapping a 130bhp TDi to 170bhp isn't going to improve it?

Too scared to do track days because it's your only drive?  Bless. Man-up or get a cheaper car.  You will not have more fun in your car.

Or sell it and get another console or something  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: monkeyalan on 09 May 2010, 11:12
i'm fully aware of hurdys car and like i said , i'm sure it is faster round a track and of course it can be used day to day, but i'll stand by my point that it wont be as pleasant to use as the standard version.
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: RandomJord on 09 May 2010, 11:52
I'm well feeling like this about my car at the mo, recently with
moving an business an other 'growing up' responsibilities it does make you question if it's all worth it. Don't know if I can justify spending ££££ on it in return for what is to be honest, a car only useable 2 or 3 times a year! Especially when I ideally need another van for work shiz


Plus I've been looking at rallyes.....
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 09 May 2010, 12:08
i'm fully aware of hurdys car and like i said , i'm sure it is faster round a track and of course it can be used day to day, but i'll stand by my point that it wont be as pleasant to use as the standard version.

Certainly not in Aus, where you can't do much over 50mph anywhere without fretting about your license.

But in the UK, on roads that are very lightly policed I know when I drive my Golf I f*cking love it way more than anything else, but then I probably have more invested in it emotionally than those who have just furtled around the edges with the trim and other minor stuff like remaps and diverter valves.

With Hurdy's car it's not that it *can* be used day to day, it's that it *has* been used daily for months and years.  I fail to see how it is so much less pleasant than standard?

A lot of people's opinion seems to have been informed after spending not much on not very good 'performance' upgrades like coilovers and other tat.

Spend proper money carefully and you will improve the handling of a car (and performance), without compromising the ride and certainly not the performance.  To do this you need to not be precious about ride height and BS things like that.

Or just move on.
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: monkeyalan on 09 May 2010, 12:29
i'm fully aware of hurdys car and like i said , i'm sure it is faster round a track and of course it can be used day to day, but i'll stand by my point that it wont be as pleasant to use as the standard version.

Certainly not in Aus, where you can't do much over 50mph anywhere without fretting about your license.


change the record fella , you've worn that groove out.  :rolleyes:

and again, for general day to day driving a car as heavily modded as hurdys is not going to be as pleasant as a standard mk5 gti. the suspension isn't going to be as compliant on the uk's potholed cart tracks for a start ,and i don't care what you say. Although his car might be able to take roundabouts  quicker than a standard car is irrelevant to day to day driving as i'm sure he's not a moron who would be going anywhere near the speeds needed to prove it on a public road.
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: T_J_G on 09 May 2010, 13:24
DH I'm not in good enough financial position to gave a track car, trust me I'd love it
but the sums don't add up at the moment. I have improved the car from when I bought it.

I don't want a daily racer if I was going to track properly then I can assure you it would be done properly!
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: cняis on 09 May 2010, 16:49
meh, its very much horse for courses.

after driving the mk2vr6 to 80 miles yesterday, with 2 passengers, thats 3 people with earache from the (rather-nice-but-a-bit-too-noisey-for-long-journeys) exhaust.

should i have used the standard mk3 for that kind of journey? i know which was going to be more fun  :cool:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: clipperjay on 09 May 2010, 16:54
Sell it! buy something even worse. Then you suddenly stop complaining about the old car you used to own! Works every time, or leave VW for awhile and ride a motorbike until it nearly kills you then come back reborn! :evil:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: dTEA on 09 May 2010, 21:22
DH I am with you on the standard car bs. A modded car is always more fun to drive...nearest standard car that was fun was my CTR. And I know that could have been so muchmore.

The man up bit don't wash though as a crash would mean no work...it's essential not mention the wallet damage.

Would I have Hurdys car as a daily? Feckin hell yeah! Would he swap? Would he funk.

Chris, good choice on the car to take for the run...ESP if an a/b road run :Afro:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: cняis on 09 May 2010, 22:10
DH I am with you on the standard car bs. A modded car is always more fun to drive...nearest standard car that was fun was my CTR. And I know that could have been so muchmore.

The man up bit don't wash though as a crash would mean no work...it's essential not mention the wallet damage.

Would I have Hurdys car as a daily? Feckin hell yeah! Would he swap? Would he funk.

Chris, good choice on the car to take for the run...ESP if an a/b road run :Afro:

the A37 to bristol is quite nice driven at a pace!  :cool:

stuck in bristol city centre traffic with a heavy (cable operated) clutch was a nightmare, but we did find a nice tunnel to drive through with the windows down  :grin:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: dTEA on 09 May 2010, 23:29
Niiiiice
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: mattneck(Beavis) on 10 May 2010, 08:40
DH I am with you on the standard car bs. A modded car is always more fun to drive...nearest standard car that was fun was my CTR. And I know that could have been so muchmore.

The man up bit don't wash though as a crash would mean no work...it's essential not mention the wallet damage.

Would I have Hurdys car as a daily? Feckin hell yeah! Would he swap? Would he funk.

Chris, good choice on the car to take for the run...ESP if an a/b road run :Afro:

the A37 to bristol is quite nice driven at a pace!  :cool:

stuck in bristol city centre traffic with a heavy (cable operated) clutch was a nightmare, but we did find a nice tunnel to drive through with the windows down  :grin:

Temple Meads? :grin:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: DubFan on 10 May 2010, 12:00
Never mind whether a modded Mk5 is better than a standard Mk5 day to day..

1) Do you enjoy driving your car ?

2) Do you have any problems with your car that are going to cost you a lot?
    a) A problem that needs fixing right now?
    b) A big problem that you can't seem to fix?
    c) An issue that you would like to fix but isn't essential to the running of the car?

3) Do you need a car for everyday duties? (Commuting, work, driving kids around, etc)

4) Do you need a different type of car?
     a) smaller for lower running costs (insurance/tax/finance)?
     b) bigger for lugging stuff/people around ?
     c) more efficient car for cheaper long journeys ?
     d) safer car for the kids? (ie if you had a Mk2 and wanted ABS/Airbags/etc)


These are the sort of questions I had to consider when looking at changing cars 5 years ago. I had a lovely Mk2 16v GTI, loved driving it, but my finances were in the crapper having just moved and living costs gone up and it needed a little work which I couldn't afford. So I sold it to make my finances slightly better and reduced my insurance by only driving a little Polo as a run around.
A year or so ago I was driving a Mk3 CL, nothing special and nothing major wrong with it, but being a more basic model it didn't have much in the way of safety features and as we had a new baby wanted a car that was going to be safer, plus we'd realised that we needed a bit more space for buggies and things. So we found the money to upgrade to an Audi A4 Avant - more space, more safety features but still within our modest budget.

I enjoy driving the Audi, it may be bigger, but it's still an enjoyable drive. I will be trying to keep this for a while and even if it costs a bit in maintenance, it'll be worth doing.

So, T_L_G, what's "wrong" with your car ? If there's nothing actually wrong with your car and it's just a case of not being able to afford the mods you would-like-to-do, can't you just enjoy your car?
Or are you bored with it? Does driving it not bring any pleasure?

If you really can't afford work that "needs" to be done or the car doesn't interest you anymore, sure sell it, get something else. But you never know, that car could end up costing you lots. Isn't better the devil you know?
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: Jimp on 10 May 2010, 13:52
Track days can be pricey too. If the money is not there to mod the car it's probably not there to track it either.
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: kells on 10 May 2010, 14:13
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3608/bastaerdised.jpg) (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/bastaerdised.jpg/)

this is when its time to call it a day..


more worriying it looks like it has one of the forum sponsers logos in the window?   :grin:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: VW BUSH on 10 May 2010, 14:24
Holy sh!t that car is retarded  :shocked:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: Wayne on 10 May 2010, 15:37
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3608/bastaerdised.jpg) (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/bastaerdised.jpg/)

this is when its time to call it a day..


more worriying it looks like it has one of the forum sponsers logos in the window?   :grin:

Someone was busy in Halfords that day.  :laugh:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: kells on 10 May 2010, 15:41
check out the R Tech sticker tho! not a good advert at all that one is it  :laugh:WTF
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 10 May 2010, 15:44
Does nobody else see the irony here?!!

Look at the website the pic was taken from...www.CarStylingTips.com..

Keep your tips!
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: kells on 10 May 2010, 15:55
 :grin:

was too blinded by those tail pipe tips
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: Adam on 10 May 2010, 16:27
check out the R Tech sticker tho! not a good advert at all that one is it  :laugh:WTF

Im pretty sure that says 'R-Tec' not 'R-Tech'

Correct me if I'm wrong
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: AlanD on 10 May 2010, 16:32
check out the R Tech sticker tho! not a good advert at all that one is it  :laugh:WTF

Im pretty sure that says 'R-Tec' not 'R-Tech'

Correct me if I'm wrong

I thought Kells was being sarcastic but it appears maybe not.

The "R-Tec" (http://www.rtecshop.com/index.php) sticker on the back of the car is NOT the same "R-TecH" that we all know and love.

Funny enough I actually bought my wheels from said "R-Tec" lol  :embarassed: which are based in St.Albans.
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: jeynesey on 10 May 2010, 16:36
Tim, it sounds like your just bored of the car at the moment?
 
As per a previous post, you need to consider why you are thinking of selling. For me, my mk4 was going to start to cost me money more and more all the time, so I decided to buy nearly new, in the hope that it would cost less fixing the damn thing!! lol
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: kells on 10 May 2010, 18:00
check out the R Tech sticker tho! not a good advert at all that one is it  :laugh:WTF

Im pretty sure that says 'R-Tec' not 'R-Tech'

Correct me if I'm wrong

oh right, is that not the same company then,  it just looked like the same logo (from what i remember, could be wrong) and name to me, i dont really have any dealings with r-tech like you do so thats prob why it confused me..

you gotta admit, it looks very similar, their cant be that many people in the car scene with the R-tech name... again which led me to believe it was infact the same  :undecided:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: kells on 10 May 2010, 18:03
check out the R Tech sticker tho! not a good advert at all that one is it  :laugh:WTF

Im pretty sure that says 'R-Tec' not 'R-Tech'

Correct me if I'm wrong

I thought Kells was being sarcastic but it appears maybe not.

The "R-Tec" (http://www.rtecshop.com/index.php) sticker on the back of the car is NOT the same "R-TecH" that we all know and love.

Funny enough I actually bought my wheels from said "R-Tec" lol  :embarassed: which are based in St.Albans.


ahhh i remember the place now, it is owned by the guys that used to own was it Extreme or something ??  and he was also the guy behind Ripspeed...

i remember this from my Fastcar days now i look at the picture of their showroom on their website :smiley:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: T_J_G on 10 May 2010, 20:16
Tim, it sounds like your just bored of the car at the moment?
 

I think you're right. Maybe too much money being spent and no major changes. As DH said it's all on tat really. has my car significantly improved since I put the W8 light in :grin:

not got enough money to change cars so I guess I'll keep plodding on...
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 10 May 2010, 22:35
Just get out and drive it.  It's what it's for, FFS..... unless you're Kells of course.....
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: kells on 11 May 2010, 11:06
yeah i walk everywhere me, or go on my bike, much more healthy and great fun at daft '0' Clock in the morning on the way back from the club......... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: DubFan on 11 May 2010, 13:44
check out the R Tech sticker tho! not a good advert at all that one is it  :laugh:WTF

Im pretty sure that says 'R-Tec' not 'R-Tech'

Correct me if I'm wrong

oh right, is that not the same company then,  it just looked like the same logo (from what i remember, could be wrong) and name to me, i dont really have any dealings with r-tech like you do so thats prob why it confused me..


Not at all the same:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h202/anotherdubfan/pics/r-tech.jpg)
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: AlanD on 11 May 2010, 13:46
When I spoke to Ben from R-Tech at the Xmas get together he mentioned they get several phone calls looking for the other "R-Tec" we are talking about :D
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: antogoof on 11 May 2010, 14:25
i get like this a lot, just go and do something else for a bit! thats all i do when i get bored with the car. its not that i dont love it its just sometimes i wonder why i spend the money and time i do on it.

you have to have something to detatch yourself from the day to day things, if you just got up went to work and did the same things all day every day without letting yourself go every now and then and taking your beast for a thrash round the b roads, i think you would just turn into a zombie and probably top yourself.

if your car runs well at the mo stop spending money on it, cause you will end up hating it cause you are always skint, just leave it alone for a bit, you will soon have a hankering for it again. 

i felt like this about 7 months ago when i took mine off the road, it was off for 2 months and by the end of the 2 months i could not wait to drive it!

its simple really, you could be a pisshead or a gambling lunatic  or serial killer to pass the time, so what else you gonna do to feel free?

stick with it mate, we alll have to have something to make us smile once in a while.
Title: Re: When is it time to call it a day?
Post by: kittie on 13 May 2010, 14:53
Depends what you've got. If it's something a little special/rare/irreplaceable then it's never time to call it a day. Once it's gone it's gone for good and you'll regret it.

Personally I have found that I can now enjoy the car without a constant nagging feeling of 'it's not perfect'. It'll come on with time and patience  :smiley: