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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 TDI => Topic started by: Phil.O on 04 May 2010, 10:09

Title: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 04 May 2010, 10:09
as the title really, finally don't have to justify a nice exhaust :undecided: and so wanna get something nice.

has anyone got an exhuast on a 130 - just wondering what kinda size gives a nice sound and what examples there are and what they look like........

is it worth getting a full system or just backbox......

any help would be great.
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 04 May 2010, 11:07
I've got a 2.5 inch system from the turbo back

Milltek downpipe together with a Pro-Speed cat back system with an Anni tip

Quiet when cruising - nice deep rumble when you hit the go go pedal  :smiley:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 04 May 2010, 12:47
hmmmmmm - sounds good  :smiley:

can't decide on the tip either - i like the anni tip but was thinking of going for something a little different......

how much did you set up cost?
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 04 May 2010, 13:23
£165 for the Milltek downpipe but THS do one too which is slightly cheaper

Cat back was £300 from Pro-Speed in Cardiff near me.  There's only one of them mind so I'd shop around your area for custom exhaust places and get some prices

Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 04 May 2010, 14:05
hmmmmm....might have to give a few people a call,

last time i looked into it the set up it was £495 for a full custom system the way i wanted it  :undecided:

does the downpipe make a big difference?
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 04 May 2010, 14:09
downpipe makes the biggest difference on a diesel

You'll be more mid range torque and the power will hold for longer

Read through my build thread and you'll see some graphs from when I first had the downpipe fitted - smoothed the torque curve right out and I gained an average an extra 10bhp across the power band  :smiley:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 04 May 2010, 14:41
the first line just put a f*cking great grin across my face!!!  :grin:

sounds nice!

i'll sit and have a read when i get home as don't recon my boss will be too happy me reading it at work.......

sounds awesome!! and then after i get the clutch and flywheel will be on to a remap  :evil:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 04 May 2010, 14:46
lol - glad to help :afro:

If you are only getting the downpipe go for the THS Performance one as that comes with a range of adaptor sleeves to fit your current system.  With the Milltek you'll need and adaptor from Jetex so it will work out more expensive
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: EuanGtTdi on 04 May 2010, 15:01
this is mine mine turbo back exhuast, just started it so not warmed sounds better once warmed up, but gives you wee idea

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/civic-boi-2008/th_VID00000-20100504-1442.jpg) (http://s301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/civic-boi-2008/?action=view&current=VID00000-20100504-1442.flv)
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 04 May 2010, 16:16
thanks for the vid, sounds nice any chance of a clip driving and warm?

sorry to be picky but wanna work out what to get, had a 5" exhaust on my old car but that was a bit too much, grown up a bit since then and want something that's gonna sound and look nice but not over the top......

thanks for all the help, think this may all get done this coming pay day  :evil:

think i'll probably get the down pipe and get the exhaust done at the same time but not sure where i'll go for the exhaust or what kind to get......
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 06 May 2010, 12:54
lol - glad to help :afro:

If you are only getting the downpipe go for the THS Performance one as that comes with a range of adaptor sleeves to fit your current system.  With the Milltek you'll need and adaptor from Jetex so it will work out more expensive

anyone know if there there are any discount codes or anything for THS around?
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 06 May 2010, 12:56
lol - glad to help :afro:

If you are only getting the downpipe go for the THS Performance one as that comes with a range of adaptor sleeves to fit your current system.  With the Milltek you'll need and adaptor from Jetex so it will work out more expensive

anyone know if there there are any discount codes or anything for THS around?

Only for their pancake pipe for the 1.8T.  Give them a ring and mention your a member of various forums / clubs etc and see what they can offer  :smiley:

Don't ask, don't get  :wink:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 07 May 2010, 12:58
downpipe makes the biggest difference on a diesel

You'll be more mid range torque and the power will hold for longer

Read through my build thread and you'll see some graphs from when I first had the downpipe fitted - smoothed the torque curve right out and I gained an average an extra 10bhp across the power band  :smiley:

will the downpipe make any difference if i leave the rest of the exhaust standard?

thinking about a few bits but not sure about funds and things for the moment but the extra power is too good to leave alone......
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 07 May 2010, 13:05
downpipe makes the biggest difference on a diesel

You'll be more mid range torque and the power will hold for longer

Read through my build thread and you'll see some graphs from when I first had the downpipe fitted - smoothed the torque curve right out and I gained an average an extra 10bhp across the power band  :smiley:

will the downpipe make any difference if i leave the rest of the exhaust standard?

thinking about a few bits but not sure about funds and things for the moment but the extra power is too good to leave alone......

I ran mine for a couple of months on the standard exhaust system and the difference was noticeable  :smiley:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 07 May 2010, 14:25
that sounds like a plan then  :smiley:

did you change it over yourself?
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 07 May 2010, 14:32
that sounds like a plan then  :smiley:

did you change it over yourself?

nope bought and had fitted it by Nick @ R-Tech
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: asif on 07 May 2010, 14:40
mmmm sounds like a plan for me also, THS it is then when the time comes.

Rhyso I always thought for some reason that you had a full Miltek system from front to back all the way?
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 07 May 2010, 14:45
mmmm sounds like a plan for me also, THS it is then when the time comes.

Rhyso I always thought for some reason that you had a full Miltek system from front to back all the way?

Nope - whilst I'm not disputing Milltek's quality I do dispute their pricing lol

I got an equivalent system made with the same quality steel for around £30-£40 cheaper AND I didn't have to travel miles to get it fitted.  It also comes with a lifetime guarantee which is transferable for an admin fee to whoever has the car next  :smiley:  (i'm unaware if Milltek offer this)
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: asif on 07 May 2010, 15:17
Think i'm gonna start with the downpipe first then see how I get on.

Does the downpipe change the sound at all? Sorry if that is a really dumb question it's just I don;t know the answer to it :grin:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 07 May 2010, 15:19
Think i'm gonna start with the downpipe first then see how I get on.

Does the downpipe change the sound at all? Sorry if that is a really dumb question it's just I don;t know the answer to it :grin:

Yes it does - you'll get like a whistling owl sound as you let of the accelerator.  Sounds annoying but I think it sounds pretty cool  :smiley:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: asif on 07 May 2010, 15:24
Sounds good to me :afro:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: asif on 07 May 2010, 15:39
Just thought is it like a very toned down version of the scoody burble from the zorst? If you get what I mean.
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Adam on 07 May 2010, 17:25
Think i'm gonna start with the downpipe first then see how I get on.

Does the downpipe change the sound at all? Sorry if that is a really dumb question it's just I don;t know the answer to it :grin:

Yes it does - you'll get like a whistling owl sound as you let of the accelerator.  Sounds annoying but I think it sounds pretty cool  :smiley:

Mine doesn't do that and we are running the exact same set up(ish)
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 07 May 2010, 17:39
Think i'm gonna start with the downpipe first then see how I get on.

Does the downpipe change the sound at all? Sorry if that is a really dumb question it's just I don;t know the answer to it :grin:

Yes it does - you'll get like a whistling owl sound as you let of the accelerator.  Sounds annoying but I think it sounds pretty cool  :smiley:

Mine doesn't do that and we are running the exact same set up(ish)

Weird - mine isn't as noisy as Steve's mind! And since having the turbo cleaned its less pronounced
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Steve_PD on 07 May 2010, 18:19
Think i'm gonna start with the downpipe first then see how I get on.

Does the downpipe change the sound at all? Sorry if that is a really dumb question it's just I don;t know the answer to it :grin:

Yes it does - you'll get like a whistling owl sound as you let of the accelerator.  Sounds annoying but I think it sounds pretty cool  :smiley:

Mine doesn't do that and we are running the exact same set up(ish)

I got a full milltek and get a loud whistle :smiley:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 08 May 2010, 09:50
hmmm.....i really can't decide how loud to go  :undecided:

with a full system how much can you hear the turbo spool up? i'm guessing that the owl sound you're talking about?
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: asif on 08 May 2010, 10:44
Steve so your system is the loud option?
Miltek front to back and no other company parts used?
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 08 May 2010, 10:50
Steve so your system is the loud option?
Miltek front to back and no other company parts used?

Yeah he's got fullt turbo back non-res version which you can't hear until you floor it

Mines nosier but again only when you're booting it - I like it lol  :smiley:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 08 May 2010, 11:11
so how do you get it so that it's only noisey when you boot it?
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 08 May 2010, 11:12
so how do you get it so that it's only noisey when you boot it?

Mine's called a mid-sport

Or just get a Milltek system

If you go custom they'll have a range of silences, back boxes etc which will give you the sound you're after
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 08 May 2010, 11:33
cool - i'm gonna go for a full custom system and from what you've explained will go for the mid-sport i recon.

gonna go to MIJ Exhausts i think they're called, just outside Birmingham but gotta save for a month first so i don't blow all my savings.......

really not sure what i'm gonna go for exactly but will have a look and see what i like.

thinking about dual exit with the tips sat in the bumper but not sure on tip - what you think as i've not seen any with that?

they all seem to sit under the bumper which i think looks sh*t!!
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 08 May 2010, 11:36
They'll probably call it something different so just explain to them what you want  :smiley:

Anni style FTW  :cool:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/DSC00285.jpg)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/DSC00286.jpg)
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 08 May 2010, 11:52
i think they said something like mid-sport so will go down that route as love the sound when you boot it but gets annoying when it's a constant drone......

i do like the anni style but then i know a few cars round me have got something similar and i've always liked the idea of an exhaust each side at the back......maybe dual anni style....?

you ever seen it? gonna have a look when i go see and see how it looks i think.
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 08 May 2010, 14:11
Dual Anni Style?  :huh:

You sure you're not on about the 4mo exhaust? Or are you thinking R32 style  :undecided:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 08 May 2010, 14:19
more like R32 style....
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Steve_PD on 08 May 2010, 15:59
only go for a R32 style if you got a R32 rear bumper otherwise it'll look crap :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 08 May 2010, 16:01
not gonna go for an R32 set up but dual exit like the R32, so one each side.

make sense?
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 08 May 2010, 16:14
not gonna go for an R32 set up but dual exit like the R32, so one each side.

make sense?

as above that tends to look sh!t
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 08 May 2010, 16:35
ah right, really........

hmmmmmmm  :undecided:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Adam on 08 May 2010, 18:18
ah right, really........

hmmmmmmm  :undecided:

Without the R32 rear yea looks sh!t
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: asif on 08 May 2010, 18:41
As the 2 zorts would sit too low and just wouldn't look like it's meant to be.
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Adam on 08 May 2010, 19:03
Discrete all the way.

But I have a plan for my exhaust system  :wink:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 09 May 2010, 10:01
i was going to have it sitting in the bumper not below it....

so have the bumper there cut so that it sits nicely.
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Rhyso on 09 May 2010, 12:44
I know what you mean and I've seen it done but IMO it doesn't look great  :undecided:

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/greg_austin21/general%20car%20stuff/My%20build%20pictures/IMG_4645.jpg)
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Phil.O on 09 May 2010, 12:52
yea that's the kinda thing i was thinking of having but actually seeing it i'm really not sure now...... :undecided:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: asif on 09 May 2010, 22:08
Phil in my personal opinion avoid that mate it don't look great in i'm honest.

Also apologies to anyone who has that set up.

When I get round to it i'm going for the 4mo look I love the two pipes on one side and looks oem and like it's meant to be again IMO
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Adam on 10 May 2010, 15:32
Twin A6 TDi discrete  :wink:
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: asif on 10 May 2010, 15:38
Twin A6 TDi discrete  :wink:
What is the point of having a Twin A6 discrete when you can't see it?
If you go discrete it don;t matter what the zorst looks like.
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: Adam on 10 May 2010, 15:49
Twin A6 TDi discrete  :wink:
What is the point of having a Twin A6 discrete when you can't see it?
If you go discrete it don;t matter what the zorst looks like.

I know what you mean but smoke coming from both sides of the car......Its prob me just being anal but thats me.
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: asif on 10 May 2010, 15:55
Ort am I missing something here?
Title: Re: Exhaust System for TDi
Post by: asif on 10 May 2010, 15:56
:grin: @ Adam