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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: iamwills on 22 April 2010, 18:16

Title: rwd conversion
Post by: iamwills on 22 April 2010, 18:16
can this be done on my mk 3 . or am i dreaming, or could some one give me a price .,.,., :wink:
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Adam on 22 April 2010, 19:57
can this be done on my mk 3 . or am i dreaming, or could some one give me a price .,.,., :wink:

You can get a Syncro MK3 but thats only 4wd......It's a bad idea unless your running stupidly high BHP and you want to spend a lot of money.
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: bmw156 on 22 April 2010, 20:06
lol. thats a crazy idea,

you would probably have to chop the whole floor out, custom mount a RWD subframe of something. and weld it all back it.

as said, is pointless unless your running huge power and the golf weighs loads anyway.

p.s 10k plus IMO
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Wayne on 22 April 2010, 21:34
Daft idea
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: VR6-Joe on 22 April 2010, 22:32
My Golf is a Supercharged 3.2 V6 RWD running approx 380bhp

It's pretty awesome when you kick the arse end out !

and then I woke up
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: zdebx on 22 April 2010, 22:37
Definitely a lot of money and not worth it, unless you're really in love with your car and not planning to sell it for long time...

http://www.streetfire.net/video/bcf-mid-engine-rwd-vr6-turbogolf-3-wwwbenscu_106996.htm
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 22 April 2010, 22:43
Could buy a Syncro....
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Ess_Three on 22 April 2010, 22:44
My Golf is a Supercharged 3.2 V6 RWD running approx 380bhp

It's pretty awesome when you kick the arse end out !

and then I woke up

You don't need RWD to kick the arse out under power...Haldex equipped cars will do it with enough torque - torque more so than power.
My S3 would do it easily...
But it's still not RWD....so you couldn't keep it there vert easily.

A Synchro Golf would do it too - but they are a bit fragile.
You are likely to break the transfer box or rear diff housing.

It's possible to make a Haldex Golf RWD by removing the front driveshafts. VW did it in a Mk5 for one of the Fast And furious films. It's in Evo mag this month.

But for a Mk3?
Maybe a Mk3 synchro floorpan, with an uprated synchro or Haldex back end on it, and the front driveshafts removed, would do it...I suspect you'd need to mess with the diffs though. But it could be done.


Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 22 April 2010, 22:47
That thing is bloody ridiculous, i want one. :laugh:
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: sportsman on 18 May 2011, 13:24
My Golf is a Supercharged 3.2 V6 RWD running approx 380bhp

It's pretty awesome when you kick the arse end out !

and then I woke up

Hey Joe, I'd like to ask you some questions bout how you did your mod for the rwd vr6, send me your email or something
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 18 May 2011, 13:27
My Golf is a Supercharged 3.2 V6 RWD running approx 380bhp

It's pretty awesome when you kick the arse end out !

and then I woke up

Hey Joe, I'd like to ask you some questions bout how you did your mod for the rwd vr6, send me your email or something

Not to burst your bubble or anything but if you look hard enough you can see in tiny writing

and then i woke up

 :grin: :grin: :grin:

Oh and Holy Thread Revival Batman! :D
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: trog_nfs on 18 May 2011, 13:36
on the plus side, the search function was used...

dum dum dummmmmmmm!
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: sportsman on 18 May 2011, 13:41
My Golf is a Supercharged 3.2 V6 RWD running approx 380bhp

It's pretty awesome when you kick the arse end out !

and then I woke up

Hey Joe, I'd like to ask you some questions bout how you did your mod for the rwd vr6, send me your email or something

Not to burst your bubble or anything but if you look hard enough you can see in tiny writing

and then i woke up

 :grin: :grin: :grin:

Oh and Holy Thread Revival Batman! :D
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Im new to this forum thing, Ive looked and cannot find the address a little help?
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: sportsman on 18 May 2011, 13:45
Hey Wherry< Im new to this forum thing, tiny writing lol dont kno what you on about mate?
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 18 May 2011, 13:53
Heya mate - He was just taking the piss, he never owned one!  :grin:

If you look at what Joe has posted there is really, really tiny writing which says "and then i woke up" just means he was taking the piss.
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: sportsman on 18 May 2011, 13:59
Heya mate - He was just taking the piss, he never owned one!  :grin:

If you look at what Joe has posted there is really, really tiny writing which says "and then i woke up" just means he was taking the piss.

Oh, Lmfao i see,

Well ive been searching this idea for years, I plan to do it one day but do you have any idea how to convert the front wheel to rear wheel on the vr6 without changing the location of the engine, and something more lasting than removing the front wheel shafts and leaving it to the synchro rear differential apparently that system is fragile?
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Len on 18 May 2011, 14:02
Had to increase to 400% to read it! :grin:
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Len on 18 May 2011, 14:03
Be easier to do a rear engine/RWD combo actually!
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Seanl on 18 May 2011, 14:08
That is awsome though. 11 second quarter, that is a friggin beast! :drool:
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: sportsman on 18 May 2011, 14:14
I dont mind the money so much as long as its not as expensive as doing a e46 csl m5 conversion where the engine costs 15K that will be fine.  I can find most of the other mods but I wan to know maybe what maufacturer like bmw or mazda etc could i borrow a prop shaft from.  I dont wana put the engine in the back.  This is gona be my daily run around, i wanna see out the back lol.
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 18 May 2011, 14:16
Had to increase to 400% to read it! :grin:

If you quote it you can read it a lot easier. :afro:
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Len on 18 May 2011, 14:54
Propshaft wont be a problem mate, you can get them made up quite easily!

Main problem will be getting the drive back around 90 degrees!
Might be easier to turn the engine around and find a gearbox that fits!

Basically if you really want to do something, it can be done!
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: sportsman on 18 May 2011, 15:07
Propshaft wont be a problem mate, you can get them made up quite easily!

Main problem will be getting the drive back around 90 degrees!
Might be easier to turn the engine around and find a gearbox that fits!

Basically if you really want to do something, it can be done!

what do you mean getting ther drive back around 90 degrees
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: trog_nfs on 18 May 2011, 15:37
Propshaft wont be a problem mate, you can get them made up quite easily!

Main problem will be getting the drive back around 90 degrees!
Might be easier to turn the engine around and find a gearbox that fits!

Basically if you really want to do something, it can be done!

Like the kit car boys do with zetec engines and Mx75 (i think) gear boxes out of the sierra?
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Wayne on 18 May 2011, 15:57
It is a daft idea and any major changes to the shell will lead to hassle with the dvla in getting the car on the road.
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Jack3559 on 18 May 2011, 15:57
Buy an old BMW if you want cheap RWD.
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Len on 18 May 2011, 16:10
It is a daft idea and any major changes to the shell will lead to hassle with the dvla in getting the car on the road.

Like a TVR V8 engined Golf then! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Len on 18 May 2011, 16:12
Propshaft wont be a problem mate, you can get them made up quite easily!

Main problem will be getting the drive back around 90 degrees!
Might be easier to turn the engine around and find a gearbox that fits!

Basically if you really want to do something, it can be done!

what do you mean getting ther drive back around 90 degrees


Well a Golf engine is transverse, that means its axis is across the car.
If you want to drive the rear wheels via a propshaft the drive which normally goes across the car will need to be turned 90 degress to go to a back axle.
Or you can turn the engine 90 degrees!
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Wayne on 18 May 2011, 16:22
It is a daft idea and any major changes to the shell will lead to hassle with the dvla in getting the car on the road.

Like a TVR V8 engined Golf then! :rolleyes:

That was then, the rules have changed, any changes to a shell means the car will need an iva test, if you don't believe me speak to DH.
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: trog_nfs on 18 May 2011, 16:39
You don't see shell changes any more. The only ones I've seen recently are big companies doing cosworth swaps in fiesta's and focus's to show off their skills.
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: tweed on 18 May 2011, 17:29
Not being funny guys but it doesn't have to cost a lot of money. You will have to do all the work mind.
Buy a superbike engine. A 2010 gsxr 1000cc engine with bit of head work will see 200bhp at the wheel.
Custom build a subframe with arms and buy a chain driven diff. Bit more to it than that but you get the picture.
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Jack3559 on 18 May 2011, 17:36
Not being funny guys but it doesn't have to cost a lot of money. You will have to do all the work mind.
Buy a superbike engine. A 2010 gsxr 1000cc engine with bit of head work will see 200bhp at the wheel.
Custom build a subframe with arms and buy a chain driven diff. Bit more to it than that but you get the picture.

I was planning on doing that to a mk2 polo.
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: tweed on 18 May 2011, 17:42
Just found this. I've always wanted to do it to a old fiat 600
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghynaoVNwZc&feature=related
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: sportsman on 18 May 2011, 18:31
how do you insert images
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: gtiballs61 on 18 May 2011, 20:56
something like this: :drool:

(http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy200/skippybigballs/vw%20golf%20mk3/160_0701_et_01z25252B1996_volkswagen_mk3_golf25252Bpeel_out.jpg)
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: boneybradley on 19 May 2011, 08:54
How hard can it be??
The easy way would be to use mk3 or mk4 "syncro" parts which are fairly readily avalible (mk3 syncro would mean buying from germany or better still buy a complete car........try mobile.de (http://mobile.de) as there's always several on sale)

like said earlier DH posted something about major structual mod's not being allowed anymore....I guess there is someway around this otherwise rallying wouldn't be allowed? (It could be worth checking before deciding any project)
Title: Re: rwd conversion
Post by: Wayne on 19 May 2011, 09:12
I guess there is someway around this otherwise rallying wouldn't be allowed? (It could be worth checking before deciding any project)

They don't change much of the shell, seam welded etc but all the mounting points are in the factory locations.

Cutting the floor out of a mk3 is different ballgame.