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Title: Tips for best performance
Post by: PenguinGTI on 08 April 2010, 01:38
Hi guys...Anybody got any tips for getting down the 1/4 mile quicker?

I don't want to remove any weight (except maybe the spare wheel). I've heard mention about tyre pressures but I won't pretend to know what I'm doing.

Anybody able to shed any light?

PS - I thought about go faster stripes but they don't work  :cry:
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 April 2010, 07:44
Remove weight.  :rolleyes:

It's the single biggest thing that will impact your times.
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: PenguinGTI on 08 April 2010, 13:06
I've thought long and hard about removing weight but this isn't practical for a family car. Any other tips?
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 April 2010, 13:14
You're really not capable of removing the rear seats and spare wheel?

Let's face it, if you're taking your DSG car down the strip it's mostly going to be about how much of a git you want to be with the paddles and the rev-limiter and how fast your reaction time is.
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 08 April 2010, 13:28
its front pressures down and rear pressures up for drag racing i believe, don't know how much though. or put 2 space savers on the rear  :laugh:
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: dweb1989 on 08 April 2010, 13:43
or put 2 space savers on the rear  :laugh:

What a genius idea!
Beats my idea of putting on the smallest wheels and tyres that fit around your brakes to increase acceleration!
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: PenguinGTI on 08 April 2010, 15:24
Thanks,
You're really not capable of removing the rear seats and spare wheel?

Let's face it, if you're taking your DSG car down the strip it's mostly going to be about how much of a git you want to be with the paddles and the rev-limiter and how fast your reaction time is.

In response to that no I'm not cause I need the back seats. The only option would be to take them out at the track itself which isn't practical. As for taking a DSG or manual is it quicker leaving the car to run till the limiter (obviously not bouncing off it) or is it better to change up earlier. I know for diesels the boost runs out fairly quick. I have heard the old saying "feel the car" and I have been. Boost seems to tail off around 6500-6800.


Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: Rhyso on 08 April 2010, 16:05
Ride the torque - most useful power and torque is done well before the redline so you want to be changing up so it drops you right into the meat of the power

With regards to removing the back seats if its like the MK4 it really is a 2 minute job.  Leave the seats at the side with a mate whilst you tear down the strip  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 April 2010, 16:25
I think it's a 2009 Tornado Red GTI DSG 3r: Monza 17's (black), with a Forge SV and a little extra boost (courtesy of torque.it) which has thus far done a 1/4 mile 13.9 @ 103.2 mph
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: A7 UFO on 08 April 2010, 16:28
I know for diesels the boost runs out fairly quick.
Inappropriate use of the word fairly.
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 April 2010, 16:39
Inappropriate use of the word fairly.

 :grin:

Tuned diesels - kinda like a guy with a huge c0ck and premature ejaculati0n.
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: PenguinGTI on 08 April 2010, 19:18
I'm not going to start a diesel/petrol argument. If you want that head to the mk 6 forum (although it has been cleaned up a bit recently).

Does anyone know the procedure for taking out the mk6 rear seats. I think I'll have a look tomorrow. I'm taking it the mk4 how to is in the mk4 threads?

Thanks for the help...
I think it's a 2009 Tornado Red GTI DSG 3r: Monza 17's (black), with a Forge SV and a little extra boost (courtesy of torque.it) which has thus far done a 1/4 mile 13.9 @ 103.2 mph

You have a scary insight into my car...  :grin:
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: PenguinGTI on 29 April 2010, 19:24
took the back seats out. figured it out. Once I had that funny shaped screw thingy it was a doddle.


With regards to removing the back seats if its like the MK4 it really is a 2 minute job.  Leave the seats at the side with a mate whilst you tear down the strip  :smiley:

My first time... taking the seats out was about 30-40 mins. Then puttin them back in was about an hour. but now (having done it a couple of times) it really is a 2 minute job. I pop them out everytime I go up now.

Only thing is... i'm not really going any faster  :cry:

Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: Diamond Hell on 29 April 2010, 19:42
Get some tuition and as you're not supposed to be timing yourself get out there and focus on enjoying yourself.
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 30 April 2010, 09:49
1/4 mile tuition?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: Diamond Hell on 30 April 2010, 12:07
1/4 mile is for pussies.
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: Hurdy on 01 May 2010, 20:33
1/4 mile is for pussies.

I like track and 1/4 mile sprints....does that make me a hard, tight pussie? :laugh:
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: PenguinGTI on 02 May 2010, 21:18
The 1/4 mile is for real drivers right   :evil:...

For me launching a car using launch control and letting the computer change gear while I travel in a straight line is a demonstration of pure skill and talent  :grin:

Nah I like it for the banter (and it's a good way to use my car without risking any points)
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: gibby on 03 May 2010, 00:24
and how fast your reaction time is.

If you mean reaction times at the start of the run, then that doesn't actually form part of the finish time. It doesn't at Santa Pod for amatuer runs anyway. :wink:
Title: Re: Tips for best performance
Post by: spankier on 04 May 2010, 17:31
if you really cant be arsed with weight removal etc just for the strip then all thats left is tyre pressures (fronts down a bit rears up a bit as said previously) trial and error required though- different days and different surfaces and all that, but its as simple as a hard rear tyre will squat less, wasting less of your hartd-earned effort, and the softer fronts will sort of creep a little before letting go and wheelspinning, plus generating some all important heat more quickly. for goodness sakes dont go crazy with the diffences though as you need to brake effectivly at the end and presumeably youll be using normal roaad tyres so DEFINITELY stay within the pressures stated on the sidewall and to be honest if you let more than 5psi out of the fronts or put more than 5 in the back without it helping then pressures werent the problem to start with :wink: only other thing you can do is get them properly hot, so go bananas with your burnout, a bit of a scuff up does nothing at all andyoull just spin off the line.

other than that try to guage your fuel stop so youve got barely enough to do your runs and get to the station again, no point dragging 40kilos of juice up the strip, take your tools/pushchair/laptop/whatever assorted crap lives in your car out before you go, have a good poo etc, it all helps!

finally practice! my times vary over the course of a morning by over a second due to operator error, bad starts, missed gears etc so just keep going and if a particular tip/technique doesnt work a few times then try something else. but most of all, just enjoy it  :smiley:

as for skill? yes, theres way more skill in 'proper' track driving, but its more expensive and you dont get a bit of paper saying one car is faster than another, plus on a tight track decent launches could be crucial- drag races arent the only ones won and lost on the start line.....

(post modified due to poor spelling  :embarassed: )