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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: ullevi on 22 March 2010, 07:57
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I have had my Mk5 1.4 54 plate Golf for the best part of 3 years and it has only done 45,00 miles and the engine has gone!!!
I was driving down to St Andrews on saturday and got about 30 miles down the road when the oil pressure light came on and I pulled over straight away and got to a garage luckily, once the lad had a look at it he said it was the rod ends?? that had gone and it would need a new engine!!! There was a fair bit of crutching coming from the engine.
Would VW take any responsibility for a cars engine going after only 45,000 miles or am I on my own??
Any advice would be welcome lads.
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Talk to your local dealer and explain what's happened and push them for a goodwill claim
Make sure your service book is stamped up to date and haggle hard :smiley:
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Dont have the full service history, thats the only thing but going to call them and see what they say this morning cheers mate
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Dont have the full service history, thats the only thing but going to call them and see what they say this morning cheers mate
*cough* I would suggest that you find someone with a stamp then *cough* :wink:
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Just of the phone to them, they want a full service history and for me to get it towed to them at my cost and then at my cost they will look at it and if it is then proven to be there fault they might cover some of the cost of the repair!!!
Where would I get one of these stamps cough cough
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Just of the phone to them, they want a full service history and for me to get it towed to them at my cost and then at my cost they will look at it and if it is then proven to be there fault they might cover some of the cost of the repair!!!
Where would I get one of these stamps cough cough
Know anyone with a garage?
You might be better off getting a report from an independent garage as that would be cheaper than paying a VW dealer for it. If it is found to be a fault with the engine you can then argue your case with VW directly
Have you always serviced it on time?
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It is in an independent garage just now and thw lad is looking at just now to see what the problem is, I really cant believe that the engine will have gone at 45,000 miles and needs totally repaired surely this is not common?? They said find out what is wrong and then call them back and they will see what they could do but not holding out much hope for them paying anything out!!!
Volks have said they would want it looked at by them before they would pay out for any repairs but at there costs of towing it to them and then them compiling a report it would work out a fortune!!!
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It is in an independent garage just now and thw lad is looking at just now to see what the problem is, I really cant believe that the engine will have gone at 45,000 miles and needs totally repaired surely this is not common?? They said find out what is wrong and then call them back and they will see what they could do but not holding out much hope for them paying anything out!!!
Volks have said they would want it looked at by them before they would pay out for any repairs but at there costs of towing it to them and then them compiling a report it would work out a fortune!!!
It's not very common at all though I'm not up to speed on any problems with the 1.4. Though saying that my dad had a 1.4 MK4 Golf and that liked to drink oil like it was going out of fashion yet it was within the manufacturer's tolerences! :shocked:
I guess you got to weigh up the costs of fighting for goodwill or buying a 2nd hand / recond engine and have that fitted and getting your car back on the road ASAP
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Yes that the choice mate, will find out this aft what it will cost to sort with the ind lad and then see how to play it.
To have it towed to them and then pay for them to look at it at there rate then for them to wriggle out of paying it would leave me well out of pocket, so might just have to swallow the cost.
Still rankles as it has only done 45,000 miles and I certainly wont be buying another golf thats for sure!!
Cheers for the advice.
Are Volkswagen any good at goodwill gestures?
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Yes that the choice mate, will find out this aft what it will cost to sort with the ind lad and then see how to play it.
To have it towed to them and then pay for them to look at it at there rate then for them to wriggle out of paying it would leave me well out of pocket, so might just have to swallow the cost.
Still rankles as it has only done 45,000 miles and I certainly wont be buying another golf thats for sure!!
Cheers for the advice.
Are Volkswagen any good at goodwill gestures?
It might not be as bad as you think but no point 2nd guessing until you're told for sure. Though make sure you inspect the engine yourself to clarify what parts have given up etc - make sure you're not ripped off :wink:
In all honesty I don't know as I've never had to push for a goodwill claim but the more history you got then the better the chances you will have. Be firm and stand your ground but don't get into a shouting match as I've found it gets you nowhere fast
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To get goodwill to replace a high level brake light on my spoiler I put I got the dealers to back me up saying it was a stupid design, a full service histrory, pointed out that I bought all my consumables (ie oil / washer fluid etc) from the stealers, that half my family drove VAGs and how disapointed I was with the brand etc etc. I got goodwill for half the cost ....
Without a full histroy, and if you didn't buy it from a stealers I think you are on your own to be honest :undecided:
Even if you do get a 'stamp' in the book, servicing is recorded on the dealer network system. So they will know you aren't on the level...
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To get goodwill to replace a high level brake light on my spoiler I put I got the dealers to back me up saying it was a stupid design, a full service histrory, pointed out that I bought all my consumables (ie oil / washer fluid etc) from the stealers, that half my family drove VAGs and how disapointed I was with the brand etc etc. I got goodwill for half the cost ....
Without a full histroy, and if you didn't buy it from a stealers I think you are on your own to be honest :undecided:
Even if you do get a 'stamp' in the book, servicing is recorded on the dealer network system. So they will know you aren't on the level...
Playing devil's advocate but what if you had it serviced at a local garage using genuine parts? That won't be recorded on the dealer's system. Although i guess I'll answer the quesiton anyway in that you should therefore have a receipt for the work..... Catch 22 really :undecided:
The only goodwill I've had was on the window clips for my Mk4 but that was a common problem to the car. Although i was never asked for full service history or where I purchased it from just the age and mileage :undecided:
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It needs a new engine the independent lad has just confirmed, he has been onto Overton and they have dont have one so it is hunt an engine now...
I did buy it from the dealers about 3 years ago but dont have a full service history, they said once I have found out what is wrong to give them a call but they would need to do there own report and it would have to be towed 50 miles to them as well so would cost a good few quid for them to investigate!!!!! even then once they have done the report they may not pay much of the cost!!!
It really annoys me that after 45,000 miles they are taking no
responsibilty for anything!!!!!
How much will I be looking at for a re conditioned engine and fitting?
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What exactly has gone wrong with the engine?
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Reconditioned engine will be hard to find I would have thought.
Your 2 main options are a new unit from VW (probably circa £1500) or one from a car in a breakers yard (ball park £350). Then labour at your garage (£40 an hour at a guess).
Either way you're looking at an extensive bill. Not sure on the value of 1.4 MKV's as to whether it's worth it or not.
nick
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A quick look at Autotrader suggest that a early MKV 1.4 with 45K on is worth approx £5K.
If it were me I'd pick up an engine from a breakers and do the swap myself. Paying for someone else to do it is going to bring the cost up to close what the car is worth, not to ention a replacement engine will devalue the car.
Tough call.
Nick
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Accordin to Volks Apart website - http://www.volkswagenspares.com/page.php?page=VWEngines they will fit a rebuilt 1.4 FSI engine for 1k.
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He is saying £1500 to £2000 for fitting the re conditioned engine if he can find one, he says the big end has gone and it is past repairing!!!
I wouldnt know where to start to replace an engine so I am at his mercy but he seems trust worthy enough.
It is finding the engine thats the problem then getting it fitted, 2 days labour plus the engine would be the best part of £1000 and then parts and VAT, he is going to get back to me in the morning!!!
Anyone know where a good 1.4 mk5 engine is going cheap!!!!
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Accordin to Volks Apart website - http://www.volkswagenspares.com/page.php?page=VWEngines they will fit a rebuilt 1.4 FSI engine for 1k.
That's pretty darn good!
nick
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He is saying £1500 to £2000 for fitting the re conditioned engine if he can find one, he says the big end has gone and it is past repairing!!!
So I guess he's saying the crank has had it. I guess it's cheaper to throw in a 2nd hand engine than get the crank re ground and all new bearings plus the cost of the strip down and rebuild.
It is finding the engine thats the problem then getting it fitted, 2 days labour plus the engine would be the best part of £1000 and then parts and VAT, he is going to get back to me in the morning!!!
Anyone know where a good 1.4 mk5 engine is going cheap!!!!
See above!
nick
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Yeah, only problem with them is they have just had a fire so it will be some time before they will be able to help you. Im guessing your going to need your car back on the road ASAP.
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Just need it sorted really and for as little as possible!!!
Will have to wait and see what they say about getting an engine tommorow and again take it from there, looking like I will replace it and then just get rid of the blooming thing, money down the drain but what can I do really, it needs sorted and hopefully he can pick one up at a reasonable price.
How much would the labour be roughly 2 days £35 an hour £560 plus vat and parts plus an engine £600 so £1500 wouldnt be far off??
SWtill not happy that its only done 45,000 miles and is knackered!!!
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Gutted for you mate. I've not really heard of a complete fail on the mk5s. Certainly 996's are popping all over the place but Porsche like vw are not interested. Good luck. Keep us posted.
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Unlucky mate, sounds like a bit of a sh!t situation to be in.
Even if you got a good will gesture from VW, they's want to fit it surely, and you can bet there rates won't be as cheap as the indy, so would proably work out similar or dearer, but with loads of added hasslehoff.
Can you not claim on your insurance for something like this? (assuming your F/C)
Sam :sad:
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To get goodwill to replace a high level brake light on my spoiler I put I got the dealers to back me up saying it was a stupid design, a full service histrory, pointed out that I bought all my consumables (ie oil / washer fluid etc) from the stealers, that half my family drove VAGs and how disapointed I was with the brand etc etc. I got goodwill for half the cost ....
Without a full histroy, and if you didn't buy it from a stealers I think you are on your own to be honest :undecided:
Even if you do get a 'stamp' in the book, servicing is recorded on the dealer network system. So they will know you aren't on the level...
Playing devil's advocate but what if you had it serviced at a local garage using genuine parts? That won't be recorded on the dealer's system. Although i guess I'll answer the quesiton anyway in that you should therefore have a receipt for the work..... Catch 22 really :undecided:
The only goodwill I've had was on the window clips for my Mk4 but that was a common problem to the car. Although i was never asked for full service history or where I purchased it from just the age and mileage :undecided:
As far as VW are concerned getting it serviced outside the dealer network is giving money to the competition. I was told to ham it up as much as possible with regards brand loyalty etc. I can see their point.
Then again I guess it depends on the severity of the problem. Unless you run it without oil that just shouldn't happen and IMO VW should support you.
Overtons eh? You in the Aberdeen area?
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Yes in the Aberdeen area mate
Havent done anything out of the ordinary with the car just run it chnaged the oil regularly and generally looked after it as good as I could, never put it to the dealers but used Volks Centre in Kingswells before...
Thats the way i look at it as well with regards the problem VW should support me but there you go!!
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GF's sisters Polo suffered a snapped cambelt. It had been servied as per VW requirements using VW parts but at indpendant garage. VW weren't interested - car had covered 60k miles on an 04 plate. SHe put a recon engine in (from a Seat) and part ex'd it.
Best of luck.
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That is uncommon but are you sure the engines gone? It's only one persons opinion. If it goes at 45,000 I'm sure VW would want to know about it.
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An Update
Looks like he cant source an engine for the car and he has tried a load of breakers yards and other places, looks like a new engine froom Volkswagen and the cost of fitting it.
Just looking for a bit of advice really, is it worth just scrapping it or would I be better sticking the engine in and running it for a couple of years??
Would a new engine give me a good life for the car?
The cars worth about £4500 would it depreciate with a new engine in it at trade in? Or just scrap it as he is saying £2300 to fit a new engine!! How much is it worth for scrap?
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not alot for scrap price mate , looking around £130 on a ton so ya best bet if you were to take that route would be to break it and sell bits via here or skankbay (ebay) , personaly me myself id just pay out for the new engine and continue to use for another year or 2
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are there no engines on ebay?
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Sell the parts on ebay and use that money + the £2300 to buy another car. But very odd that your engine has gone at that mileage.