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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: devito on 17 March 2010, 00:20
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does anyone out there have a mk6 gti DSG? If so have you noticed a slight shudder when breaking and coming to a gentle stop. I noticed this last friday when i picked the new car up. At first i thought it may be the brakes bedding in so i kept it over the weekend. By sunday afternoon there was no change. On Monday i took the car back to the dealers. The workshop manager and the an engineer came out in the car and both agreed there was a shudder when breaking to a stop. I told them to keep it till it was put right. Today(tuesday) they phoned me saying they could'nt find anything on diagnostics but said they had a couple of other cars(not golfs) with DSGs that had the same shudder and was characteristic of the DSG.Shurely this can't be so. I test drove a DSG from another garage months ago and did'nt notice anything at the time. Can anyone shine a light on this problem?? Thanks.
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sounds like a fob off to me - how can they compare your GTI to other non GTI cars with DSG boxes
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sounds like a dodgy mechatronics unit - tell them to check that as its a known problem
also when you next come to a stop keep an eye on the rev counter when the shudder happens - if the revs drop suddenly then shoot up to c1200rpm before settling at 8krpm - you have an issue
amazes me how these vw tech's tie their shoe lases in the morning
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sounds like a dodgy mechatronics unit - tell them to check that as its a known problem
also when you next come to a stop keep an eye on the rev counter when the shudder happens - if the revs drop suddenly then shoot up to c1200rpm before settling at 8krpm - you have an issue
amazes me how these vw tech's tie their shoe lases in the morning
You mean 800 rpm if it settles at 8k you really will have a problem :grin:
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Don't hackney cabs shudder too when they come to a stop ?
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Don't hackney cabs shudder too when they come to a stop ?
(http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u347/jnewby99/tumbleweed_004.jpg)
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DSG is quicker Kev!! Got move with the times my son :evil:
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DSG is quicker Kev!! Got move with the times my son :evil:
Will you give it a rest :wink:
Stop winding Kev up! for the record manual is quicker :laugh:
Gizzy
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DSG is quicker Kev!! Got move with the times my son :evil:
Will you give it a rest :wink:
Stop winding Kev up! for the record manual is quicker :laugh:
Gizzy
Oh yea where do you get that from then Gizzy :laugh:?
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DSG is quicker Kev!! Got move with the times my son :evil:
But then their owners slow them down again by adding lots of options and the bigger slower wheels :wink:
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DSG is quicker Kev!! Got move with the times my son :evil:
But then their owners slow them down again by adding lots of options and the bigger slower wheels :wink:
Have you got your F***** car yet Snoopy? I'm getting really P**** off for you mate!! :angry: Hope you are well Steve :cool:
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sounds like a dodgy mechatronics unit - tell them to check that as its a known problem
also when you next come to a stop keep an eye on the rev counter when the shudder happens - if the revs drop suddenly then shoot up to c1200rpm before settling at 8krpm - you have an issue
amazes me how these vw tech's tie their shoe lases in the morning
You mean 800 rpm if it settles at 8k you really will have a problem :grin:
I have a mk6 GTI with DSG and have done 4k miles in it. Never ever noticed this problem.
(I have noticed the problem with Kev's comments tho! :evil:)
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Never noticed anything like that with mine either.
I suppose you're absolutely sure it's not the ABS kicking in?
Rolfe.
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you got your F***** car yet Snoopy? I'm getting really P**** off for you mate!! :angry: Hope you are well Steve :cool:
Nope, Im waiting for Ant & Dec or the candit camera man to say fooled you.
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you got your F***** car yet Snoopy? I'm getting really P**** off for you mate!! :angry: Hope you are well Steve :cool:
Nope, Im waiting for Ant & Dec or the candit camera man to say fooled you.
I would knock the car back through that dealer, buy else where, :cool: there's few coming through now in London anyway? I know where there are 2 for sale!!
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I would knock the car back through that dealer, buy else where, :cool: there's few coming through now in London anyway? I know where there are 2 for sale!!
Its an option im looking at :wink: Its at the dealers, has been there a week maybe 2 now!
Best to keep Devitos thread clear, i have discussed this in the bletchley and august threads.
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Clocked up about 5k on mine and i havn,t noticed any juddering or vibrations off the DSG box :sad:
Very smoooooooooooth (nothing like a hackney cab) :kiss:
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Never noticed anything like that with mine either.
I suppose you're absolutely sure it's not the ABS kicking in?
Rolfe.
could the ABS come into play at such a slow speed? I'm not shure, maybee if there faulty eh? Apparently the tech guys down at milton keeynes agree that because nothing shows faulty on diagnostics, and supposedly the shuddering happens on a Tiguan and a Passat CC that the dealers have tried, then it is charachteristic of the DSG box. So because my dealers cant identify a problem, they cant get authorization to replace anything. I saw a friend this morning who has a gti dsg same as mine. He took me for a drive and although he's had trouble with the mechatronics in his box, he certainly has no shuddering when coming to a halt. I'm going to the dealers tomorrow to try these other 2 cars they have with DSG boxes. Should be fun. Could get heated. Watch this space!!
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Does it happen cold or warm (or both?)
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Does it happen cold or warm (or both?)
both :sad:
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Mine has a slight shudder. Never thought of it as a problem, though. For one, it is very slight. Like when you forget to depress the clutch (in a manual box) as the car is just about to come to a halt. I just put it down to the lack of a torque converter.. :undecided:
Might be different to your experience??
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DSG Shudder also affects these...
(http://photos.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_419/car_photo_209519_7.jpg)
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The last black cab I was in had an Eaton 5-speed gearbox.
That's a manual.
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The last black cab I was in had an Eaton 5-speed gearbox.
That's a manual.
I never thought anyone would actually answer me seriously, I have to laugh, sorry. :grin:
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My granny could only drive manuals.
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My granny could only drive manuals.
Your gran is not a dick then.
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My granny could only drive manuals.
Your gran is not a dick then.
Its only knobheads that drive manual hahaha (Joke) :grin:
Before i get sluaterd on here!!
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Its only knobheads that drive manual hahaha (Joke) :grin:
lol
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My granny could only drive manuals.
She does like to give a stick a good workout.
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My granny could only drive manuals.
She does like to give a stick a good workout.
:laugh: :laugh:
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DSG Shudder also affects these...
(http://photos.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_419/car_photo_209519_7.jpg)
keV you have lost me mate? With the taxi thing?
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DSG Shudder also affects these...
(http://photos.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_419/car_photo_209519_7.jpg)
keV you have lost me mate? With the taxi thing?
Taxi = DSG - It's like being driven by someone else. Completely soulless. An automatic etc.
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I will tell you now if had one for a week , your next golf would be DSG? Brilliant piece of engineering mate!! Enjoy steve
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I will tell you now if had one for a week , your next golf would be DSG? Brilliant piece of engineering mate!! Enjoy steve
Steve, my MKVI is manual and it replaced a DSG Scirocco. DSG is a brilliant piece of engineering, for an auto box and not everyone wants an automatic mate. Simples.
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Went to dealers today to try other DSG boxes. They had one in a Touran, and that was deisel. It had a very slight shudder on stopping but nothing as pronounced as mine. Plus it was deisel so theres always a slight rumble from the engine on idle or on coming down to idle when slowing down to a stop.After having driven the touran with the SERVICE manager and then going back in mine,we agreed that the judder/shudder was worse on mine and probably tolarable on the touran.The SALES manager also drove mine and admitted that he would not accept that on a new car and suggested that they locate a like for like car to compare it with and if still no joy , then rejecting the car with a formal letter. TBC
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Different products suit different people. I can understand why people like the manual transmission, but I also find the DSG is wonderful. Both have their advantages, and it's down to personal preference.
I don't feel any need to insult people who have chosen manual cars. And since I drove one myself for nearly 40 years I don't think I have anything to prove. What sort of insecurity is it that makes (some) manual owners insult DSG owners?
Rolfe.
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Different products suit different people. I can understand why people like the manual transmission, but I also find the DSG is wonderful. Both have their advantages, and it's down to personal preference.
I don't feel any need to insult people who have chosen manual cars. And since I drove one myself for nearly 40 years I don't think I have anything to prove. What sort of insecurity is it that makes (some) manual owners insult DSG owners?
Rolfe.
That's because your about 75 and your insulting days are over not to mention many other things, your not Nosh's granny are you ?
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The OP updated his thread and you all carried on with the never ending useless DSG 'debate' :rolleyes:
Glad to hear VW are agreeing its not right mate. Hopefully they can just sort it as it might be something simple. I dont think TT comes on here any more as he was a pro with DSG. Worth PM'ing him though incase he checks (he should get an email) Tuetonic_Tamer i think it was, spelling may be different.
He knows all there is to know and wrote most of the Wikipedia info afaik!
Would be much better than going through the rejection route and trying to find something similar!
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Well, be fair, I cross-posted....
Rofe.
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Different products suit different people. I can understand why people like the manual transmission, but I also find the DSG is wonderful. Both have their advantages, and it's down to personal preference.
I don't feel any need to insult people who have chosen manual cars. And since I drove one myself for nearly 40 years I don't think I have anything to prove. What sort of insecurity is it that makes (some) manual owners insult DSG owners?
Rolfe.
That's because your about 75 and your insulting days are over not to mention many other things, your not Nosh's granny are you ?
Kev i will insult you if dont leave rolf alone!! :cool:
Ps nosh's granny made laugh!! hahaha
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I will tell you now if had one for a week , your next golf would be DSG? Brilliant piece of engineering mate!! Enjoy steve
Steve, my MKVI is manual and it replaced a DSG Scirocco. DSG is a brilliant piece of engineering, for an auto box and not everyone wants an automatic mate. Simples.
Gossa i was dead against Automatics, wouldnt go near them, My first 3 MK5's gti were manual's , But one had a problem done under warrenty. They gave me a lone car for week DSG, I nearly cried when i had to give it back. 1 week later I orded GTI with DSG, never looked back since. Yes they do have there problems but my car;s always under warrenty, they are so versatile , paddles , semi auto, sport mode, LC. Need i say any more!! enjoy mate :wink:
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Different products suit different people. I can understand why people like the manual transmission, but I also find the DSG is wonderful. Both have their advantages, and it's down to personal preference.
I don't feel any need to insult people who have chosen manual cars. And since I drove one myself for nearly 40 years I don't think I have anything to prove. What sort of insecurity is it that makes (some) manual owners insult DSG owners?
Rolfe.
That's because your about 75 and your insulting days are over not to mention many other things, your not Nosh's granny are you ?
Kev i will insult you if dont leave rolf alone!! :cool:
Ps nosh's granny made laugh!! hahaha
Yes I know im a dick at the best of times, but like Rolfe, I am allowed an opinion too no matter how extreme, some people tend to forget that.
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Different products suit different people. I can understand why people like the manual transmission, but I also find the DSG is wonderful. Both have their advantages, and it's down to personal preference.
I don't feel any need to insult people who have chosen manual cars. And since I drove one myself for nearly 40 years I don't think I have anything to prove. What sort of insecurity is it that makes (some) manual owners insult DSG owners?
Rolfe.
That's because your about 75 and your insulting days are over not to mention many other things, your not Nosh's granny are you ?
Out of order Kev and you know it.
DSG = taxi comments - agreed.
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Different products suit different people. I can understand why people like the manual transmission, but I also find the DSG is wonderful. Both have their advantages, and it's down to personal preference.
I don't feel any need to insult people who have chosen manual cars. And since I drove one myself for nearly 40 years I don't think I have anything to prove. What sort of insecurity is it that makes (some) manual owners insult DSG owners?
Rolfe.
That's because your about 75 and your insulting days are over not to mention many other things, your not Nosh's granny are you ?
Out of order Kev and you know it.
DSG = taxi comments - agreed.
Yep I know it.
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I can understand why a select few manual owners insult DSG owners as your constantly bombarded by DSG owners saying its better, its this, its that, its faster, its blah blah blah. :tongue:
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It's nice, I like it, it suits me, but the manual has advantages as well. I can understand different people preferring one or the other depending on your priorities.
I can't see any reason to have a spat about it.
Rolfe.
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So funny that a stupid thing like how gears change raises so much emotion and conflict. DSG is for pussies that can't drive though....................ahhh, you fell for it!
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Yes I know im a dick at the best of times, but like Rolfe, I am allowed an opinion too no matter how extreme, some people tend to forget that.
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Lets suggest a new forum golfgtimanual.co.uk so KEv can be with his friends
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Yes I know im a dick at the best of times, but like Rolfe, I am allowed an opinion too no matter how extreme, some people tend to forget that.
Lets suggest a new forum golfgtimanual.co.uk so KEv can be with his friends
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That lazy mans speak to text option failed you again i see :tongue: :wink: :grin:
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Look at the effect I have on people :grin: Even changing their sig's now cause of what I say.
I really should be running for prime minister.
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does anyone out there have a mk6 gti DSG? If so have you noticed a slight shudder when breaking and coming to a gentle stop. I noticed this last friday when i picked the new car up. .
There's no shudder on my Mk5 when coming to a gentle stop. None.
Same gearbox.
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cheers for that eggy.
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does anyone out there have a mk6 gti DSG? If so have you noticed a slight shudder when breaking and coming to a gentle stop. I noticed this last friday when i picked the new car up. .
There's no shudder on my Mk5 when coming to a gentle stop. None.
Same gearbox.
My dealer has still got my car as they're investigating the shuddering gearbox. They;ve agreed that there is a problem now after trying a roc with dsg today. I also went to huddersfield on sat to test another gti dsg and found no problem with the box. So now its upto the tech guys at mliton keeynes to decide what to do, perhaps change the mechatronics unit. If that fails to correct the problem then i;ll have to reject the car regretably.
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£10 says mechatronic unit
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The mechatronics box sits inside the gearbox, a quite daft bit of design.
In the new 7 speed dsg the electronics sit outside the box (i think) and must be a lot easier to fix.
I would reject the car unless you have great faith in UK mechanics.
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The mechatronics box sits inside the gearbox, a quite daft bit of design.
In the new 7 speed dsg the electronics sit outside the box (i think) and must be a lot easier to fix.
I would reject the car unless you have great faith in UK mechanics.
I've been told today that a new mech unit has been ordered and the exchange does'nt involve dropping the box. So hopefully they can manage this and hopefully it will solve the problem. It will take 8 to 10 days to arrive so i'll be taking the car back till then.