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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: a16vvw on 02 November 2004, 15:33
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Hi There
My MkII 90 16v is running sweet since the camchain has been changed, fueling sorted and drilled and k&n'd airbox. However, I am thinking of going for a Nitrous Oxide kit just to add some punch when going up against bigger hitters. Does anyone run a NOS 16V or have any experience of one? Should cost around ?600? Would probably get it fitted professionally. Cheers for any advice.
A 16 V VW
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tell us how you get on. not going to do mine but i am interested.
as far as i can tell its the expensive way of getting added performance, plus you can remove it from the car easily.
(expensive cause the gas doesn't last long)
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my mate had a wizzard of nos kit on a vtr, easy DIY took us 4hours, took it off after a bit theo n sold it on ebay, it eat 2 head gasgets!!!! it was 25bhp system, might b ok on a desent proper car theo ;D
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If you want a faster car get a VR6! The idea of NOS in a 16V is just REDICULOUS!!!!
i say if you want nos in a 16v then do it! where's the fun in modifing cars if you go for the easy option every time. if i'm honest i was thinking about nitrous in my beast!!
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someone's been watching too much The Fast And The Furious. ;)
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Ok, first things first, Its not NOS its nitrous, NOS is a brand name, Just like Nitrous Express.
Secondly, If you have more than 20,000 miles on your motor, Forget it. Nitrous doesnt acctually cause damage to your motor unless somthings ready to break, If thats the case, It will speed up the damage process
Thirdly, If its a 16V its gonna take a LOT more work to get nitrous than you think, Its gonna have to be a direct port injection kit because of the macanical Injectors, Thats the most expencive kit avalable :-\
Forth, You have to choose how to run it, Theres no big red button like on TV, If you want more than 25BHPs worth of power, Your gonna need a progressive Timing controler that regulates how much goes in, This costs yet more ???
Fifth a ?6000 nitrous kit including instalation...Not good, Expecially not for direct port, I know the Bespoke Nitrous boys and they would still charge me ?1300 including fitting for a standard kit and computer, You could be looking at around ?2000 for direct port. You DONOT want to go for cheap kits on this one, Nitrous its self isnt explosive, However the tanks are pressurised and can explode, If one of the pipes had a crack in it your gonna also freeze everything around the pipe which can cause extencive damage.
Nitrous isnt as easy as the movies make out, If you still want it, Theres a lot to take in, I think the owner of Bespoke spent about an hour telling me all the rules of nitrous and how it works, Also, on an older engine, If you still want to risk running it, DONOT put in more than 50BHP progressive, You will kill it, Simple, However if you have a 1.8T motor, You can put a straight non progressive burt right in at 100BHP :o
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Oh, so NOS is not technically right. However, nitrous isn't either it's nitrous oxide. I really wanted a big red button, ideally on gear knob, but now you point out there isn't one I'm going off the idea!
Maybe I'll spend the money on a 1.6 driver instead and put a big sticker on the windscreen to bring it up to 16v spec.
Cheers.
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dont you put a switch on the accel pedal so when it gets to full throttle open the nitrous turns on? kinda automatic ???
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thats the best way yea, arm the system with a switch on the dash somewhere, then a microswitch under the pedal to give the kick when you're flooring it. jbs auto designs have successfully installed nitrous injection on several cars that i know of now (including a diesel) with great success, and more than 20,000 on the clock. ?6000 is a stupid figure, i think they quoted me ?1200 for a full kit with progressive controller and 6lb bottle - fitted.
same applies with any performance upgrade, if you have a weak part, its gonna break !
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hmmm i think some dummies are getting spit out here!
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Maybe I'll spend the money on a 1.6 driver instead and put a big sticker on the windscreen to bring it up to 16v spec.
Cheers.
Gee That got Persional.....Dont get me wrong, I wasnt trying to sound Insulting, I was just trying to pass my knollege about nitrous on.
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was funny though,
as for the kit do it, but only if your confident that the engine is perfect, but then again braking things is not fun but nessicary to learn or we'ed all be driving standard cars and planning the next service for the reliabilty chart!
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Oh, so NOS is not technically right. However, nitrous isn't either it's nitrous oxide. I really wanted a big red button, ideally on gear knob, but now you point out there isn't one I'm going off the idea!
Maybe I'll spend the money on a 1.6 driver instead and put a big sticker on the windscreen to bring it up to 16v spec.
Cheers.
you stroppy sh!t! >:( you obviously read fielders reply as an attack on your question but i didn't read it that way. you asked a question and he answered with the information he had, just cos you didn't like it theres no need to slag his car off. he never said a sticker was gonna make his car faster did he?
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The white sticker was put on as part of a deal to get my alloys for a discounted price, But oh well, Maybe it did sound a little preachy, But if he gets up-tight about it, its his problem. While writing that thread i was on the phone to the Owner of beespoke as he was asking me which year had the digifant induction on a 8V Gti, While there i was KIND enaugh to pass his question on to the owner of Beespoke, Maybe next time ill think twice about being helpfull.
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http://www.tigerstyle.co.uk/jbs/n20.htm
"Dear Santa.... "
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Thats a good looking kit Top, Comes with everything you could need, Not a bad price either! Does that include instalation??
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think so yea.. it says "Stealth installation" on it
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think so yea.. it says "Stealth installation" on it
That means you cant see them f**king your car up ;)
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Just like to point out that my friend has a modified 1.6 driver and although he doesnt have an oz racer sticker on his windscreen, he got some significantly discounted pioneer ICE for advertising them on his rear window? ;)?
Dont think the sticker makes his car go any faster but I think the big red Nitrous oxide button hes running may have something to do with his crazy speeds.? He got his Bespoke kit for ?2k for a full kit, with progressive controller and 6lb bottle - fitted.
He eats VR6s for breakfast! So why pay the extra insurance and running costs of a VR6 when u dont need to?? His car has done over 30,000 miles with the nitrous oxide kit on with no significant problems other than the usual wear and tear.? So if you want a Nitrous Oxide kit on your mk2 my advise to you is "Go for it".? :P ;D
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I dont want to piss any body off and i dont know lots but isnt the idea of modifiying to make it go faster handle better and look better? Even if it breaks thats part of the fun! Just replace the part with a better one! Thats my motto. I would put nitros on a 1.0 micra, cos hey it would be fun! who cares if the engine blows its only a car! And look at the big smile on your face from doing it! cmon people cant we all just get along.
At the end of the day half of us could never afford it but we like dreaming! We would be very sad if we didnt. who wants standard sensible cars anyway?
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He eats VR6s for breakfast! So why pay the extra insurance and running costs of a VR6 when u dont need to??
I take it your mate hasnt delcared that on his insurance then :P
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No I think he forgot to mention that ::) :P
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i think its tescos insurance that will insure nos for free as long as you sign a form saying you will never use it and its for show only ;D
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LOL I doubt it mate, Tescos wouldnt insure me on my car because it was lowerd ::) Last i heard Adrian Flux where the only insurance comampany that coverd N2O
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its one company who do it cheap if you say you wont use it (blags :D).
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not to be naughty but NOS is so simple to fit and remove you can take it of if needed, why pay that large extra sum, probably the same a every mod