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General => Detailing => Topic started by: baronvontinkle on 30 January 2010, 21:23
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Right.
The golf has been in the garage for the past 6 months cos of the weather and im getting it out this monday. Not something i've just noticed this but it need addressing.
Because of its age the paintjob is not looking very good, still ok but i think over time its lost all its laquer. This becomes apparent should i polish it. Dont do that anymore as it was taking too much off so i normally wax it a couple of times.
Question is. Is there something i can do to replace the laquer layer of sorts? a treatment maybe? Or is it a full respray job?
Thanks for any info,
Rich
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Right.
The golf has been in the garage for the past 6 months cos of the weather and im getting it out this monday. Not something i've just noticed this but it need addressing.
Because of its age the paintjob is not looking very good, still ok but i think over time its lost all its laquer. This becomes apparent should i polish it. Dont do that anymore as it was taking too much off so i normally wax it a couple of times.
Question is. Is there something i can do to replace the laquer layer of sorts? a treatment maybe? Or is it a full respray job?
Thanks for any info,
Rich
if your clearcoat is knackered then you'll be looking at a respray
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Hmm. Did think it would be.
Never having a car reprayed before, how much (ish) we looking for a respray on a mk2 golf with just the same colour (tornado red)
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Hmm. Did think it would be.
Never having a car reprayed before, how much (ish) we looking for a respray on a mk2 golf with just the same colour (tornado red)
a respray can vary so much, iv seen people do it for the cheap but then the paint started to peel within a few months, the annoying thing about a respray is you will defiantly lose money as it will never add that much value to your car in comparison with what you pay.
maybe put some pics up of your paintwork and maybe some of the pro detailers could advise you further :smiley:
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Hmm. Did think it would be.
Never having a car reprayed before, how much (ish) we looking for a respray on a mk2 golf with just the same colour (tornado red)
a respray can vary so much, iv seen people do it for the cheap but then the paint started to peel within a few months, the annoying thing about a respray is you will defiantly lose money as it will never add that much value to your car in comparison with what you pay.
maybe put some pics up of your paintwork and maybe some of the pro detailers could advise you further :smiley:
spot on :wink:
and yes get some pics up so we can give you a better diognosis :smiley:
if the car in question is currently tornado red it wont have a laquer on it.
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Hmm. Did think it would be.
Never having a car reprayed before, how much (ish) we looking for a respray on a mk2 golf with just the same colour (tornado red)
a respray can vary so much, iv seen people do it for the cheap but then the paint started to peel within a few months, the annoying thing about a respray is you will defiantly lose money as it will never add that much value to your car in comparison with what you pay.
maybe put some pics up of your paintwork and maybe some of the pro detailers could advise you further :smiley:
spot on :wink:
and yes get some pics up so we can give you a better diognosis :smiley:
if the car in question is currently tornado red it wont have a laquer on it.
Wont have laquer on it? how come?
As for a few pics here they are:
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv9/baron_von_tinkle/DSC00852.jpg)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv9/baron_von_tinkle/DSC00853.jpg)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv9/baron_von_tinkle/DSC00854-1.jpg)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv9/baron_von_tinkle/DSC00855.jpg)
What do you reckon professionals?
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Hmm. Did think it would be.
Never having a car reprayed before, how much (ish) we looking for a respray on a mk2 golf with just the same colour (tornado red)
a respray can vary so much, iv seen people do it for the cheap but then the paint started to peel within a few months, the annoying thing about a respray is you will defiantly lose money as it will never add that much value to your car in comparison with what you pay.
maybe put some pics up of your paintwork and maybe some of the pro detailers could advise you further :smiley:
spot on :wink:
and yes get some pics up so we can give you a better diognosis :smiley:
if the car in question is currently tornado red it wont have a laquer on it.
Wont have laquer on it? how come?
As for a few pics here they are:
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv9/baron_von_tinkle/DSC00852.jpg)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv9/baron_von_tinkle/DSC00853.jpg)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv9/baron_von_tinkle/DSC00854-1.jpg)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv9/baron_von_tinkle/DSC00855.jpg)
What do you reckon professionals?
From the pics I cannot see any laquer peel, what you have is a classic problem with red VW paint........
The car needs mopping, it will remove all of the fade that you can see, get it done by a proper detailer/valet company, then just keep on top of it with regular waxing and a couple of polishes through the year.
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That's good news then I guess.
What's this mopping?
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metalics have laquer(clearcote) flat paints dont which leaves them open to the elements more so than metalics.
your car has oxydation which is caused by uv sunlight damage, it breaks the paint down and if left it will eventually pit and allow contaminents to penatrate into the paint which will lead to rusting in the end :cry:
as said above you need to get it mopped out, this is done with a rotory machine and a various combo of pads and different grades of polishing compounds which remove the oxydation and make the surface smooth again, then a good sealant should be applyed which has uv inhibitors in it which will prevent this from happening again if kept on top of, sealant protection lasts from as little as 6months or up to 12 depending on the quality of the sealant applyed, then as said above a wax should be applyed to cap it all off so to speak.
if you get it mopped make sure the person doing it knows what he's doing and check out any past jobs if possible as a bandit will almost definatly go through your paint if hes inexperienced with a rotory on this kind of paint finish, your paint will be quite thin in places due to its age now;) and the fact it has no clearcote means caution must be taken when mopping especially on the tops of the wings and all the creeses and edges of each panel,the paint will be at its thinnest in these areas.
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just to add to Dan's post... last summer I did a classic faded red paint correction on an olop
your paint I would reckon should be correctable and protected for the futcher with a days work
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=122448.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=122448.0)
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just to add to Dan's post... last summer I did a classic faded red paint correction on an olop
your paint I would reckon should be correctable and protected for the futcher with a days work
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=122448.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=122448.0)
sorry guy totally forgot about that :embarassed: i should of added that in as its a perfect example of a before and after :wink:
yep check guys post out :wink: prepare to be wowed :shocked:
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cheers dan... I have sticked it now as it seems to be cropping up in posts a few times so we can find it in futcher!
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Quick Q - To do all of this what would you look at for costing? Or is it worth just having a full spray?
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Quick Q - To do all of this what would you look at for costing? Or is it worth just having a full spray?
thats the big question... some people would suggest paying £50 for a 'mop'
others prefer to pay a bit more and get a quality job... :wink:
if this is your only problem... ie. red paint that is faded you probably won't need a respray to get some kind of decent paint back... a quick inspection and test panel will soon tell you...
where are you based?
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Oh, i dont need mine doing. I was just interested in the pricing for personal knowledge
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prices can start at the 250/350mk and go up to a grand depending on what you want done and how bad the condition of the paint is to start with. sounds alot but theres alot of graft and skill involved in this job :wink:
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Definitely not a re-spray job, a good machine polish and then some good protection will have that looking like new.
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Thanks for all the info! Been very helpful. Glad it's not a repsray that's needed :)
I'll have to start phoning up valeting places and enquiring. What am I best asking for? If I mention mopping wud they know what I'm on about if their anygood?
Rich
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this is a list of all DW supporters in the North... if you tell them you have Tornado Pink VW paintwork and that you need it polishing to remove the oxidisation they will know exactly what you mean... get a quote from a few of them and if you have any questions come back...
NORTH
Name:Autoshine Specialist Valeting
Tel Contact: 07779143403
Website: www.autoshinespecialistvaleting.co.uk
Area:Yorkshire
Name:Carnoisseur (Auto Detail)
Tel Contact: 07930949821
Website: www.elitedetailer.co.uk
Area:York
Name:Cossie Devil
Tel Contact: 01782744115
Website: www.prestige-detailing.co.uk
Area:Staffordshire
Name: DPN
Tel Contact: 07759627237
Website: www.professional-car-valeting.c0m
Area:Harrogate/Nationwide/Abroad
Name:FinerDetails
Tel Contact: 07870 503197
Website: www.finerdetails.co.uk
Area:Greater Manchester / North West
Name: Miglior Detailing
Tel Contact: 07704001600
Website: www.miglior.co.uk
Area:NorthWest
Name: Mirror Finish Auto Detailing
Tel Contact: 07709393615
Website: www.mirrorfinishautodetailing.co.uk
Area:North West/Greater Manchester/Cheshire
Name: Off Your Marks - Detailing (zymol approved)
Tel Contact: 07881934788
Website: www.offyourmarks.com
Area:North West/Nationwide
Name: Pristine Detail
Tel Contact: 07850676906
Website:
Area:Bradford/West York
Name: alanjo99 (Shine Studio) -
Tel Contact: 07810098101
Website: www.shine-studio.co.uk
Area:North West
Name:The Polishing Company Limited (redcloudmc)
Tel Contact: 07739302698
Website: www.thepolishingcompany.com
Area:Newcastle/Bedford
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Would be good if you could post up some before/after pics if you get it done......
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Because of the price involved and my car not being that bad really (a good polish sorts it out really) i dont think i'm going to do it. Probably wait for it to get worse before I consider it.
Thanks for all the help though, definately going to help when i do come to do it