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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: HasH on 01 January 2010, 21:23
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Hello, I have a 2006 Golf 2.0 TDI 140 GT and was wondering if i was to get a turbo off of a 2.0 TDI 170 GT and fitted it to mine, then remap it with a Bluefin or Chipped UK unit would it work and run ok? or would i need to go for a live remap?
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For any upgraded turbo you would have to go for a "stage 3" map - ie either a custom map or a map that has already been developed for the upgraded turbo.
The turbo may fit, but would probably be better fitted with the manifold and downpipe off the 170 too - and then you would still have to delete the DPF.
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For any upgraded turbo you would have to go for a "stage 3" map - ie either a custom map or a map that has already been developed for the upgraded turbo.
The turbo may fit, but would probably be better fitted with the manifold and downpipe off the 170 too - and then you would still have to delete the DPF.
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thanks hurdy, ill just go for a Chipped UK ST3 unit on what i have then.
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Give R-Tech a call and see what they can do :wink:
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I can put you in touch with someone who can supply and fit the correct hardware & remap for what you are looking for. I think you will need bigger injectors too, so it's best to get your research done before you decide on your next step.
He has done quite a few larger turbo upgrades and has just finished a 300+ bhp conversion on a 1.9tdi.
PM me if you want his details.
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I can put you in touch with someone who can supply and fit the correct hardware & remap for what you are looking for. I think you will need bigger injectors too, so it's best to get your research done before you decide on your next step.
He has done quite a few larger turbo upgrades and has just finished a 300+ bhp conversion on a 1.9tdi.
PM me if you want his details.
What's the hardware spec of that? :huh:
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wonder if it smokes :laugh:
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What's the hardware spec of that? :huh:
Pretty substantial - strengthened & coated pistons etc... with a huge custom scroll turbo (with variable vanes) - a K04 next to it looks like a toy! Custom manifold. Apparently the additional power comes from the injectors - they're the largest set possible for this engine and aren't even used by the VW cup racing teams (I think there's only 1 set in the UK). Started life as a 170tdi.
I would guess the best part of £10k including the labour!
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What's the hardware spec of that? :huh:
Pretty substantial - strengthened & coated pistons etc... with a huge custom scroll turbo (with variable vanes) - a K04 next to it looks like a toy! Custom manifold. Apparently the additional power comes from the injectors - they're the largest set possible for this engine and aren't even used by the VW cup racing teams (I think there's only 1 set in the UK). Started life as a 170tdi.
I would guess the best part of £10k including the labour!
crikey!!
Is that a VW engine then? 170bhp TDI = 2.0 :nerd:
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Is that a VW engine then? 170bhp TDI = 2.0 :nerd:
Oops, you're right, I think it is an early 2ltr engine - it's on a 55 plate A3
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I can put you in touch with someone who can supply and fit the correct hardware & remap for what you are looking for. I think you will need bigger injectors too, so it's best to get your research done before you decide on your next step.
He has done quite a few larger turbo upgrades and has just finished a 300+ bhp conversion on a 1.9tdi.
PM me if you want his details.
i was hoping that the 170 turbo would just be plug and play, i would have gone for that if it was. i dont want to get to deep into. so i think ill just go for the remap. im sure ill be more than happy with that.
thanks for your help though people :smiley:
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Is that a VW engine then? 170bhp TDI = 2.0 :nerd:
Oops, you're right, I think it is an early 2ltr engine - it's on a 55 plate A3
doesn't happen to be a Black 3 door Quattro Audi either?? :huh:
I know of one which is running NOS, wather meth injection and a big huge ass turbo..........running approx 350ish bhp and 400lbs gt torque i think
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Yes, same car, but this turbo is much bigger (and replaces the twin sequential setup).
Sorry for going off topic :(
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Yes, same car, but this turbo is much bigger (and replaces the twin sequential setup).
Sorry for going off topic :(
thought it might have been - going for 400bhp isn't he? :huh:
Don't worry about going off topic - happens all the time :laugh: :laugh:
With regards to the OP, I'm not up to speed on the MK5 diesel engines but on the MK4 I know that the 150bhp turbo was a direct fit to the 130bhp engine so you'd only need the mapping to see it running tidy :wink:
A number of 130bhp TDI's are running a hybrid (uprated) version of the 150bhp turbo's and seeing a minimum of 230bhp and 350lbs ft toque :cool:
Following that logic I would have thought a 170bhp turbo would be a direct fit to the 140bhp engine
Does your 140bhp have the DPF fitted or are you one of the lucky ones that don't? Either way a decat downpipe will help free up some mid range grunt and help increase average power across the rev range making for a much quicker car
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I thought the Allard Audi was a GT TDI 140 :huh: you mean this car (http://www.allardmotorcompany.com/filestore/list/documents/Allard-A3-TDI-quattro.pdf) owner devonmikeyboy
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Also remember that the 140 is a PD and the 170 is a common rail diesel, so they will have different fuelling maps altogether :smiley:
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early ones where PD, newer ones are common rail think vw dropped the PD engines in 2007
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early ones where PD, newer ones are common rail think vw dropped the PD engines in 2007
The OP's is a 2006 model :smiley:
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The 2.0 litre engines are all common rail, so the OP's 140 would be common rail. The other mk5 diesels were the 90, 110 and maybe (not sure) 130 1.9 PD engines.
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Yes, same car, but this turbo is much bigger (and replaces the twin sequential setup).
Sorry for going off topic :(
thought it might have been - going for 400bhp isn't he? :huh:
Don't worry about going off topic - happens all the time :laugh: :laugh:
With regards to the OP, I'm not up to speed on the MK5 diesel engines but on the MK4 I know that the 150bhp turbo was a direct fit to the 130bhp engine so you'd only need the mapping to see it running tidy :wink:
A number of 130bhp TDI's are running a hybrid (uprated) version of the 150bhp turbo's and seeing a minimum of 230bhp and 350lbs ft toque :cool:
Following that logic I would have thought a 170bhp turbo would be a direct fit to the 140bhp engine
Does your 140bhp have the DPF fitted or are you one of the lucky ones that don't? Either way a decat downpipe will help free up some mid range grunt and help increase average power across the rev range making for a much quicker car
DPF? Whats that? And how would i find out if it has or not?
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DPF? Whats that? And how would i find out if it has or not?
Diesel Particulate filter is fitted to the downpipe from the turbo
removing it can throw up a fault code unless you get it mapped out
Only way to check would be to visually inspect or ask your local dealer to confirm if one was fitted :undecided:
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The 2.0 litre engines are all common rail, so the OP's 140 would be common rail. The other mk5 diesels were the 90, 110 and maybe (not sure) 130 1.9 PD engines.
Both my 140TDI's were PD :smiley:
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DPF? Whats that? And how would i find out if it has or not?
Diesel Particulate filter is fitted to the downpipe from the turbo
removing it can throw up a fault code unless you get it mapped out
Only way to check would be to visually inspect or ask your local dealer to confirm if one was fitted :undecided:
better performance without it im guessing.
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DPF? Whats that? And how would i find out if it has or not?
Diesel Particulate filter is fitted to the downpipe from the turbo
removing it can throw up a fault code unless you get it mapped out
Only way to check would be to visually inspect or ask your local dealer to confirm if one was fitted :undecided:
better performance without it im guessing.
yep - you won't get more peak BHP but your average BHP will increase about 10bhp across the rev range and torque will be meatier too :cool: