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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 19:26

Title: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 19:26
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/200950348418940/sort/priceasc/usedcars/make/volkswagen/model/golf/fuel-type/diesel/maximum-mileage/over_100000_miles/price-to/4000/price-from/3000/postcode/ne237xj/radius/10/page/1?previous=%2Fsearch%2Fresults%2Fusedcars%2Fpostcode%2Fne237xj%2Fradius%2F10%2Fmake%2Fvolkswagen%2Fmodel%2Fgolf%2Ffuel-type%2Fdiesel%2Fmaximum-mileage%2Fover_100000_miles%2Fprice-to%2F4000%2Fprice-from%2F3000%2Fsort%2Fpriceasc%2Fpage%2F1&anchor=advert200950348418940&logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/200950348418940/sort/priceasc/usedcars/make/volkswagen/model/golf/fuel-type/diesel/maximum-mileage/over_100000_miles/price-to/4000/price-from/3000/postcode/ne237xj/radius/10/page/1?previous=%2Fsearch%2Fresults%2Fusedcars%2Fpostcode%2Fne237xj%2Fradius%2F10%2Fmake%2Fvolkswagen%2Fmodel%2Fgolf%2Ffuel-type%2Fdiesel%2Fmaximum-mileage%2Fover_100000_miles%2Fprice-to%2F4000%2Fprice-from%2F3000%2Fsort%2Fpriceasc%2Fpage%2F1&anchor=advert200950348418940&logcode=p)

2001 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.9 GT TDI 5dr Diesel Hatchback
2001 Reg Hatchback
125,000 miles
Manual 1.9L
Diesel
£3,495 (sounds negotiable might get it for £3K or thereabouts)

The advert is quite poor as he hasn't added all the details but I've spoken to the seller. Don't have all details in front of me but will add as I remember/get them.

He says he thinks its the 150 BHP but not sure so I'm going to check the engine number and plug it into diagnostic computer
125,000 miles
Got MOT but I can't remember when until
Full service history stamped every 10K or thereabouts
4 previous owners
Last service in April at 122,000 miles (just before he bought car from dealer)
Timing belt last done at 80,000 miles
Not taxed as his wife is disabled and get it free so would need to be taxed
18" alloy wheels (Replicas from Foxhunters)
It's got brand new tyres on it
Factory fitted CD player
Traction control
Climate control

The car was originally registered with reg CN51 VKS
It was changed to a private plate K18 LJD in 2005

He bought the car from a local dealer M&S Car Sales in Ponteland, Northumberland in April 2009. It's only done 3,000 miles since then. His story is that he bought it for his wife and it isn't being used so they are downsizing to one car. He is an out of work taxi driver and has 12 points on his licence. His other car is an Octavia (170bhp or something).

Opinions appreciated.
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: dai-cymru on 15 December 2009, 19:41
k18ljd comes up as a 2003 beetle, on the insurance data base
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 19:46
I checked that too so want to see the VRN and the docs for myself tomorrow morning before paying for HPI.

Did all 150's have the wood surround because it hasn't got the wood.
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: dai-cymru on 15 December 2009, 19:50
I checked that too so want to see the VRN and the docs for myself tomorrow morning before paying for HPI.

Did all 150's have the wood surround because it hasn't got the wood.

not all, seems strange to show up as a beetle the 150 tdi's have a front mount intercooler
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 19:52
Unless I've wrote it down wrong won't be 100% sure until tomorrow.

I've got a suspicion it's an import. Been in UK since 2001 but not sure of the implications of this :undecided:
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 20:04
being a 51 plate i very much doubt its a 150bhp diesel unless its a very early example

the 150bhp diesels didn't become common place until 2002 when it was first launched (I think) in the Anniversary model
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: dai-cymru on 15 December 2009, 20:06
being a 51 plate i very much doubt its a 150bhp diesel unless its a very early example

the 150bhp diesels didn't become common place until 2002 when it was first launched (I think) in the Anniversary model

my mates was a 52 plate 150 none anni
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 20:08
being a 51 plate i very much doubt its a 150bhp diesel unless its a very early example

the 150bhp diesels didn't become common place until 2002 when it was first launched (I think) in the Anniversary model

my mates was a 52 plate 150 none anni

that's what I said isn't it  :undecided:  It was from 2002 that you could get them in Anniversary and non-anniversary models.  I did say 'first available on the anni models'  :smiley:
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 20:10
To be honest I'm hoping its the 130 but if its a 115 I would be a bit put off and a 110 out of the question. It hans't got the wood so I doubt it's the 150.
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 20:15
To be honest I'm hoping its the 130 but if its a 115 I would be a bit put off and a 110 out of the question. It hans't got the wood so I doubt it's the 150.

yeah i test drove the 115bhp and it just didn't have the urgency of the 130bhp  :sad:
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 20:17
Do you think the 115 post R-Tech might be passable? He says he thinks its quicker than his 170bhp Octavia
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 20:20
Do you think the 115 post R-Tech might be passable? He says he thinks its quicker than his 170bhp Octavia

urm no  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  who said its quicker than his 170bhp Octavia?  :undecided:
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: dai-cymru on 15 December 2009, 20:21
Do you think the 115 post R-Tech might be passable? He says he thinks its quicker than his 170bhp Octavia

urm no  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  who said its quicker than his 170bhp Octavia?  :undecided:

the seller  :shocked: doesnt sound quite right this golf mate
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 20:26
Yep the seller. Well he's doing the talking his wife is the reg keeper.

I think he's saying that because I wanted to know if it is definately the 150. He's saying he thinks it could have been remaped.

I've only driven one and they said it was the 150, but it had the arm rest. One insurance company thought it was the 130, one thought it was the 150 and HPI didn't say so I haven't got much to compare it to.

It's going up on the hoist tomorrow for my MOT tester to have a good poke around and it will be getting a RAC HPI if I go for it. Should I HPI the old reg or the private plate?
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 22:35
Thinking about it it can't be a 110 because it's got a 6 speed. If a remaped 115 goes to 244 lbft of torque then would it be ok on a stock clutch? :undecided:

Do you think the 115 post R-Tech might be passable? He says he thinks its quicker than his 170bhp Octavia

urm no  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  who said its quicker than his 170bhp Octavia?  :undecided:
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: Adam on 16 December 2009, 00:21
Whip up the bonnet and look at the engine.

The 150s had the intake pipe going to the passenger side and the 130,115 went into the driverside arch.


(http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8099/54027440.jpg)

Above is the 150
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 16 December 2009, 11:26
Right it's a 130, checked the engine number and it's ASZ, it's 96kW and it has the arm rest. It's got the HIGHL (Highline) in the right places which I believe indicates it's the GT? That’s just what I want.

I got the reg wrong it's actually K18 RJD but I can't find anything on the insurance database. Quote without the reg is about £590a year.

VIN number matches up. FSH checks out and it's been UK registered since manufacture. Got the past few MOT’s with one failure for wiper blade failing to clear the windscreen. The full VOSA printout shows a few advisories in years past for worn brakes but the disks callipers and pads look very new.

It drives very nicely, I thought I had possibly noticed a tiny flat spot but couldn't get it to do it again. I think possibly the MAF might need a clean as the engine bay is quite dusty and looks like it could do with a jet down. It has climate control not air con and does not have traction control but does have the button next to it begging with E, is this EDL, EBD, ESP or something? It can be turned on and off.

Took it to the garage let my mechanic have a good poke around. All seems mechanically sound. One rear panel seems ever so slightly off but my mechanic says he's checked thoroughly and can't see any sign of any crash damage or the likes at all.

Body work seems to be in excellent condition and interior is very clean. Bad points one of the front alloys has a slight curb but this would probably come up nice with a light refurb and the cover seems to have come off the arm rest. Easily fixable I'm sure. The steering wheel seems to have a lot of wear and I'd been keen to replace it, probably with a R32 wheel.

Thought and opinions appreciated.
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: Rhyso on 16 December 2009, 11:36
Yep Highline = GT

ESP = Electronic Stability Program / traction control
Otherwise it will be ASR like on mine

EDIT - just seen the first post Whats the mileage on this one and what price is it up for?
See if you can get it for 3K  :wink:
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 16 December 2009, 11:42
It's the same one mate. 125,600 miles and asking price is £3,495ONO

The price is negotiable but he doesn't sound like he will negotiate too far as he seems very confident in it selling this week. The faults I can pick for haggling so far are:
The curbed alloy (they are very nice alloys mind)
The rear panel
The spare wheel doesn’t have a tyre on it
The steering wheel is worn
The arm rest top cover has come off
It has tax for a disabled person so effectively no tax
Timing belt was last done at 80K so I've told him it's due at 120K and will cost at least £400 (I could actually leave it until 140K and it will cost me closer to £200)

If I go for it I'll be letting my mechanic drive it like I did with the one in Bradford and I need to remember to check all the doors, CD player etc.
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 16 December 2009, 11:52
That's what I'm thinking. And if not I'll get off as much as I can but if the HPI checks out it's probably worth the asking price?

Yep Highline = GT

ESP = Electronic Stability Program / traction control
Otherwise it will be ASR like on mine

EDIT - just seen the first post Whats the mileage on this one and what price is it up for?
See if you can get it for 3K  :wink:
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: Rhyso on 16 December 2009, 11:58
That's what I'm thinking. And if not I'll get off as much as I can but if the HPI checks out it's probably worth the asking price?


at least get the tax for the year knocked off  :wink:  Id start at £3K and pay no more than £3250 after looking at your list  :smiley:
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 16 December 2009, 12:00
HPI checks out

I'm exciteddddd! About to be inducted into the flippy key crew :evil:
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 16 December 2009, 12:01
It had celotape around the key as well and I did'nt have a good look at it but why could this be?
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 16 December 2009, 12:19
Just spoke to him and going back tonight, deal to be done at £3,200 if all else appears fine.
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: Rhyso on 16 December 2009, 12:20
Just spoke to him and going back tonight, deal to be done at £3,200 if all else appears fine.

:afro:

Welcome to the 'My Golf has broken down again' crew  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 16 December 2009, 12:21
Don't start that sh!te I had enough of that with my Clio
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: Rhyso on 16 December 2009, 12:25
Don't start that sh!te I had enough of that with my Clio

I'm sure it will be fine  :smiley:
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 16 December 2009, 12:45
Insurance changes over tonight: wink: Taxing it is going to be complicated by all accounts due to the fact it’s got disability tax on and I don’t have a cover note just the insurance reference
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: dai-cymru on 16 December 2009, 13:12
Insurance changes over tonight: wink: Taxing it is going to be complicated by all accounts due to the fact it’s got disability tax on and I don’t have a cover note just the insurance reference

and you have to go to a dvla local office to reregister that it's not in the disabled class,
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 16 December 2009, 13:28
Yes I’ve spoken to them and they’ve said I need the V5 or new owner slip and MOT as well as original cover note. My insurance company offer guaranteed next day for £7.50. Seems expensive just for a cover note and the car will be going in for a service tomorrow anyway so I’ll just wait.
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: Mk1Macca on 16 December 2009, 15:10
Should try and insure with HIC. They do it all by email and send it to you instantly for you to print off  :smiley:
Title: Re: URGENT: Buying Advice Needed
Post by: smiiithy on 16 December 2009, 15:19
They said they would fax it but DVLA said they wouldn't accept an e-mailed or faxed copy. I'd lose a years no claims if I switch mid-year and Bell are on average £2.5K a year cheaper than the rest