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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Hurdy on 30 November 2009, 13:27
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I've been messing about with the car now for the best part of two years to try and get the best out of the old girl and slowly but surely increasing the power and associated hardware to cope. Just been to my regular Dyno at Noble Motorsport to get my next set of figures up and here they are..................
378.6bhp at 6872 rpm and 353.6lbft at 3554 rpm
Over 300bhp from 4,500rpm to the redline
Over 300lbft from 3,300rpm to 6,600rpm
Makes stock ED30 power by 3,500rpm
First set was taken a few weeks back and is in dotted lines. Todays set of figures are in solid ink.
The figures have been going up slowly from 300bhp through 333bhp to my latest set of figures. A few weeks ago there was a bunch of Focus ST owners on an RR day with remaps etc, struggling to get much over stock bhp on this same dyno.
Enjoy :cool:
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Nobledynograph30112009.jpg)
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can I see your reg no! :laugh:
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can I see your reg no! :laugh:
Not to worry, I doubt anyone would clone my car exactly :grin:
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Impressive. Hurdy, any particular thread where I can read about the work you've done to achieve that?
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Impressive. Hurdy, any particular thread where I can read about the work you've done to achieve that?
I need to update my build thread. It is about a year and a half out of date :embarassed:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=76660.0
Here's a quick rundown (may have missed something?)
Year: 2007
Model: Golf GTI Edition 30 - UK model
Color: Reflex Silver
Transmission: DSG
Interior seat/trim color: Special half leather/interlagos trim
Exterior Modifications
OSIR Carbon fibre hood
OSIR Carbon Fibre wing mirrors
OSIR Carbon Fibre rear spoiler
Carbondynamics Carbonfibre front badge
Carbondynamics Carbonfibre rear badge
Ultra headlights with LED's and angel eyes.
18 inch Team Dynamics BTCC wheels with VW centre caps - Vredestein Assym road tyres
Stubby aerial
Interior Modifications
CG-Lock seatbelt fasteners.
Kenwood DNX 7200.
Bluetooth prep.
IPOD video link.
Park reverse camera.
Hertz "Hi-energy" speakers front and rear.
Hertz "Hi-energy" 10" sub in custom wheel arch build.
Audiobahn 4 way Amp
Carbon Fiber DSG paddle shift extensions
Stainless "GTI" footrest
OSIR carbon fiber gearshift surround
Performance/Handling Modifications
Forge Diverter valve.
EVOMS intake
Autotech fuel pump.
REVO Stage 2+ (3 for the US guys!)
Milltek full turbo-back exhaust.
Forge Intercooler.
Autotech lightweight front and rear Anti-roll bars.
17 inch Team Dynamics 1.2 BTCC wheels - with TOYO R888 rubber for the track
TAROX 10 pot GT front brake kit
Audi S3 rear brake kit (310mm vented disks)
DOT 5.1 brake fluid
APR torque arm insert.
Bilstein B16 PSS10's
Whiteline anti-lift kit
GIAC DSG remap
Performance stats
378.6bhp and 353.6lbft
0-60mph 5.03 seconds (now most likely faster!!)
1/4 mile - 13.15 seconds @ 109.2mph
Future Planned Modifications
Wizards of NOS - 50 shot progressive.
400+bhp here I come!!!!!
Quaife ATB diff - this week
VF engineering engine mounts - this week
Decat section
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I dread to think how much all that cost.
Very impressive though.
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Very impressive on a std K04 turbo - I always thought they maxxed out at around 350bhp.
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Thanks - these are the bits I'm interested in :smiley:
Performance/Handling Modifications
Forge Diverter valve.
EVOMS intake
Autotech fuel pump.
REVO Stage 2+ (3 for the US guys!)
Milltek full turbo-back exhaust.
Forge Intercooler.
I'm just researching potential mods for the new toy I'm getting next year. You mention a custom remap in your build thread, but are there any other mods? I was reading Volkswagen Driver mag featured a APR-tuned Ed30 with 330bhp. Seems like a similar spec but without the larger intercooler and modified intake.
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Very good. :cool: :smiley:
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stunning mate....how hard are up grade parts to get hold of...i love that bonnet
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Thanks - these are the bits I'm interested in :smiley:
Performance/Handling Modifications
Forge Diverter valve.
EVOMS intake
Autotech fuel pump.
REVO Stage 2+ (3 for the US guys!)
Milltek full turbo-back exhaust.
Forge Intercooler.
I'm just researching potential mods for the new toy I'm getting next year. You mention a custom remap in your build thread, but are there any other mods? I was reading Volkswagen Driver mag featured a APR-tuned Ed30 with 330bhp. Seems like a similar spec but without the larger intercooler and modified intake.
I've had APR, Custom-Code and REVO ECU software on my car and by far and away the best for me is the REVO. With the SPS+ controller it allows you to alter the Boost, fuelling and timing of the car within certain guidelines and hence make the best of your car's performance. Custom-Code was a very smooth progressive map, but ultimately didn't give the power or the flexibility I was after. APR was the first map I put on the car and to be honest it wasn't giving the figures I wanted at the time - other cars seemed to be making more power and were faster with the same hardware added!!! I've heard good things about Bluefin, but again it doesn't give you the flexibility that REVO does and on most of the RR's I've been on REVO comes out on top in the big bhp willy waving :laugh: GIAC is another well known tuner and my local tuner is a GIAC dealer and swears by it. I bought my GIAC DSG software from them, but am awaiting an update as certain functions aren't working on it (the map is still better than stock, but not at the level I want). There are a couple of smaller less known tuners like R-tech and Shark Performance, but I can't really give a true comment as I haven't had any dealings with them.
An ED30 with 330bhp will be a solid performer, but power can be had elsewhere and probably just as reliably. It all depends on how far you want to modify your car. Look at me, I only wanted a forum sticker when I joined here :grin:
My personal recommendation would be:-
Revision D OEM diverter valve - works just as well as the Forge and is £100 cheaper.
Cone style intake - there are many on the market and the one I'd lean towards would be my EVOM's - why? - No MAF or other faults coming up and it gives good gains.
Autotech fuel pump - well, really it is just uprated internals for the OEM pump, but it is much cheaper than the APR pump and from what I've seen, gives slightly better gains.
APR full 3" turbo-back exhaust - It doesn't give any extra gains over the Milltek or Blueflame, but it sounds absolutely gorgeous. If you want quieter, then have the Milltek resonated TBE.
The intercooler is interesting, personally I would always recommend a front mounted intercooler, but the ED30 theoretically had a "mounted behind the radiator" intercooler. The solution is to either go bigger and stick with the OEM location - in which case I would recommend the THS intercooler, or you go for a dual intercooler set-up - in which case I would recommend a Forge Twintercooler. Both give good gains and the cost to buy and fit is similar.
ECU remap - Well I'd have to say REVO.
Remember though, modifying a car is all about balance. You will find that as you give the car more power it will unsettle the suspension and the braking limitations begin to show.
It is properly scary how fast a tuned ED30 can put speed on and even more scary is how suddenly you realise that the next corner is coming up too fast, at which point you need the brakes and suspension.
I'd rather have uprated brakes and suspension and not need them, than not have them and need them :cool:
HTH
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Remember though, modifying a car is all about balance. You will find that as you give the car more power it will unsettle the suspension and the braking limitations begin to show.
HTH
Very impressive Hurdy. Good point you make above about brakes and suspension. My nephew runs his own tuning company specifically for the japanese tuning scene (evo's, scoobys, supras, etc). He said it's surprising how many cars he gets in that have been tuned to hell with massive BHP figures but still on stock brakes and suspension. One guy in particular has a Mazda 323 Turbo 4x4 about 15-20 years old, but in mint condition. He had spent a kings ransom on the engine which was now producing about 330bhp (standard was about 150bhp). It was still on the stock brakes, and these apparently were a very iffy on the standard model anyway!
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I'd rather have uprated brakes and suspension and not need them, than not have them and need them :cool:
Couldn't agree more - that's where I always start when uprating a car's performance. In real-world driving, you get more from a good chassis set-up than most people think. My upgrade path usually goes like this:
1. suspension,
2. tyres and wheels,
3. brakes, ready now for...
4. engine :cool:
I'd think the larger intercooler is key to allowing the most from the K04 - do you know what boost pressure are you running?
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Hi Mac,
I'm running a peak boost of just over 1.6bar, which drops back to around 1.55bar all the way to 6k rpm, where it tails off to 1.3bar by the redline upshift point. :cool:
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Awesome power, Hurdy, although what's it like to put that through the front wheels?
Thanks for the wee product review ditty in one of your posts above - it's sorted my mods list for the next few months!
Keep the developments coming :afro:
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Awesome power, Hurdy, although what's it like to put that through the front wheels?
Thanks for the wee product review ditty in one of your posts above - it's sorted my mods list for the next few months!
Keep the developments coming :afro:
I'm used to metering my right foot to suit the conditions :grin:
It had no problem getting around the 'ring in just over 9 minutes.....in the wet.....on semi slicks.....with 2 x 15 stone+ men in :shocked:
As for the mini product review....anyone can ask me anything they want on most modification products and I'll be able to either answer it or find an answer :cool:
The developments will keep coming.....the Quaife ATB Limited slip differential for my DSG is being fitted this week alongside full VF mounts for the transmission and engine. Can't wait to try out the Quaife :evil:
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Hurdy, any tips on what to log? Would you say boost 9 is the best setting for tuned KO4's?
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It had no problem getting around the 'ring in just over 9 minutes.....in the wet.....on semi slicks.....with 2 x 15 stone+ men in
:shocked:
Bet that was fun AND terrifying all at the same time! :laugh:
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Hurdy, any tips on what to log? Would you say boost 9 is the best setting for tuned KO4's?
Hi Micky,
Boost 9 or 8 and sometimes 7 are what most people tend to run using a K04 and REVO. Boost 9 can sometimes knock a little off the peak power, but overall it will feel the most powerful on the road.
Specifically I would always refer you to the REVO PDF file for setting up your car in any state of tune. Messing about with the REVO settings should be done in conjunction with logging runs on VAG-COM/VCDS to ensure the engine is running within the recognised parameters.
Boost 9 could actually reduce the lifespan of the turbo, but even on a K04 it still runs at about 0.14bar below the maximum the ECU can deal with on max boost setting. :smiley:
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It had no problem getting around the 'ring in just over 9 minutes.....in the wet.....on semi slicks.....with 2 x 15 stone+ men in
:shocked:
Bet that was fun AND terrifying all at the same time! :laugh:
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Pant wettingly fun for the passenger :grin:
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It had no problem getting around the 'ring in just over 9 minutes.....in the wet.....on semi slicks.....with 2 x 15 stone+ men in
:shocked:
Bet that was fun AND terrifying all at the same time! :laugh:
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Pant wettingly fun for the passenger :grin:
Dam scary especially with Mr Hurdy behind the wheel!
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It had no problem getting around the 'ring in just over 9 minutes.....in the wet.....on semi slicks.....with 2 x 15 stone+ men in
:shocked:
Bet that was fun AND terrifying all at the same time! :laugh:
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Pant wettingly fun for the passenger :grin:
Dam scary especially with Mr Hurdy behind the wheel!
:rolleyes:
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It had no problem getting around the 'ring in just over 9 minutes.....in the wet.....on semi slicks.....with 2 x 15 stone+ men in
:shocked:
Bet that was fun AND terrifying all at the same time! :laugh:
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Pant wettingly fun for the passenger :grin:
Dam scary especially with Mr Hurdy behind the wheel!
:rolleyes:
I'm not that fast and scary in my car......honest :evil:
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:cool:That must be like poo off a polished shovel :cool: