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Title: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 28 November 2009, 10:37
Undecided , I tested the mk6 yesterday lovely drive so refined , I was offerd 18,000 for mine 58plate edition30! my question is would I be going backwards? need you guys to make my mind ??? Loved the mk6 very nice loads of improvement on the mk5!! thanks Steve30 :wink:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 28 November 2009, 10:39
Only you can decide. If your talking mk6 GTI not the mk6 R its not going to be as powerful or have the tunning capability. But its all down to your priorities.

If it was me with my priorities, i would not be even thinking of doing it with a 2008 ED30, But many others do like to change cars regular im not one of them. Only you can decide.
 
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 28 November 2009, 10:47
Yes mate, I agree with you but its difficult deision to make, not to botherd about the power loss!! Not in into moding, I value the warrenty to much!! Also whats putting me a bit is the waiting list & the looks of car, I do think the mk5 gti looks awsome, but mk6 drives brilliant ???? Thanks for response steve30
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 28 November 2009, 10:55
The wait will kill you if you go for a factory orderd mk6 GTI. I know, I ordered in August and the build week has kept moving further and further away. I was actually suppose to have my car this week! ,originally. My car now does not even have a provisional build week any longer so looks like March or later before i may get mine!
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: hib747 on 28 November 2009, 10:58
If your not into the looks as much don't do it. Wait to see if it grows on you then get one. If your gonna spend that much surely you'll want something that looks as good as it drives!!  
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: gossa on 28 November 2009, 11:43
Steve, get a MK 6 revo'd then it will be an upgrade in every area for you. Don't be afraid of mapping, it just releases the true potential of the car.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Exonian on 28 November 2009, 12:33
Having come from a mk5 myself (I've had two, one TDI and one GTI), and a host of other VW GTIs and Cupras before, I don't think the mk6 offers anything above the mk5 apart from added 'refinement' and better fuel economy.
I got shot of my mk5 for a few reasons (mostly due to impending expenditure), but it was an early one, never saw the point in getting a later model as they actually had less standard spec and looked the same. I did however consider an ED30 and Pirelli before I plumped for the mk6.
As Snoopy says, there are a million and one arguments for either car (which is basically the same car) depending on your personal tastes and circumstances, but as your car is so new it makes little financial or driving sense.
If I were wearing your boots I'd stick with the ED30 and improve it slightly (Koni FSD dampers, Black Detroit alloys and a dash of Revo). But that's not your thing so I can't really answer it for you aside from give you my opinion which is the same as Snoopy's. And unlike Snoops I do like to change my cars like my underwear (about once a year!!!!).
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: jdjd on 28 November 2009, 12:37
Tempt me on an Offer on mine, 24k and its gone  :evil:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Jkctr on 28 November 2009, 12:43
Downgrade.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: keelaw on 28 November 2009, 14:46

Given the priorities Steve has set out:


Pros:
- Mk6 more refined
- Nicer interior
- More toys you can spec
- "fresh" 3yr warranty
- wait isn't so bad since you'll have your Ed30 in the meantime!
- Personally I like the looks, esp the front end, a lot more
- Kudos of the newer car

Cons:
- Wasting at least 1 years warranty on the ed30
- Cult status of the Ed30
- Drop in power
- Suffer depreciation since changing your car so early
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 28 November 2009, 15:53
Yes there is an R32 for sale there with just 3000 on the clock !! mint condition thats also tempting but road tax is 400quid where as the MK6 175 a year. It seems we pay road tax in this country for pot holes??? :angry:. I am on the verge of doing the deal for the mk6 deisions, deisions deisions!!!  :shocked: :wink:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: keelaw on 28 November 2009, 15:58

which dealer are you going to?  i tried the one in morden and another in surrey, but they gave me rubbish deals.  wandsworth?

i'm in raynes park.  happy to let you have a further nosy around my car if you like.


Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: MDSS MK6 on 28 November 2009, 16:04
Yes there is an R32 for sale there with just 3000 on the clock !! mint condition thats also tempting but road tax is 400quid where as the MK6 175 a year. It seems we pay road tax in this country for pot holes??? :angry:. I am on the verge of doing the deal for the mk6 deisions, deisions deisions!!!  :shocked: :wink:

I ended up going this way, albeit with 24k on the clock, and have absolutely no regrets, the R32 is a great car, good enough that I don't mind the extra running costs (more than covered by the saving over a mk6 gti). I guess the costs issue depends on your milage etc, but give one a go if u can.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 28 November 2009, 16:18
Hmm a tough call this one... but if you are not going to mod then I would suggest the R32. It all depends on the mileage you do really, but I estimate that I am 6mpg better off with the GTI than I was the R32 so not that much in it I would say.

The mk6 will no doubt lose the most money, where as the R32 is more than holding its own and will prove to be a future classic.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: keelaw on 28 November 2009, 16:30

i saw a 5dr R32 in black around clapham... did look v tasty and sounded even better!

the R32 wheels are defo very stylish... more restrained in looks and classier than the Monza IIs imo, but a GTI has to have the Monzas!
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: p3eps on 28 November 2009, 16:51
I would stick with the Edition 30...

The MK6 is a lovely car, and as you've mentioned - a bit more refined... but I don't feel its enough of an upgrade to justify your cash on.
Keelaw has given some good pros and cons of the swap, but unless you have some spare cash burning a hole in your pocket then I wouldn't bother.

The R32 is also a nice car, but its not going to give you the nice refined drive you got in the MK6.  When I bought my Ed30, I could have had a brand new R32 for almost the same price.  I chose the ED30 - cheaper to run and faster.  Personally I don't see the R32 as an upgrade to the ED30 - except the 4wd and the engine note!
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: keelaw on 28 November 2009, 17:07
good points.... but I don't think Steve is necessarily after an upgrade (what ever that means... since it'll be different to different people).  not everyone has to go for more power, or faster lap times, or better handling.  comfort, gadgets, looks, kudos, lower costs are all valid reasons for changing as well.

that said however, since we're GTI/ R32 owners, a car's performance should be pretty high on our list of wants!!


edit: actually i realise, I've never checked out an ED30. would be cool to do a comparison!
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: simonpolly on 28 November 2009, 17:15
I`d stick with the ED30,i`ve got a mk6 gti but if i already had a mk5 i don`t think i would have changed it for the mk6.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 28 November 2009, 17:27
^ thats how i feel too and its simply not worth the hassle at the present time. Maybe in a years time or 6 months time when VW have got there act together over build times and slots but at the moment its just simply not worth the headacre.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 28 November 2009, 18:24
Undecided , I tested the mk6 yesterday lovely drive so refined , I was offerd 18,000 for mine 58plate edition30! my question is would I be going backwards? need you guys to make my mind ??? Loved the mk6 very nice loads of improvement on the mk5!! thanks Steve30 :wink:
..........for me it's keep the edition 30.VW got the looks/performance/styling spot on with it.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 28 November 2009, 18:30
Its a common myth that the ED30 is faster than a R32... a remapped one, yes. Std no. :nerd:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Jkctr on 28 November 2009, 19:32
Its a common myth that the ED30 is faster than a R32... a remapped one, yes. Std no. :nerd:

Why would VW make another golf quicker than their flagship after all.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 28 November 2009, 21:11
Its a common myth that the ED30 is faster than a R32... a remapped one, yes. Std no. :nerd:

Why would VW make another golf quicker than their flagship after all.

They did  :laugh:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: gossa on 28 November 2009, 21:39
I would have thought an ED30 and an R32 would be level pegging considering weight/power differences.

I drove both a couple of years ago, loved the way the R32 held the road and cool engine note, amazing car.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Jkctr on 28 November 2009, 22:37
Its a common myth that the ED30 is faster than a R32... a remapped one, yes. Std no. :nerd:

Why would VW make another golf quicker than their flagship after all.

They did  :laugh:

They haven't? Even modded vs modded an R32 would win - 500+bhp turbo vs 300bhp remap

ED30 is slower, will be close in a straight but be left behind on the twisty bits. GTI is slower noticeably.

MK6 GTI is slower than the upcoming Golf R (the new flagship)
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 29 November 2009, 08:02
I would have thought an ED30 and an R32 would be level pegging considering weight/power differences.

I drove both a couple of years ago, loved the way the R32 held the road and cool engine note, amazing car.

IIRC the ED30 was a full 3secs slower than the R32 around the TG track... thats a HUGE difference for a car thats supposed to be quicker. In std form the ed30 will only keep up with the R in the dry and on a straight.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 29 November 2009, 08:12
Yes im not talking Track times, and nor to Vw quote there standin start runs either in track times.

No disbuting the wheel wheel drive round a track benefit, but if i was following from 40mph and nailed the throttle, it would be see you later R32  :wink:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: HA54SYM` on 29 November 2009, 08:58
Well going against the grain here, we have an Edition 30 and are swaping it for a mk6 GTi.

Had a mk6 GTI for the day, and yes its not as quick as the Edition 30, but not by much and in the real world its fine.

Big thing for me, (well the wife), is it is much nicer inside, and much quieter than the Edition 30, which on long motorways runs can be a pain, which we do often.

But TBH I agree about the hassle, and am wondering if we will get one in March as quoted.

Just working on getting mk5 track car put together at the moment to replace my ageing Tomcat, as I really would keep the Edition 30 and track it, but I'm not allowed  :embarassed:

I say if you can afford it go for it. We only plan to keep the mk6 for a couple of years anyway, and would be tempted by an R then.

Dave
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 29 November 2009, 09:15

which dealer are you going to?  i tried the one in morden and another in surrey, but they gave me rubbish deals.  wandsworth?

i'm in raynes park.  happy to let you have a further nosy around my car if you like.



Yes Battersea ,wandsworth over the years i have had 3 mk5's gti's from that dealership they have been good to me in terms of support and getting a good deals from them!! But you have to push them hard, which is what I enjoy (banter) still not sure but I have ordered one paid the deposit on Mk6 in silver not to much spec though, can be a waist of money getting loads of options. Although stiil thinking what have I done OMG????? Steve30 
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 29 November 2009, 09:45
Yes im not talking Track times, and nor to Vw quote there standin start runs either in track times.

No disbuting the wheel wheel drive round a track benefit, but if i was following from 40mph and nailed the throttle, it would be see you later R32  :wink:


Specific scenarios dont really equate to faster. A small power track like the TG track is, is probably the best comparison to everyday driving. Both cars have their advantages.. i just find that the R32 can do everything the ED30 can do and more...  :smiley:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 29 November 2009, 10:23
Yes im not talking Track times, and nor to Vw quote there standin start runs either in track times.

No disbuting the wheel wheel drive round a track benefit, but if i was following from 40mph and nailed the throttle, it would be see you later R32  :wink:

So this is the only thing you can come up with that a standard ed30 would beat a R32? Well ive had both and from 40mph i reckon it would be close.
But what about other challanges
                                                0-60 r32 wins
                                                exiting corners r32 wins
                                                top speed r32 wins
                                                round top gear track r32 wins

These are just a few of the top of my head and they are all in dry weather so yo can double that amount by adding wet conditions. So  that makes the r32 faster in my book
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: gizzywizzy on 29 November 2009, 10:52
Steve

I think in terms of a better ride, nicer cabin and of course quieter ride that you've probably done yourself a favour in going for the mk6.  As you said there isn't a marked difference in speed from your edition30 so you may not much if anything different.

Anyway congrats on your order when are you likely to get the car?
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 29 November 2009, 11:01
Steve

I think in terms of a better ride, nicer cabin and of course quieter ride that you've probably done yourself a favour in going for the mk6.  As you said there isn't a marked difference in speed from your edition30 so you may not much if anything different.

Anyway congrats on your order when are you likely to get the car?

looking at gossa's RR results.. if you get one like his you wont notice the difference between that and the ED30 anyway :smiley:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 29 November 2009, 11:12
its only 0.1 sec difference to 62 mph anyway
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 29 November 2009, 11:16
its only 0.1 sec difference to 62 mph anyway

there we go... 0.1 isnt going to make much difference at all anyway. With more power available lower down the revs its probably going to be more usable too.

MK6 GTI FTW :grin:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Jkctr on 29 November 2009, 11:36
its only 0.1 sec difference to 62 mph anyway

An R32 DSG will crack 5.7 to 60. Its been done by several r32oc members.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Hurdy on 29 November 2009, 11:59
Its a common myth that the ED30 is faster than a R32... a remapped one, yes. Std no. :nerd:

Why would VW make another golf quicker than their flagship after all.

They did  :laugh:

They haven't? Even modded vs modded an R32 would win - 500+bhp turbo vs 300bhp remap

ED30 is slower, will be close in a straight but be left behind on the twisty bits. GTI is slower noticeably.

MK6 GTI is slower than the upcoming Golf R (the new flagship)

Sorry, but I have to call BS!!! :rolleyes:

Mine slaughtered an R32 at Spa Francorchamps...several times...in the wet...and I was on R888's. Just ask RedRobin. :smug:

To the OP. You have a good car in the ED30. Keep it for another year or so until the true MKVI shows its face and not the MKV.5 :wink:

The MKV.5 is a good car, but it wasn't enough to tempt me out of mine for just a few silvery bits of trim and a faux LSD.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Hurdy on 29 November 2009, 12:07
its only 0.1 sec difference to 62 mph anyway

An R32 DSG will crack 5.7 to 60. Its been done by several r32oc members.

My ED30 is at 5.03 to 60mph and on the stock turbo they have been down to 4.6 :cool:

So this is the only thing you can come up with that a standard ed30 would beat a R32? Well ive had both and from 40mph i reckon it would be close.
But what about other challanges
                                                0-60 r32 wins
                                                exiting corners r32 wins
                                                top speed r32 wins
                                                round top gear track r32 wins

These are just a few of the top of my head and they are all in dry weather so yo can double that amount by adding wet conditions. So  that makes the r32 faster in my book

Give £500 to each of the owners of the R32 and the ED30 and you would see all those (apart from maybe No2!) swap places. In the wet maybe 2-1 to the ED30 and a draw on the track time. :cool:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 29 November 2009, 12:08
Think this has gone into a modded car frenzy.. the OP has ordered a MK6 GTI. As we know they are better than the MK5 Gti and seem to be putting out good figures also. the only real question was if he should keep the ed30 or change... and the decision has been made.

You will like whatever you go for as there is very little in it.

As for your car hurdy, it would probably beat almost all golfs* out there so its not really fair :tongue:

*excluding my old superduperR32 :grin:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Hurdy on 29 November 2009, 12:13
I agree (partially) with you.

The new GTI has moved the game on from the MKV in terms of quality (in some areas anyway!) and I cannot fault anyone from moving to one from any MKV variant. :cool:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Jkctr on 29 November 2009, 12:33
its only 0.1 sec difference to 62 mph anyway

An R32 DSG will crack 5.7 to 60. Its been done by several r32oc members.

My ED30 is at 5.03 to 60mph and on the stock turbo they have been down to 4.6 :cool:

and yours is standard isnt it hurdy  :rolleyes:

This isnt a modded vs standard. He isnt in to modding, so we are talking about the better standard golf.

If you want to mod buy an ed30, if you want the best standard golf get an R32.


Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 29 November 2009, 13:27
its only 0.1 sec difference to 62 mph anyway

An R32 DSG will crack 5.7 to 60. Its been done by several r32oc members.

My ED30 is at 5.03 to 60mph and on the stock turbo they have been down to 4.6 :cool:

So this is the only thing you can come up with that a standard ed30 would beat a R32? Well ive had both and from 40mph i reckon it would be close.
But what about other challanges
                                                0-60 r32 wins
                                                exiting corners r32 wins
                                                top speed r32 wins
                                                round top gear track r32 wins

These are just a few of the top of my head and they are all in dry weather so yo can double that amount by adding wet conditions. So  that makes the r32 faster in my book

Give £500 to each of the owners of the R32 and the ED30 and you would see all those (apart from maybe No2!) swap places. In the wet maybe 2-1 to the ED30 and a draw on the track time. :cool:

how about giving them £20k each or £0 each, was talking standard. p.s if your ed30 beat a r32 turbo in the wet the r32 turbo must of been running $hit.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Jkctr on 29 November 2009, 13:33
I might be wrong but hurdy is around 4-500bhp (or something high) so he would probably give a turbo r32 a run for its money with power to weight.


Hurdy's best 1/4 is 13.151

Relatively low powered supercharged 32's are running 13.5's so sounds about right.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 29 November 2009, 13:39
fwd with 500hp in the rain, id beat him in my van to 30mph  :smiley:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Jkctr on 29 November 2009, 13:48
lol think this thread is getting a bit silly now.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 29 November 2009, 13:48
I might be wrong but hurdy is around 4-500bhp (or something high) so he would probably give a turbo r32 a run for its money with power to weight.


Hurdy's best 1/4 is 13.151

Relatively low powered supercharged 32's are running 13.5's so sounds about right.
supercharged R's run about 350 bhp, Turbo's anything from 400hp to 650hp for road use, 850hp + for maximum but i can not imagine very good for everyday use
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Jkctr on 29 November 2009, 13:52
Fastest one in europe blows gearboxes all the time lol

Thinks its this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-nZyCsujFA
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 29 November 2009, 14:01
that one is a bag of $hit JBS do one 650 bhp usable aswell. A guy on R32oc has one in tthis country
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 29 November 2009, 14:17
Steve

I think in terms of a better ride, nicer cabin and of course quieter ride that you've probably done yourself a favour in going for the mk6.  As you said there isn't a marked difference in speed from your edition30 so you may not much if anything different.

Anyway congrats on your order when are you likely to get the car?
I bloody well hope so??? Can you tell me what the diffireance between the engines as in TFSI and TSI which is the best engine? In my opinion the TFSI feels more solid & planted ???? Cant make my mind up on the coulor silver or black , or the grey?? My other concern is that I will miss the power when overtaking at 50MPH , the current car feels much faster than 230 BHP fells more like 250?? I love all the replys on here fantasic reading brilliant !! :laugh: :drool: :wink:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 29 November 2009, 14:23
Steve30
http://www.my-gti.com/1046/differences-between-the-gti-mark-v-and-mark-vi-engine
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 29 November 2009, 14:31
Which is the best though TFSI Or TSI has there been any problems with the TSI engines? Thanks Snoopy !! steve30 :laugh:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: mac7 on 29 November 2009, 16:57
Which is the best though TFSI Or TSI has there been any problems with the TSI engines? Thanks Snoopy !! steve30 :laugh:

The new engine is clearly better - in terms of fuel efficiency, emissions, power output, torque spread and refinement.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Jkctr on 29 November 2009, 17:01
Which is the best though TFSI Or TSI has there been any problems with the TSI engines? Thanks Snoopy !! steve30 :laugh:

The new engine is clearly better - in terms of fuel efficiency, emissions, power output, torque spread and refinement.

That why the golf r is using it.........
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 29 November 2009, 17:10
Which is the best though TFSI Or TSI has there been any problems with the TSI engines? Thanks Snoopy !! steve30 :laugh:

The new engine is clearly better - in terms of fuel efficiency, emissions, power output, torque spread and refinement.

That why the golf r is using it.........

No the golf R is using the TFSI because it comes straight out of a box and straight into the golf and development cost = £0  :wink:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: mac7 on 29 November 2009, 17:15
No the golf R is using the TFSI because it comes straight out of a box and straight into the golf and development cost = £0  :wink:

Yep. Shame really because I'm always disappointed whe I hear a Mk5 start up - they sound more than a bit harsh and clattery.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 29 November 2009, 19:01
Yes im not talking Track times, and nor to Vw quote there standin start runs either in track times.

No disbuting the wheel wheel drive round a track benefit, but if i was following from 40mph and nailed the throttle, it would be see you later R32  :wink:

So this is the only thing you can come up with that a standard ed30 would beat a R32? Well ive had both and from 40mph i reckon it would be close.
But what about other challanges
                                                0-60 r32 wins
                                                exiting corners r32 wins




Yet to see an R32 beat an Edition30. Wasnt there a video of a standard GTi beating an R32 ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxe3snKiJ6w
or this one where the R finally passes this standard GTi doing way over 120mph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxWvaFIi4Wo&NR=1

Edition 30's K04 has much more punch at top revs, so doesnt loose speed like the K03 Gti does.

Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 29 November 2009, 19:15
i think you may have gti 1/4 mile time mixed up against R32s 0-100mph time cause their is no way a mk5 gti is as fast as a mk5 r32 0- 100mph in standard form. P.s i do love willy waving  :smiley:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 29 November 2009, 19:22
i think you may have gti 1/4 mile time mixed up against R32s 0-100mph time cause their is no way a mk5 gti is as fast as a mk5 r32 0- 100mph in standard form. P.s i do love willy waving  :smiley:
lol carl, so do i!!, but look a the first video, dsg GTi V R32 dsg.

the 2nd video that Manual Gti is ahead again, and not untill they are doing over 120 does the 3.2 haul its ass past.

200 extra kilo's , haldex drive train losses, the more Powerful Ko4 Gti is quicker.

But no disputing the R32's capability around a track. Which in my book isnt everyday driving.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: gizzywizzy on 29 November 2009, 19:23
Why do you keep bringing up R32 times? Steve was asking for opinions on the mk6 GTI over his mk5 edition 30 GTI.  He already knows that it will be slightly slower than the mk5 but not by very much but realises that the ride quality and cabin layout etc is so much better.  So it has to be mk6 GTI all the way.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 29 November 2009, 19:28
^^ indeed, after seeing what the mk6 GTi done on the dyno yesturday,(see surrey RR thread) it comes very close in performance to the  2.0 k04 TFSI in stock

Sorry to the OP going off track.

One thing i will say is, there is a huge performance benefit when selecting DSG.

On the road, it helps getting the power down smoothly, especially with alot of greasy roads about lately
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Jkctr on 29 November 2009, 19:46
lol youtube videos as evidence  :laugh:

Of course we know all the vairables and drivers of both cars, passengers, fuel, tyre pressures and how many runs they did, were they both in S, was the GTI on more miles, was it even the owners of the cars in there etc etc  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 29 November 2009, 19:58
indeed Jules, not worth going more into.

 

Back on topic :smiley:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 29 November 2009, 22:47
1st video- soon as the R changes out of 1st gear the chap is holding back you can tell by the sound of the R, as jules said youtube as evidence haha. All i know ive had both and id put my house on it a standard R would beat a standard gti 0-100mph. Sorry to go on  :smiley:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 29 November 2009, 23:18
waste of time debating it phil if you are going to back track and delete your original post of claiming a standard gti was quicker than a r32  0-100mph.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 29 November 2009, 23:29
1st video- soon as the R changes out of 1st gear the chap is holding back you can tell by the sound of the R, as jules said youtube as evidence haha. All i know ive had both and id put my house on it a standard R would beat a standard gti 0-100mph. Sorry to go on  :smiley:

I have had both and i agree :smiley:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 30 November 2009, 09:13
waste of time debating it phil if you are going to back track and delete your original post of claiming a standard gti was quicker than a r32  0-100mph.

Erh i havent, the topic was about Edition30.  Edition30 is quicker then the standard Gti.

I quoted the std car because its the same to 100mph according to specs.

My reply was when you said the fastest Golf was the R, i replyied they have, and thats the edition30.

Videos were just to show you how a standard car faired.


If you want to look and see how any ed30's got on against R's ., then be my guest

I have not modded my 1st post!! reply 22! or ANY for that matter.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: percymon on 30 November 2009, 12:00
Pistonheads Classifieds have 08 plate ED30s at £19-£20k even at respected dealers (e.g. Meridien), s the dealers trade in looks very good.   However you'd better check on lead times and when that p/ex applies too - chances are you're looking at 6 months wait.

The ED30 will always hold its value betetr than a std Mk5 GTI, but not by that much.

Whether you think £6k to change is worth it (or more dependent upon spec) only you can answer but your Mk6 will be worth £22k trade the moment you drive it away.

Personally i'd keep the ED30 and spend £400 getting it sound proofed on the door skins and wheel arch/boot area to ease the M-way din.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 30 November 2009, 12:28
I do think that you cant beat having a brand new car , runing it in , its yours no one has touched it, brilliant !! Its the the wait not sure if I can wait 3 months ??? I will proberly lose the will to live around it??? Thanks Guys excellent reading on here!!  :wink:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: keelaw on 30 November 2009, 13:30
I do think that you cant beat having a brand new car , runing it in , its yours no one has touched it, brilliant !! Its the the wait not sure if I can wait 3 months ??? I will proberly lose the will to live around it??? Thanks Guys excellent reading on here!!  :wink:


you'll still have your ED30 over those 3 mths tho right?
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: percymon on 30 November 2009, 13:37
I do think that you cant beat having a brand new car , runing it in , its yours no one has touched it, brilliant !! Its the the wait not sure if I can wait 3 months ??? I will proberly lose the will to live around it??? Thanks Guys excellent reading on here!!  :wink:

3 months  :laugh: ???  Are you a major shareholder in VW ??
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 30 November 2009, 13:39
Yes indeed i will, but I want it now ha ha ha . How long will I have to wait for this MK6 the dealer tells me march latest?? Steve30 :laugh:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: keelaw on 30 November 2009, 13:40
Yes indeed i will, but I want it now ha ha ha . How long will I have to wait for this MK6 the dealer tells me march latest?? Steve30 :laugh:


Mar 2010 or 2011?!    :grin:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 30 November 2009, 13:42
hahahah , no no no, I forgot to had decemeber which makes it 4 months??? How long have you been waiting? Steve30 :wink:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: keelaw on 30 November 2009, 13:44

i ordered in late July and it arrived Sep 11 (easy date to remember!) - so about 2 mths
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: avalon on 30 November 2009, 13:54
2011  :wink:


Ava
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: smiffy555 on 30 November 2009, 16:04

They did the 25th Aniversary Mk4, and the Ed30 Mk5.....so is it safe to assume that we'll be seeing an Edition35 soon?  :drool:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: jv on 30 November 2009, 16:12
Ed35 2012 I guess, plenty of time to come up with a plan on how to supply the numbered badges! :grin:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: percymon on 30 November 2009, 16:16
hahahah , no no no, I forgot to had decemeber which makes it 4 months??? How long have you been waiting? Steve30 :wink:
at least two people who ordered in august have now cancelled their orders, the rest either now have their cars or will be built hopefully between wk01 and wk04!

If you dealer is that confident let him put it in the delivery date box of the order form!!
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 30 November 2009, 16:20
waste of time debating it phil if you are going to back track and delete your original post of claiming a standard gti was quicker than a r32  0-100mph.

Erh i havent, the topic was about Edition30.  Edition30 is quicker then the standard Gti.

I quoted the std car because its the same to 100mph according to specs.

My reply was when you said the fastest Golf was the R, i replyied they have, and thats the edition30.

Videos were just to show you how a standard car faired.


If you want to look and see how any ed30's got on against R's ., then be my guest

I have not modded my 1st post!! reply 22! or ANY for that matter.

hmm its says edited at the bottom of your post at 7.16 you claimed times were the same or near enough the same of 0-100  for a standard gti (not ed30) v r32 to which i replied i think you got 1/4 mile and 0-100mph times mixed up
and i know what a ed30 can do ive had one plus 2 mk5 r32s plus 1 mk5 gti and 1 mk6 gti and i am not biased i tell it from experence, i like all of them equally for their own strengths, but allround the R32 is the fastest golf today standard v standard in most situations.thats all i got to say on it :-)
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: smiffy555 on 30 November 2009, 16:22
If it is going to be circa 2012 for an 'Ed35'.....then I'll wait for that to come along!!

I currently have an Ed30 and can't go back to a 'normal' GTI.....that's just wrong and the price of the R is just toooooo much, so an Ed35 would be perfect.  :tongue:

Bring it on VW!!
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 30 November 2009, 17:59
I do think that you cant beat having a brand new car , runing it in , its yours no one has touched it, brilliant !! Its the the wait not sure if I can wait 3 months ??? I will proberly lose the will to live around it??? Thanks Guys excellent reading on here!!  :wink:

3 months  :laugh: ???  Are you a major shareholder in VW ??
You will be luckie PMSL i have been waiting 3 month and still no sign of mine, latest news seems to be for around march if im luckie :grin:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Steve30 on 30 November 2009, 18:00

They did the 25th Aniversary Mk4, and the Ed30 Mk5.....so is it safe to assume that we'll be seeing an Edition35 soon?  :drool:

Its safe to say that I will also be ordering one those too  :grin: :wink: :tongue:very much so, if they bring one out??
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Hurdy on 02 December 2009, 00:30
its only 0.1 sec difference to 62 mph anyway

An R32 DSG will crack 5.7 to 60. Its been done by several r32oc members.

My ED30 is at 5.03 to 60mph and on the stock turbo they have been down to 4.6 :cool:

So this is the only thing you can come up with that a standard ed30 would beat a R32? Well ive had both and from 40mph i reckon it would be close.
But what about other challanges
                                                0-60 r32 wins
                                                exiting corners r32 wins
                                                top speed r32 wins
                                                round top gear track r32 wins

These are just a few of the top of my head and they are all in dry weather so yo can double that amount by adding wet conditions. So  that makes the r32 faster in my book

Give £500 to each of the owners of the R32 and the ED30 and you would see all those (apart from maybe No2!) swap places. In the wet maybe 2-1 to the ED30 and a draw on the track time. :cool:

how about giving them £20k each or £0 each, was talking standard. p.s if your ed30 beat a r32 turbo in the wet the r32 turbo must of been running $hit.

When was an R32 Turbo mentioned?
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 02 December 2009, 17:13
It hasnt John  :rolleyes:

  :wink:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 02 December 2009, 23:23
its only 0.1 sec difference to 62 mph anyway

An R32 DSG will crack 5.7 to 60. Its been done by several r32oc members.

My ED30 is at 5.03 to 60mph and on the stock turbo they have been down to 4.6 :cool:

So this is the only thing you can come up with that a standard ed30 would beat a R32? Well ive had both and from 40mph i reckon it would be close.
But what about other challanges
                                                0-60 r32 wins
                                                exiting corners r32 wins
                                                top speed r32 wins
                                                round top gear track r32 wins

These are just a few of the top of my head and they are all in dry weather so yo can double that amount by adding wet conditions. So  that makes the r32 faster in my book

Give £500 to each of the owners of the R32 and the ED30 and you would see all those (apart from maybe No2!) swap places. In the wet maybe 2-1 to the ED30 and a draw on the track time. :cool:

how about giving them £20k each or £0 each, was talking standard. p.s if your ed30 beat a r32 turbo in the wet the r32 turbo must of been running $hit.

When was an R32 Turbo mentioned?

i thought you were saying you slaughtered one at spa following jules post about r32turbo, i misread then, my mistake

Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 02 December 2009, 23:24
It hasnt John  :rolleyes:

  :wink:


fool stop trolling
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 03 December 2009, 18:14
It hasnt John  :rolleyes:

  :wink:


fool stop trolling

Sorry carl my your mistake :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: carl1 on 03 December 2009, 19:44
It hasnt John  :rolleyes:

  :wink:


fool stop trolling

Sorry carl my your mistake :rolleyes:
ill correct it then, i forget about silent f's     Phool mcavity stop trolling
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Saint Steve on 03 December 2009, 22:42
touchee :laugh:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: HA54SYM` on 04 December 2009, 08:00

They did the 25th Aniversary Mk4, and the Ed30 Mk5.....so is it safe to assume that we'll be seeing an Edition35 soon?  :drool:

Its safe to say that I will also be ordering one those too  :grin: :wink: :tongue:very much so, if they bring one out??

By my maths, that would mean they would be out in 2012?

Dave
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: p3eps on 04 December 2009, 15:02
By my maths, that would mean they would be out in 2012?

Dave


By my maths, I would say you are correct - but surely that would make the ED35 a MK7?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: HA54SYM` on 06 December 2009, 09:17
True, we may not get one then.

Do we really think the mk7 will be out in 2010?

Dave
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 06 December 2009, 11:30
True, we may not get one then.

Do we really think the mk7 will be out in 2010?

Dave

I very much doubt it will be out in 2010. My guess would be late 2012... just the basic models to start with. Followed by the GTI in early/mid 2013.
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 06 December 2009, 11:33
About the same time my mk6 will be delivered :grin:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: R32UK on 06 December 2009, 12:17
About the same time my mk6 will be delivered :grin:


 :grin: :grin: the newest old car on the block  :laugh:
Title: Re: Edition30 to Mk6
Post by: rjwojcik on 06 December 2009, 15:17
Knowing my lick, you'll be able to order it round about Aug 2011, be given a BW of 48, then BW 01, then no build week, then BW10, then ...