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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: flc1962 on 26 November 2009, 09:19

Title: Bluefin update
Post by: flc1962 on 26 November 2009, 09:19
A blow by blow install.
1 Unpacked and installed the software.
2. Went down to the car put it in (oooh er). A couple of switch on/off data loaded.
3. Back to the pc uploaded the file to super chips
4.Got an email back within 40 mins asking for more data as I have the 2010 vw calibration. Waiting
5.Called tech support and they advised still looking at it they still don't know (fitted mud guards whilst waiting)
6. Got a text at 1350 and email saying its ready...
7. Had a bite to eat and D/L the Map 1453 ready to apply the map... wish me luck.
8. Applied the map approx 6 mins to load into the car, set off engine management light oh sh*te called the boffins. Was asked to remove decided to restart the motor engine light gone called the boffin who apologized DOH! should have done this helps clear the ECU. All ok

So the worst was waiting for super chips to give me the map. The install really took 40 mins with loads of coffee.
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: percymon on 26 November 2009, 09:46
Lets hope Superchips understand the 2010 calibration.

Nice to hear its as easy as they claim so far  :smiley:
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: VWKev on 26 November 2009, 10:16
Looking forward to seeing how this turns out.

Whats the Bluefin warranty like compared to VW ?
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: flc1962 on 26 November 2009, 12:10
little update above
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: flc1962 on 26 November 2009, 15:42
Been out with a mate for a quick run, you can notice the difference in 2,3,4,5 easier for him to say as he gets pushed back in the seat.
Did 2 0-60 runs first
1 8.5 seconds
2 7.7 seconds
It felt quick and smooth. Will test out the MPG and the overtaking which is what I want it for over the next week.
Niggles though did I do the right thing ? 7 days to test it out.

Any Questions ?

FLC
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: HA54SYM` on 26 November 2009, 16:46
I'm not with you? You mean you got it on trial for 7 days?

Dave
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Jkctr on 26 November 2009, 16:48
Only 7.7? Thats slower than a standard GTI  :undecided:

What was the car before the map? (i know you have a diesel by the way)
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Saint Steve on 26 November 2009, 16:51
Only 7.7? Thats slower than a standard GTI  :undecided:

What was the car before the map? (i know you have a diesel by the way)

He has a 140 diesel. not a GTi  :nerd:
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Jkctr on 26 November 2009, 17:02
Only 7.7? Thats slower than a standard GTI  :undecided:

What was the car before the map? (i know you have a diesel by the way)

He has a 140 diesel. not a GTi  :nerd:

Thats my point, i thought these remapped diesels were the quickest things going  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: flc1962 on 26 November 2009, 17:15
I'm not with you? You mean you got it on trial for 7 days?
You get 7 days to make your mind up, keep or ditch
Dave
Only 7.7? Thats slower than a standard GTI  :undecided:

What was the car before the map? (i know you have a diesel by the way)

He has a 140 diesel. not a GTi  :nerd:

Thats my point, i thought these remapped diesels were the quickest things going  :rolleyes:
Standard 140 is just over 9 seconds, I'm not a 0-60 man so my gear changes are slow the timer thinks I could drop another .5 with a better gear change, was thinking of getting the felt foot and arm upgraded  so I would be like Steve Austin  :tongue:

I'll post more after a motorway run
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Exonian on 26 November 2009, 17:19
It normally takes a few days of mixed driving to get the ECU to really settle with a re-map. You've done the right thing by doing a few hard acceleration blasts so that the ECU knows you mean business!

The extra torque will be most noticable on the motorway, no more downchanges.  :cool:
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: flc1962 on 26 November 2009, 18:26
Any other things I should do to test this throughly ?
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Exonian on 26 November 2009, 19:04
Once it's all settled in it would be good to see some in gear acceleration tests, then put it back to standard to see what sort of difference there is.

Apart from that, just enjoy it! You can do lots of childish wheelspins in the wet now! FUN!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: flc1962 on 27 November 2009, 17:45
You can notice the mid range grunt on the motorway, it just never seems to be pushed and seems to go from 40-80 in seconds.
Need more play to see if its worth the money.
Monday I'm going to take the map off for a couple of days to see the difference of driving with it on over the weekend.
Stay tuned
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Saint Steve on 27 November 2009, 18:23
give it 10 minutes and you'll wanna pull over and reload the map  :wink:
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: flc1962 on 29 November 2009, 09:57
Took off the map and you can feel the difference in the higher gears which is what I want (so back on) and more ooomph in 3rd 4th 5th and she now even pulls in 6th. Reminds me of the sports button on the Astra CDti giving that little edge to the engine. Its here to stay, now to see how the fuel consumption changes...
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Exonian on 29 November 2009, 10:08
Good to see you're keeping the Bluefin.  :smiley:
A sensible re-map just makes the car complete. Obviously you can push the boat out further but that will just require further upgrades to bring everything back on an even keel.

Shove it back to stock mode once in a while just to remind yourself of how much better the car feels with a re-map. Most people don't use the benefits of the higher revs power that much but the extra torque is of use all the time and helps with improved economy.
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: keelaw on 29 November 2009, 14:44

looking fwd to seeing some RR figures on your car flc  :evil:


Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: topher on 29 November 2009, 14:50
if you guys are only seeing improvements in higher gears, try turning your traction control off.. it will be sucking the power from 1st/2nd as it thinks you're about to wheelspin.. but you have more mechanical grip there than the abs computer knows!
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: keelaw on 29 November 2009, 14:57
if you guys are only seeing improvements in higher gears, try turning your traction control off.. it will be sucking the power from 1st/2nd as it thinks you're about to wheelspin.. but you have more mechanical grip there than the abs computer knows!


i'm running a std car, but i seem to be getting wheelspin reasonably often in 1st/2nd gear.

i'm thinking this is down to a few factors:

1, i have the much maligned dunlops
2, i have DSG and i wonder if the rapid changes equate to "dumping" the clutch more aggressively than if i had a manual
3, road surface quality

Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: topher on 29 November 2009, 15:12
4) crappy weather
5) heavy right foot :grin:

You have to feed the power in, whether it be dsg or manual.. the spooling characteristics of the tiny k03 turbo gives you peak torque very early on.
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Steve30 on 29 November 2009, 15:18
if you guys are only seeing improvements in higher gears, try turning your traction control off.. it will be sucking the power from 1st/2nd as it thinks you're about to wheelspin.. but you have more mechanical grip there than the abs computer knows!


i'm running a std car, but i seem to be getting wheelspin reasonably often in 1st/2nd gear.

i'm thinking this is down to a few factors:

1, i have the much maligned dunlops
2, i have DSG and i wonder if the rapid changes equate to "dumping" the clutch more aggressively than if i had a manual
3, road surface quality
I woudld say its the dunlops thats causing the wheel spin?? Steve30


Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: flc1962 on 29 November 2009, 16:10

looking fwd to seeing some RR figures on your car flc  :evil:

Anyone know of anywhere you could recommend around the Glasgow area ? want to see how much above stock this is.

Ta
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Rolfe on 30 November 2009, 00:06
I get a bit of wheelspin in 1st and 2nd too, and I don't have Dunlops (Bridgestones).  Might be too much right foot with the DSG.

Rolfe.
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: gossa on 30 November 2009, 08:48
even though the golf is primarily designed for fetching the weekly shop,  :evil: it is a performance car and as such you just have to 'feel' where you are at with the power delivery. Too much throttle at too low revs will give spin so just feed the power through and give more gas as you get higher up the rev range and then you shouldn't spin.

Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: keelaw on 30 November 2009, 13:32

driving around last night, the torrential rain has led to some pretty big/ deep puddles on the roads.  happy to report however that the golf was very stable, even on the dunlops, and not a trace of aqua-planing


(or is the helm so isolated now in terms of feel that i didn't notice?!  :laugh:)
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Radek on 30 November 2009, 13:48

driving around last night, the torrential rain has led to some pretty big/ deep puddles on the roads.  happy to report however that the golf was very stable, even on the dunlops, and not a trace of aqua-planing


(or is the helm so isolated now in terms of feel that i didn't notice?!  :laugh:)


Agreed. It's been a month or so since I first drove in heavy rain and it was a pleasant surprise not to slide at all. I have Bridgstones but I think it's the whole car that's great not just tyres.

Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: R32UK on 30 November 2009, 17:21

driving around last night, the torrential rain has led to some pretty big/ deep puddles on the roads.  happy to report however that the golf was very stable, even on the dunlops, and not a trace of aqua-planing


(or is the helm so isolated now in terms of feel that i didn't notice?!  :laugh:)


Suprisingly enough the dunlops do generally perform quite well in testing in the wet...  :nerd:
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: flc1962 on 30 November 2009, 23:30
I rang super chips today and asked them about the flash count, They advised that this feature was added due to other companies offering this a couple of years back.

Still trying to find somewhere to get the rolling road and a day to do it before Christmas to give you the results.

FLC
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: flc1962 on 04 December 2009, 18:16
I'm going to have to wait till after Christmas for the RR due to every second either painting/getting pi**ed or shopping  :sick:.

Its really great for 2ed-4th gear overtaking and pulling away. 5-6 on the M way great as well, for me looks like the right choice.

Happy Bunny just need those graphs to show the power and torque 
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: teemcgee on 06 December 2009, 15:40
Is there are limit to the amount of times you can put the map on/off?
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: teemcgee on 06 December 2009, 15:41
Also forgot to ask, isit likley to effect your VW warranty? Is it detectable by VW or is it simply a case of take the map off if the car needs to go to the stealers?
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Steve30 on 06 December 2009, 16:24
My understanding is that you can take it off , but it show's up on the VAGcom that its had a remap at some point?? I stand to be corrected on this? I would not re-map my car until the warrenty finishes but thats just me. I'm not willing to take the risk , in any case its fast enough 230 bhp good for doing most cars on the road at overtaking!!! Steve Edition30  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Saint Steve on 06 December 2009, 16:37
^^as many times as you like, and it DOESNT  show on the flash counter.

If Vw wanted to look more closely at the ECU then they could tell but its not abvious.
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Steve30 on 06 December 2009, 16:47
This my point really , if VW suspect there is an underlying issue going with the car belive me they will find it?? These guys are not stupid when dealing with warrentys?? Or are they? Steve30 :grin:
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: keelaw on 06 December 2009, 17:28
... I'm not willing to take the risk , in any case its fast enough 230 bhp good for doing most cars on the road at overtaking!!! Steve Edition30  :rolleyes:


230bhp certainly is enough, sadly the regular GTI only has 210bhp!

Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: Steve30 on 06 December 2009, 17:45
Then get it mapped Mr Keelaw!!!  :grin: :laugh: stick a bluefin on it should take it up to 250break ?? Enjoy mate Steve30
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: R32UK on 06 December 2009, 18:02
Then get it mapped Mr Keelaw!!!  :grin: :laugh: stick a bluefin on it should take it up to 250break ?? Enjoy mate Steve30

+1 you will be shocked  :grin:
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: flc1962 on 06 December 2009, 18:15
With no other mods or changes and being 47 not many people would think i would have done anything, I would have had it done by some one the dealer recommended but he went off sick and has not returned. I'm told that the stealer's don't have the equipment or training and would need to get an expert in to check where the details are of the part remap. ?

Not naive  just enjoying the extra power when needed...  :drool:
Title: Re: Bluefin update
Post by: flc1962 on 26 March 2010, 07:46
Here is a little update...

Its now 4 months of running blufin

After 3 months I called them to advise that the fuel consumption was getting worse and not better, at the start I knew this would reduce due to the extra power and and my right foot wanting to use it all the time  :cool:.
So they sent me a new map(same day i enquired), waited a couple of days after installing booted the arS* out of her felt just as quick, so settled down to normal driving again with the odd rash moment and hy what a difference, I know its the oil burner, now on a daily average I'm over 50 mpg on the same run where I was getting about 45 mpg. Don't know what they did but it has sure made a difference.

Sorry still no rolling road all my spare cash is tied up in this years holidays at the moment...

PS no issues with the car at all with this installed..

£400 well spent? don't know if I would do it again, would probably get the better BHP engine to start with