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Title: winter is coming.....
Post by: gossa on 25 November 2009, 22:37
.....pretty soon the gritters will be here, prepare people!!

Today I trolley jacked the red beast up, took wheels off, washed, clayed, washed, dried, polished, waxed, then sealed them. No salt will get me!!!!
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Booski on 25 November 2009, 22:42
.....pretty soon the gritters will be here, prepare people!!

Today I trolley jacked the red beast up, took wheels off, washed, clayed, washed, dried, polished, waxed, then sealed them. No salt will get me!!!!

You have alot of spare time mid-week?
 :wink:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: VWKev on 25 November 2009, 22:43
.....pretty soon the gritters will be here, prepare people!!

Today I trolley jacked the red beast up, took wheels off, washed, clayed, washed, dried, polished, waxed, then sealed them. No salt will get me!!!!

I've got my Karcher at the ready  :smiley:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: JellyCat on 25 November 2009, 23:03
sorry if it's a dumb question, but what's "clayed"?

Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: gossa on 25 November 2009, 23:07
sorry if it's a dumb question, but what's "clayed"?



Clay bar, it removes the hard contaminants that you can't wash off.

Kev, you need a trolley jack to go with all that cleaning kit, you can't do a proper job without taking the wheels off.

As for time off, i pulled a sickie, it's easy when you are the boss!
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: mac7 on 25 November 2009, 23:09
You clayed your wheels? There's dedication... :smiley:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: gossa on 25 November 2009, 23:10
You clayed your wheels? There's dedication... :smiley:

Of course! It's just another painted surface, how else you gonna get em clean? :grin:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: JellyCat on 25 November 2009, 23:22
Cheers gossa, not come accross that before, will look out for that
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: gossa on 25 November 2009, 23:24
Cheers gossa, not come accross that before, will look out for that

check out the detailing section for more info but if you haven't clayed your car before you will be blown away.......
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: gossa on 25 November 2009, 23:26
Keep it really up :grin:

I get get excited cleaning the car, not that excited though! :grin:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: JellyCat on 25 November 2009, 23:30
Cheers gossa, not come accross that before, will look out for that

check out the detailing section for more info but if you haven't clayed your car before you will be blown away.......

Cheers will do. Is it like Tcut? Might try it on the our current Mk5 if the weather is ok this weekend
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Exonian on 26 November 2009, 05:03
I've got a slightly different winter regime, wash car in October, leave it for a bit, wash car again in March.  :smiley:
I'd do it more often but it gets a bit cold outside this time of year and the wife won't let me bring the car in through the patio doors so I can wash it inside in the warm.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: gossa on 26 November 2009, 08:26
Cheers gossa, not come accross that before, will look out for that

check out the detailing section for more info but if you haven't clayed your car before you will be blown away.......

Cheers will do. Is it like Tcut? Might try it on the our current Mk5 if the weather is ok this weekend

No, the polish has a bit of cut to it but the clay just pulls off stuff that a wash can't get off (tar, heavy brake residue, bird poop)
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: James Gould on 26 November 2009, 09:28
that's my regime, Exonian
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: MDSS MK6 on 26 November 2009, 09:32
Cheers gossa, not come accross that before, will look out for that

check out the detailing section for more info but if you haven't clayed your car before you will be blown away.......

Cheers will do. Is it like Tcut? Might try it on the our current Mk5 if the weather is ok this weekend



T-cut is the invention of the 70's devil!! Avoid at all costs.Have a read round the detailing section here, or @detailingworld.............and yes, claying produces some impressive results :cool:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: B3n on 26 November 2009, 10:02
.....pretty soon the gritters will be here, prepare people!!

Today I trolley jacked the red beast up, took wheels off, washed, clayed, washed, dried, polished, waxed, then sealed them. No salt will get me!!!!

I admire your dedication! But is there an easier way to protect our wheels from the dreaded salt?!
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: p3asa on 26 November 2009, 10:05
NO  :laugh:
Once you apply wax to your alloys, you realise how easy it makes cleaning them in the future. The dirt literally just washes away.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: VWKev on 26 November 2009, 10:06
I use Jetseal 109 on my alloys, nothing gets through  :wink:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: VWKev on 26 November 2009, 10:10
.....pretty soon the gritters will be here, prepare people!!

Today I trolley jacked the red beast up, took wheels off, washed, clayed, washed, dried, polished, waxed, then sealed them. No salt will get me!!!!

Might be wrong gossa, but I think you should seal then wax.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: gizzywizzy on 26 November 2009, 10:47
I've got a slightly different winter regime, wash car in October, leave it for a bit, wash car again in March.  :smiley:
I'd do it more often but it gets a bit cold outside this time of year and the wife won't let me bring the car in through the patio doors so I can wash it inside in the warm.
:laugh:lol that sounds just like me!! I know I shoulde be ashamed of myself but s**t happens.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: percymon on 26 November 2009, 12:20
VW,Audi and Porsche used to recommend vaseline in the owners manual - great protection but picked up every bit of dust n crap, not really what you wnat when you come to remove the vaseline in the spring.

Jetseal 109 or Rejex for me, topped off with Swisswax Autobahn
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 26 November 2009, 12:49
.....pretty soon the gritters will be here, prepare people!!

Today I trolley jacked the red beast up, took wheels off, washed, clayed, washed, dried, polished, waxed, then sealed them. No salt will get me!!!!

I admire your dedication! But is there an easier way to protect our wheels from the dreaded salt?!
...........yes mate.Do what i do & wash them regular,even if  it's too cold/icy to do the body work.  :wink: I've done the body work with a good few coats of wax over the past few weeks.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: VWKev on 26 November 2009, 13:05
VW,Audi and Porsche used to recommend vaseline in the owners manual - great protection but picked up every bit of dust n crap, not really what you wnat when you come to remove the vaseline in the spring.

Jetseal 109 or Rejex for me, topped off with Swisswax Autobahn

Why would you use 2 different layers of protection ? Jetseal on its own is more than adequate, what would the wax layer on top do that the Jetseal can't ?
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: maksta on 26 November 2009, 13:33
hi all

i have not cleaned my car to be part x'd for around 2 months haha and will not be doing so either until the date it is traded in for my new gti!

i am a noob when it comes to car cleaning, but with getting a new car, i want to keep on top of things.

having read the detailing sections, i presume the following is adequate:

1) 2 bucket wash method
2) clay - 2ce a year or so
3) wax
4) polish

does the above sound ok, and in that order?!?! i just didnt know what i needed to do when i 1st get it, whether i should wait a while before i do my 1st clean and the rest.

thanks
M :cool:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: MDSS MK6 on 26 November 2009, 13:39
Swap the polish & the wax round & you're there. Add some jetseal 109 after the polish & before the wax & you're cooking with gas :smiley:

Depending how much you want to spend, poorboy's stuff is excellent, what dodo I've tried seems great or Collinate waxes for durable protection (845 is the one I've just tried & it rocks!).
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: p3asa on 26 November 2009, 13:41
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/index.php (http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/index.php) that way ---->   :laugh:
Everyone seems to have their own methods. For instance I snow foam mine at least twice when washing it to try and get as much dirt off as possible before putting the wash mitt to it.
I glaze mine (polish) and then wax to seal it in rather than the way you have suggested.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: MDSS MK6 on 26 November 2009, 13:46
Hehe, I was just going to point him @ www.waxomomo.co.uk & mention the fiver off first order code in the waxomomo thread on the detailing boards :smiley:   But if he wants a snow foam lance, your man there has the edge :wink:

I've ordered from both, next day delivery from both, recomended!
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: p3asa on 26 November 2009, 13:48
Yeah I must say all the traders I have ordered from on detailingworld have been fantastic with their customer service.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: maksta on 26 November 2009, 13:59
haha cheers MDS MK6 - i knew i would end up putting something the wrong way round!!!  :laugh:

i will check out the links, to buy myself all the bits i need in the coming weeks!

just to clarify, i am ok to do the whole cleaning process after a month or so? with it being a new car etc

Thanks  :cool:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: p3asa on 26 November 2009, 14:18
A lot of folk make it the first thing they do as I wouldn't trust the protection the garage have put on.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: MDSS MK6 on 26 November 2009, 15:18
slightly misread your post p3asa, thought you'd posted a link to another online detailing supplier (one who sells snow foam lances), hence my comment :wink:

but thats a fund of info on detailingworld, well worth a bit of time :smiley:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Jkctr on 26 November 2009, 15:21
I wax in the summer and seal in the winter. This is mostly down to the fact the glaze i use after the polish has oils which create an amazinf 'flake pop' but dont allow the sealent (jetseal) to bond properly with the paint. Wax works much better and creates a deeper shine than jetseal anyway so its fine for summer.

Winter is usually a polish, simple glaze to restore the paint and a few layers of jetseal. I try and clean the car 2 or 3 times a week to prevent build up or leave any salt/contaminents on the paint.

I have a guide for anyone who is in need of some help, there will be better ones on detailingworld but its easier to pm for help or post in the thread  :smiley:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=66113.0
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: percymon on 26 November 2009, 16:01
VW,Audi and Porsche used to recommend vaseline in the owners manual - great protection but picked up every bit of dust n crap, not really what you wnat when you come to remove the vaseline in the spring.

Jetseal 109 or Rejex for me, topped off with Swisswax Autobahn

Why would you use 2 different layers of protection ? Jetseal on its own is more than adequate, what would the wax layer on top do that the Jetseal can't ?

Extra protection. I prefer the look of a carnauba wax to that of a polymer, but the added protection of the polymer on the wheel is useful to prevent taking wheels off too regularly. I only use wax on the bodywork
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: VWKev on 26 November 2009, 16:52
VW,Audi and Porsche used to recommend vaseline in the owners manual - great protection but picked up every bit of dust n crap, not really what you wnat when you come to remove the vaseline in the spring.

Jetseal 109 or Rejex for me, topped off with Swisswax Autobahn

Why would you use 2 different layers of protection ? Jetseal on its own is more than adequate, what would the wax layer on top do that the Jetseal can't ?

Extra protection. I prefer the look of a carnauba wax to that of a polymer, but the added protection of the polymer on the wheel is useful to prevent taking wheels off too regularly. I only use wax on the bodywork

So you prefer to protect your wheels better than your paintwork ?  :shocked: Id have done what you do but the other way round.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Jkctr on 26 November 2009, 17:03
Not a fan of wax on wheels, not found one that lasts as long as jetseal or poorboys wheel sealant.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Exonian on 26 November 2009, 17:15
Right, so I need Jetseal? Where's cheapest? TIA  :smiley:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Jkctr on 26 November 2009, 17:49
cleanyourcar.co.uk

Jetseal -

Heres the wheels after two days after driving in rain and braking a fair bit (you can see where i just rubbed my finger and it came off)
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0114.jpg)
The wheels would usually be filthy after two days and i would use a whole bucket with wash mitt, but took about 1 min on each and used hardly any water  :shock:

Before
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0117.jpg)
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0119.jpg)
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0120.jpg)

After (i cleaned the caliper this is just to show the wheel :lol: )
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0121.jpg)
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0122.jpg)

Now the car!
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0123.jpg)
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0124.jpg)
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0126.jpg)

Mugshot   :smiley:
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0127.jpg)

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0129.jpg)



Few more   :laugh:
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0137.jpg)
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/SP_A0138.jpg)
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: VWKev on 26 November 2009, 18:03
No way, look at that lovely baby face you have, I knew you were a bloody girl.  :laugh:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Jkctr on 26 November 2009, 18:07
 :laugh:

me at work  :wink:

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/n515302767_887691_5404.jpg)
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Exonian on 26 November 2009, 18:24
Thanks Jules. Nice Honda.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: p3asa on 26 November 2009, 20:03
Not a fan of wax on wheels, not found one that lasts as long as jetseal or poorboys wheel sealant.

Wheel seal n shine.
I put it on at the beginning of October and it is still going strong. Snowfoam and then a jetwash takes all the dirt off and that's me leaving 2 weeks between washes and braking hard.

Nice work on your car by the way  :wink:
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Jkctr on 26 November 2009, 20:07
Yeah i miss it!

Cleaned it more than i cleaned myself!

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/DSCF1398.jpg)
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: VWKev on 27 November 2009, 01:41
I've seen that a few times now, and that pic is probably the best detailing pic I've ever seen.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Ess_Three on 27 November 2009, 05:19
Not a fan of wax on wheels, not found one that lasts as long as jetseal or poorboys wheel sealant.

Poorboys Wheel Sealant gets my vote.
Just put my winter wheels on, with the summer wheels having 8 months worth of brake dust and grime on the insides (I can't be bothered cleaning the insides normally)...a quick blast with a power washer and they are like new again.
Some tar spots remain....but you can still feel the Wheel Sealant on them.
Highly impressed with it.
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Guy on 27 November 2009, 07:15
VW,Audi and Porsche used to recommend vaseline in the owners manual - great protection but picked up every bit of dust n crap, not really what you wnat when you come to remove the vaseline in the spring.

Jetseal 109 or Rejex for me, topped off with Swisswax Autobahn

Why would you use 2 different layers of protection ? Jetseal on its own is more than adequate, what would the wax layer on top do that the Jetseal can't ?

hey guys... you are aware that there is a detailing section? no? life does exist outside of the mk6 section you know!  :wink:

i use 2 layers of jetseat109 and then 2 layers of wax... wax should always be your LSP (last step product) and it should act as your sacrificial layer
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: MDSS MK6 on 27 November 2009, 08:14
Yep Guy, some of us found it :wink:  No harm spreading the word to these lucky ones that actually got a *new* car to look after thou (although after seeing what u achieved with the polo, my neighbours elderly passat is looking a challenge :wink:)
Title: Re: winter is coming.....
Post by: Sebby on 07 December 2009, 13:30
This reminds me, I must wax my new wheels (well, new Golf's wheels!). Another vote for Poorboys here. :)