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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Exonian on 14 November 2009, 16:42
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Popped over to TSR in Bridgwater for a forum rolling road day on Saturday.
Quite pleased with the results, Revo'd GTI, no other mods came out at 260bhp @ 5500rpm and torque at 299lb ft @ 3750 rpm running Sainsburys super unleaded rather than decent fuel.
Nice smooth graph too.
Can't post up the graph as my scanner is in the attic but I'll see if I can find some photos of the car on the rollers.
The rollers seemed quite accurate for power, for example a 2.9 VR6 came in at 180bhp (190 book) and a mk2 Golf GTI 8v came in at 105bhp (112 book), bearing in mind those cars were quite old I would say the figures were about right. Most of the other cars had modifications so can't really be assesed for accurate figures but were coming out around what was expected.
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Popped over to TSR in Bridgwater for a forum rolling road day on Saturday.
Quite pleased with the results, Revo'd GTI, no other mods came out at 260bhp @ 5500rpm and torque at 299lb ft @ 3750 rpm running Sainsburys super unleaded rather than decent fuel.
Nice smooth graph too.
Can't post up the graph as my scanner is in the attic but I'll see if I can find some photos of the car on the rollers.
The rollers seemed quite accurate for power, for example a 2.9 VR6 came in at 180bhp (190 book) and a mk2 Golf GTI 8v came in at 105bhp (112 book), bearing in mind those cars were quite old I would say the figures were about right. Most of the other cars had modifications so can't really be assesed for accurate figures but were coming out around what was expected.
Sounds good to me :laugh: be rude not to visit the local dealer thats just opened up near me, now iv'e clocked up a few miles
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When they RR'd my car after the Revo remap, it came out with the 275hp figure quoted. I don't understand why you are only getting 260.
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When they RR'd my car after the Revo remap, it came out with the 275hp figure quoted. I don't understand why you are only getting 260.
^:wink:
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When they RR'd my car after the Revo remap, it came out with the 275hp figure quoted. I don't understand why you are only getting 260.
But did you have a before and after rolling road run to see what the actual gains were?
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When they RR'd my car after the Revo remap, it came out with the 275hp figure quoted. I don't understand why you are only getting 260.
But did you have a before and after rolling road run to see what the actual gains were?
Yes, it was 212hp before and 275 after.
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When they RR'd my car after the Revo remap, it came out with the 275hp figure quoted. I don't understand why you are only getting 260.
Places like that adjust the rollers so they road the figures they claim, that way they fool you happy :smiley:
Only rollers I trust are the JKM ones in Portsmouth.
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Places like that adjust the rollers so they road the figures they claim, that way they fool you happy :smiley:
Only rollers I trust are the JKM ones in Portsmouth.
Actually ill think ull find it was prolly because he was using sh!tty sainsburys super unleaded 97 ron, If u look at revo's dyno it clearly shows massive improvements on 99/100ron fuel to that 95/97 ron, Thats where ur missing HP is, Ur map was designed for 99ron fuel not 97.
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Places like that adjust the rollers so they road the figures they claim, that way they fool you happy :smiley:
Only rollers I trust are the JKM ones in Portsmouth.
Actually ill think ull find it was prolly because he was using sh!tty sainsburys super unleaded 97 ron, If u look at revo's dyno it clearly shows massive improvements on 99/100ron fuel to that 95/97 ron, Thats where ur missing HP is, Ur map was designed for 99ron fuel not 97.
isn't the MK6 engine DESIGNED for 95 RON fuel though? Would there be any point in remapping it for 99 RON fuel? :undecided:
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I got the select plus switch so i can run mine on different ron maps (apparently, never used it)!
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Quick clear up before WWIII breaks out over something insignificant.
On the mk6 there are 3 maps available from Revo, a detuned one for low octane fuel, a mid range one for super unleaded and a race type fuel map. These are selected via the Revo switch. The ECU will adapt to the exact quality of fuel used on a given map, so therefore won't produce the full whack on a slightly lower grade fuel than ideal.
On older TFSIs and 1.8Ts you could manually adjust some settings to allow for further mods or better grade fuels over Revos stock 'safe' setting. On the TSI 2.0 the ECU works a little differently so you only get the three choices of basic mapping. Hence the 3 graphs on the Revo website from gossa's car (IIRC).
There are other things to consider too, one being the usual dyno lottery and the other being the size of the fan on the rolling road (heat soak etc).
Peak figures are largely irrelevant in a road car, the nicely shaped graph which is shown on the Revo website is mirrored more or less on the one I got today (albeit slightly lower bhp). It's very drive-able and most importantly to me, very torquey (not Torquay) which aids smooth driving.
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haha Exo, my cars got more power than yours! :grin:
It's all bollox though!!!
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ah cool :smiley:
was interested seeing as the MK5 was designed to run on 98 RON so its interesting to see what the tuners are doing with the latest engines :nerd:
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haha Exo, my cars got more power than yours! :grin:
Story of my life!!!
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Revo reckoned my car was like 225 standard which sounds a bit suspect if you ask me but everything seems to trust Revo.
Did you get the select plus switch Exo? Have you ever used it? I was planning on setting back to 'standard' for the misses to drive it but it's so smooth and progressive she didn't even really notice the change.
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Yes, I got the select plus. I've not used it either as it's so smooth and progressive in normal driving. It doesn't seem to kick in until the pedal is pressed past the initial bit of travel of the accelerator pedal round town.
Besides I like to be childish sometimes and do ickle wheelspins in the wet!!! :laugh:
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wheelspins? in third I hope...... :grin:
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(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w317/ChrisUK76/Car%20Pics/DSC_0031-3.jpg)
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sweet! ED30 wheels?
Switch them yellow things off the front will ya? :grin:
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Similar, BBS VZ 033s wider, different colour and better offset than Pescaras.
I must get round to changing the bulbs......
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I must get round to changing the bulbs......
You'll be lucky :grin:
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Popped over to TSR in Bridgwater for a forum rolling road day on Saturday.
Quite pleased with the results, Revo'd GTI, no other mods came out at 260bhp @ 5500rpm and torque at 299lb ft @ 3750 rpm running Sainsburys super unleaded rather than decent fuel.
Nice smooth graph too.
Can't post up the graph as my scanner is in the attic but I'll see if I can find some photos of the car on the rollers.
The rollers seemed quite accurate for power, for example a 2.9 VR6 came in at 180bhp (190 book) and a mk2 Golf GTI 8v came in at 105bhp (112 book), bearing in mind those cars were quite old I would say the figures were about right. Most of the other cars had modifications so can't really be assesed for accurate figures but were coming out around what was expected.
Hey Exonian, just wanted to ask, have you got a manual gearbox or a DSG?
Infact has anyone on here got a rempap with a dsg box and if so is it still smooth or is it jerky? Thinking of getting a remap myself but not sure if its wise with a DSG box.
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Similar, BBS VZ 033s wider, different colour and better offset than Pescaras.
I must get round to changing the bulbs......
Did you get them from pw-motorsport? Any more pics? Me likes...
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Infact has anyone on here got a rempap with a dsg box and if so is it still smooth or is it jerky? Thinking of getting a remap myself but not sure if its wise with a DSG box.
I seem to remember Mr Frog coming over to get his remapped and I'm sure he has DSG.
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Revo reckoned my car was like 225 standard which sounds a bit suspect if you ask me but everything seems to trust Revo.
Not everybody. :wink:
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Revo reckoned my car was like 225 standard which sounds a bit suspect if you ask me but everything seems to trust Revo.
Not everybody. :wink:
oh, I meant 'everyone' seems to trust them but agree snoops, 225 standard sounds a bit strong. Whatever the numbers, the remap makes it into a completely different car.
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Quick reply to a couple of questions, mines a manual. Would have bought a DSG quite happily too but got a good deal on the car I've got.
The BBSs were bought off a forum member on another forum. They were brand new and did 12 months service on my mk5. They still looked brand new when I shoved them on my mk6. I now have a set of Monza IIs I picked up fairly cheaply that I want to powdercoat black for winter use (when I get round to it eventually), as the BBSs are a bit of a pig to clean in winter. PW do the 033s for a very good price, especially for a set with tyres.
I've got a few pictures somewhere on other forums and some more camera phone ones that aren't very good, I'll dig 'em out.
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Infact has anyone on here got a rempap with a dsg box and if so is it still smooth or is it jerky? Thinking of getting a remap myself but not sure if its wise with a DSG box.
I seem to remember Mr Frog coming over to get his remapped and I'm sure he has DSG.
Yep, Revo'd my DSG GTI in September. The gearbox can handle the extra power no problem and it's no more or less jerky than standard, i.e. silky smooth except when it hesitates between 2nd & 3rd on a roundabout approach, or around town :angry: Also be advised that Sport mode is almost redundant with a remap, I very rarely use it now.
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''zero nine'' Golf GTI 5.5, with Revo enabled thrust But not as much as Gossa & Frog!!!
Take it back for a refund, lol :smiley:
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I'll run with the dyno lottery thing! Quite a few cars there ran under what was expected and there's been a few questions asked about the transmission loss figure from a very powerful Leon Cupra mk2 there.
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Revo reckoned my car was like 225 standard which sounds a bit suspect if you ask me but everything seems to trust Revo.
Not everybody. :wink:
oh, I meant 'everyone' seems to trust them but agree snoops, 225 standard sounds a bit strong. Whatever the numbers, the remap makes it into a completely different car.
As i said not everyone trusts them :wink:
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Has there been any performance figures (in gear acceleration, 0-60 etc) logged for a Revo'd Mk6 by a magazine or anyone else? I'd be interested to see how the remapped car compares with standard - and the R.