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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: James Gould on 08 November 2009, 21:21
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Is DSG like 'the Emperor's New Clothes'? No disrespect intended but a lot of you guys are saying you love driving but have chosen DSG - you say it's great and that you love it but I can't understand how it can be as involving as driving a manual with a clutch - I do agree that the technology is clever and I do feel 'techno stubborn' thinking like I do but if something is being removed then, by definition, it can't be as good - have any of you who love driving chosen the DSG and regretted it? Does it make sense that I can get my head around the technology in Astons, Porsches and Ferraris but not in a 'hot hatch' - isn't the point of 'hot hatch' to have fun and involvement? Maybe if I'd done the manual hot hatch thing before, I'd not feel this way but....the way I feel, does anyone think I could/would be happy if I were to choose the DSG?
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Get a manual.
Read it and buy the DSG.
It's a no brainer
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I have always had a manual inc 2 type R's which have amongst the best manual box on any car, This time i went for the DSG as i fancied a change. Last weekend i went for a drive for the sake of it and spent about 90 mins driving through the Brecon Beacons - this is the first time i have really hammered the car and all i can say is in manual mode when you are attacking the twisties the DSG is truely amazing. I firmly believe now that it is just as much fun as a manual and even more versatile, i know the purists will never get it and fair eneough but all i can say to anyone who is undecided is grab a Demo with DSG, head to the twisties and give it some beans! Let me know what you think!!!!
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Clever...
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if you want ultimate fun and driving involvement, i think you should get a manual
if you want the fastest gear change, relaxation, 90% of the fun, something for the wife who prefers manual, a cool gadget, no worries about missing gear changes or getting lost with 6 gears, then go for DSG
for the driving experience of a hot hatch, you should be driving a manual. for something closer to a fast exec sports hatch, then DSG is great.
if I am 100% honest I do have a slight regret about having DSG when around town as it does have the odd "moment" (well documented elsewhere). but i am happy that the benefits it brings just about outweighs the compromises
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In the UK the majority of people drive a manual car, with only 18% being automatic. So the majority of people when specing their cars have never really driven an automatic/DSG car over a sustained period of time. So when test driving a car, although you may like the DSG you still have this niggling thought in the back of your mind of should I or shouldn’t I? (Taking into account the extra money as well of course.)
Having driven a lot of automatics over the years (All my fathers cars were autos) and regular use of all sorts of hire cars. I did not have any doubts on picking the DSG box, as for me it is the best of both worlds and suits our personal circumstances.If you like a manual, fine stick with it.
I made the decision on the DSG and so far love it.
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Thanks for taking the time to post that - maybe I should test drive the cars more - only had 15 minutes in each and only on normal town roads and dual carriageway - I don't drive on country roads etc but maybe if I do get the DSG I'll go for drives just for the heck of it
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James,
Test drive, test drive, test drive. Try and get the car for a longer period of time and vary it over town, motorway and country roads. Most importantly pick what suits and fells the best for you.
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I don't drive on country roads etc but maybe if I do get the DSG I'll go for drives just for the heck of it
if you had a manual, you should also go for drives for the heck of it! :grin:
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If you get a DSG test drive, make sure you get it for a few hours.
I always hammer the car on my test drive - because thats generally what you want to test on a performance car!
I later went back and got it for 3 hours, so I could sit in traffic, drive through town, and general normal driving to see how it was.
My previous 7 cars have been manual - so this time I'm trying DSG!
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Try to go for a test drive on the type of roads you normally drive on. If you commute to work every day and that is your main driving, then try to get a test drive at the same time as you would commute or similar.
As you are not sure what to get then I'd recommend you go for the safe option and get a manual. Both manual and DSG cars are fab and I'd doubt you'd regret getting one over the other. I've certainly never regretted getting a DSG. As I am a gadget freak I just wanted some new gizmo to play with.
If you want to drive a car as is without any aids, then look for a car with no power steering, ESP, traction control ABS etc. :grin: That would be a purists car but I don't think you'd be able to get one.
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^ironic to say but a Golf GTI MK1 would do the job
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Manuals are now reserved for poor people with poor little cars like Kias and Protons.
The world has moved on, only grannies drive manuals these days.
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dsg is better than a std auto. as thats what it replaces.
no one will blame you for getting dsg as alot of it depends on your use of the car. I fortunately dont have to sit in much traffic so went for the manual. Did then consider dsg for the mk6 but after spending a few weeks with dsg i couldnt live with its inconsistency. etto
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Thanks - I don't sit in traffic much - kids to school and short 'traffic-less' to and from journeys to work - if drive during work hours, no traffic - dual carriageway or suburban driving - that kind of driving should push me towards manual and, I guess, also away from ACC. I enjoy driving but wouldn't just go out for a drive on country roads for the thrill of it.
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It will be a DSG for me, as having had one for a few days I really cant see the point in changing gear manually when the DSG is so good.
90% of the time it was in D, and that was including some fastish rural A and B road driving. I dare say it would fall short of absolute driver involvement at anything more than 8/10's, but how often do we get to drive like that.
I am lucky enough to have a Mk2 16V when I need to get my kicks, but for the daily slog, a DSG will do me just fine.
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thnx but I don't have a daily slog so you and I have different driving experiences...thanks, anyway
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james - i suggest you get a manual, 5 door, no ACC, with RCD 510 but without the Dynaudio. Add Parking sensors front and back since these add value and also the camera as it is genuinely useful - both will help you sell on later down the line. Get carbon grey since its less common than black, looks mean and doesn't appear dirty too quickly. 18 inch shadows are a must as well for feel good factor. bluetooth is essential for safety: VW kit if you have a nokia rsap phone, fiscon if you haven't. stick with cloth as it is nostalgic and avoids expensive leather the saving from which means you can get the xenons!
i love spending other people's money. :cool:
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Great help, Keelaw - thnx!
Manual - makes sense
RCD 510 - for sure but why not Dynaudio - I've read that for the relatively small amount of money, it is worth it - makes quite a difference
Parking sensors - for sure - camera pointless for me
carbon grey - yes!
18'' Monza Shadows - for sure
Blue tooth - you say VW kit if Nokia rsap phone - fiscon if something else - what is fiscon? I've got an iphone.
almost £400 for the blue tooth/phone prep - cheaper equipment from Carfone Warehouse??
Cloth - I'm pretty well decided on that - I think the kids, their school/sports bags etc may well scratch/rip the leather - I hardly ever clean my car so the idea of conditioning and treating the leather...it's not me
Xenons - I don't understand what the big deal is with Xenons -
Sat Nav is ridiculously expensive - I believe I can get it on the iphone for 50 quid.
I'll have to get the winter pack - the family (not me) loves heated seats.
Thanks, again
J
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By the way, Keelaw, 5-door - it's certainly more practical for me but don't you think the 3-door looks better - have you got the seat belt warning system and rear side air bags (only available in the 5-door)?
J
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By the way, Keelaw, 5-door - it's certainly more practical for me but don't you think the 3-door looks better -
J
I'll get shot down in flames for this, but why would you buy a 3 door over a Scirroco?
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you'll have to leave the country now....seriously, the Golf has the 5 seats I need - I also like the look of the Golf - the Scirocco looks great but the Golf appeals to me more - the 'idea' of the Golf Gti is what attracts me, too....now, go and hide....
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Just before I go, I will say that the Golf has the egde on practicality with small kids.
Our 4 and 5 year olds were sat in the back of a Scirocco, and due to the low seats and rising waistline, they couldn't see out. Also the seat bases are too long for them to sit without their legs sticking straight out, which meant the front seats couldn't be pushed back far enough.
Kids aside, I'd still have the Rocco,
Bye bye.
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The 'Rocco' is a great looking car - but it's the Golf Gti for me for a few reasons - thanks, anyway
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This is such a senseless and provocative statement, why don't you disappear into the Cumbrian countryside and keep your biased opinions to yourself. :angry:
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Blue tooth - you say VW kit if Nokia rsap phone - fiscon if something else - what is fiscon? I've got an iphone.
almost £400 for the blue tooth/phone prep - cheaper equipment from Carfone Warehouse??
Most of the dealers do a £200-ish, VW approved Bluetooth touchscreen that sits on the dash, integrates with the Stereo etc.
Not as good as the Fiscon (fiscon.co.uk for details) and looks a bit sub-premium but works with pretty much any phone, less hassle etc. ... have it on mine!
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Thnx - I'd never head of Fiscon before getting onto the 'Forum' - is it good with an iphone? cost?
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Thnx - I'd never head of Fiscon before getting onto the 'Forum' - is it good with an iphone? cost?
http://www.fiscon.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-v-vi/fiscon-vw-skoda-basic-plus.html (http://www.fiscon.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-v-vi/fiscon-vw-skoda-basic-plus.html)
£350-ish, some dealers will fit it (mine wouldn't) so either DIY or possibly extra/travel to fit...not seen one, was going off Forum opinion when looking :laugh:
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thanks
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Is it right that when driving the DSG in auto, it moves up to 6th too quickly and feels flat compared to the feeling in a manual? I also read that the DSG in Sport mode holds on to the lower gears too long - over revs - if that's the case, it would be annoying.
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Is it right that when driving the DSG in auto, it moves up to 6th too quickly and feels flat compared to the feeling in a manual? I also read that the DSG in Sport mode holds on to the lower gears too long - over revs - if that's the case, it would be annoying.
I would say that its all down to throttle control. I am at present running in the engine and at no time would I say that it feels flat in normal D mode. In sports mode I would say, that it does not hold the gears too long, as again it's how you use the accelerator pedal.
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I'll have to test drive it again - I just don't get it - surely the auto mode can't choose the gears as much to the liking of the driver as the driver can do on his/her own in a manual car?? I know the DSG driver can flip the 'stick' and/or flap the paddles but nothing is as 'natural' as pressing on the clutch and changing gear...
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James, I have no problem holding the gear for as long as I like in manual mode on the DSG.
To be honest mate, if you are not sure of the DSG box, I would say stick with a manual.
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Will go for manual if can't decide after another test drive in DSG later this week - thnx
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Carbon Grey? :cry:
You have no soul.
From what you say, you'd probably be better with the manual rather than the DSG. Personally, I think the DSG is the coolest thing since the iPhone though.
Rolfe.
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and I do love my iphone....
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Carbon Grey? :cry:
You have no soul.
From what you say, you'd probably be better with the manual rather than the DSG. Personally, I think the DSG is the coolest thing since the iPhone though.
Rolfe.
It's under briar patch.
You minx.
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By the way, Keelaw, 5-door - it's certainly more practical for me but don't you think the 3-door looks better - have you got the seat belt warning system and rear side air bags (only available in the 5-door)?
J
erm... dunno! lol :laugh:
only the front passenger rear seatbelt warning alarm goes, so potentially not?
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Is it right that when driving the DSG in auto, it moves up to 6th too quickly and feels flat compared to the feeling in a manual? I also read that the DSG in Sport mode holds on to the lower gears too long - over revs - if that's the case, it would be annoying.
I would say that its all down to throttle control. I am at present running in the engine and at no time would I say that it feels flat in normal D mode. In sports mode I would say, that it does not hold the gears too long, as again it's how you use the accelerator pedal.
i agree that it can feel flat in D mode sometimes due to being in a higher gear than perhaps i would ordinarily have it. trade off is that it will be quieter and potentially more economical.
S mode does hold the gears pretty much until it red lines, or you stop accelerating for a few secs. if you fully pressing on, then it isn't ideal.
manual mode is good though. you're in control and it changes very smoothly. it will pop down to 1st gear when near stopping, having been used to 2nd gear starts in my bm's auto, it is a little strange.
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Keelaw - it doesn't sound like it's great for you - you spend £25K-plus and use words like 'trade off' - I only test drove the DSG and manual for a short time (another tt in the DSG later this week) but I do remember thinking that the S mode was ridiculous - over revved! - Yes, manual mode gets round the auto shortfalls but is knocking the 'lever' up and down or flapping the paddles practical on an on-going basis or can you really only do it from time to time?....and, when you're in manual, can you do what you want or does the car 'take over' if she doesn't like what you're doing?
Is there anyone out there who regrets going for the DSG?
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and manual for a short time (another tt in the DSG later this week) but I do remember thinking that the S mode was ridiculous - over revved! - Yes, manual mode gets round the auto shortfalls but is knocking the 'lever' up and down or flapping the paddles practical on an on-going basis or can you really only do it from time to time?....and, when you're in manual, can you do what you want or does the car 'take over' if she doesn't like what you're doing?
James, with all due respect, you're a nightmare! :smiley: You seem to want DSG/Automatic but not unless it's perfect (which it isn't but it's pretty damn good!). On top of all that you think over-revving a GTi is a bad thing (even my GTD sounds awesome at those revs) :grin: !
Just drive the car and make a decision - don't try to delegate to the forum sub committee! :smiley:
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Likewise, with all due respect, I'm not sure that that's entirely fair - I am agonising about the choice between DSG and manual but so so so many people on the forum are agonising about this and that option - that's why I came to the forum, to share my agonising with other people who agonise similarly about other things - all I was doing in my last post was asking the previous contributor (or does it end with 'er'?) for clarification of the post
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James, almost every press-release, review and owner opinion I have seen loves the DSG.
Test drive it going over all routes - Motorway, town, queing to get into IKEA, etc - and your decision will reveal itself
Of course some love it, but it'll always be an extra £1,500 in my pocket and a manual gearbox for me, I think. :afro:
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If you actually questioning between a dsg and manual.. i have to say - " GO FOR THE DSG! ", manuals are for people who REALLY want full time manual.. those people dont even think about DSG.. besides look at the bright side a DSG is a manual too... :wink:
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Likewise, with all due respect, I'm not sure that that's entirely fair - I am agonising about the choice between DSG and
Fair enough - sorry, wasn't trying to stop you doing that.
Yes, from my experience with the DSG over a bit more than a week, the Auto mode is sometimes annoying (6th gear at less than 50 sometimes). It's not hard to use the paddles to shift down in advance of accelerating (or just wait for the kick down).
If you're agonising, insist on an extended test drive. If you can't get that, stick with the manual which is great as well.
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There is a huge 39 page discussion/arguement/slanging match on this subject here http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=122285.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=122285.0) which might help to confuse you a little more.
My advice - think about how you use your car, think about the benefits of an automatic gearbox in those conditions. If there are less than 3, buy a manual.
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James
The manual box is very easy to use and extremely smooth + you are immersed totally in your driving, not letting some auto box do it for you. The cost of the DSG was what put me off as I really wanted the xenons and ACC and I've not been disappointed.
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Thanks, GW - Enjoy the ACC? Got leather?
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... but is knocking the 'lever' up and down or flapping the paddles practical on an on-going basis or can you really only do it from time to time?....and, when you're in manual, can you do what you want or does the car 'take over' if she doesn't like what you're doing?
you can knock the lever up and down all you like... it is similar to changing gear in a manual only smoother
in manual the car doesn't "take over" unless the revs are waaay too low or you hit the red line.
like i said, for you, get the manual :)
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I'm going to go against my heart's advice - I'm going to go for the DSG and hope that I enjoy the technology
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Wish you all the best James... its a GTI... you will love it...
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lol! dude - you are impossible... but ETTO!
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Thanks, GW - Enjoy the ACC? Got leather?
No heard VW leather is nothing to write home about and I really like the look and feel of the cloth, it takes me back to the first days of the GTI all those years ago. lol how old am I ?
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^I do find it a shame that with the mk6 they did not move to the (mk1 series 2) cars type seat finish. but then stripes may not work as well. :undecided:
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Hi, GW - you saying you have heard that the leather ain't up to much or that you haven't heard? I'm going with the cloth anyway.
Enjoy!
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can't picture Mark I series 2 seats - I dare say plenty of pics on the web!
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can't picture Mark I series 2 seats - I dare say plenty of pics on the web!
A photo of mine.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/Photo-0126.jpg)
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I'm going to go against my heart's advice - I'm going to go for the DSG and hope that I enjoy the technology
F00k spending all that money on a hunch... :undecided: or maybe that's just skint little me... :laugh:
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I'm going to go against my heart's advice - I'm going to go for the DSG and hope that I enjoy the technology
F00k spending all that money on a hunch... :undecided: or maybe that's just skint little me... :laugh:
Its ok.. once you have spent all that money you make yourself like it :lipsrsealed: :grin:
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Hi, GW - you saying you have heard that the leather ain't up to much or that you haven't heard? I'm going with the cloth anyway.
Enjoy!
Hi James, apparently the leather is not the best quality, it is prone to stretching and then looks baggy, the cloth looks great and stops you sliding around in your seat too.
I wish you all the best with your order and when you receive your car.
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Thnx, pal - was sunroof a 'must' for you?
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James, is your last name Cozzens? For those of you going :huh: Do a google or Wikpedia search.
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Thnx, pal - was sunroof a 'must' for you?
It was for me.
Rolfe.
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James, is your last name Cozzens? For those of you going :huh: Do a google or Wikpedia search.
so he died 21 years ago?! i've heard of ghosts in the system, but this is ridiculous!
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Is DSG like 'the Emperor's New Clothes'? No disrespect intended but a lot of you guys are saying you love driving but have chosen DSG - you say it's great and that you love it but I can't understand how it can be as involving as driving a manual with a clutch - I do agree that the technology is clever and I do feel 'techno stubborn' thinking like I do but if something is being removed then, by definition, it can't be as good - have any of you who love driving chosen the DSG and regretted it? Does it make sense that I can get my head around the technology in Astons, Porsches and Ferraris but not in a 'hot hatch' - isn't the point of 'hot hatch' to have fun and involvement? Maybe if I'd done the manual hot hatch thing before, I'd not feel this way but....the way I feel, does anyone think I could/would be happy if I were to choose the DSG?
It's so good even my granny (a manual die hard) would like it.
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Is DSG like 'the Emperor's New Clothes'? No disrespect intended but a lot of you guys are saying you love driving but have chosen DSG - you say it's great and that you love it but I can't understand how it can be as involving as driving a manual with a clutch - I do agree that the technology is clever and I do feel 'techno stubborn' thinking like I do but if something is being removed then, by definition, it can't be as good - have any of you who love driving chosen the DSG and regretted it? Does it make sense that I can get my head around the technology in Astons, Porsches and Ferraris but not in a 'hot hatch' - isn't the point of 'hot hatch' to have fun and involvement? Maybe if I'd done the manual hot hatch thing before, I'd not feel this way but....the way I feel, does anyone think I could/would be happy if I were to choose the DSG?
It's so good even my granny (a manual die hard) would like it.
It's also so easy my 8 year old nephew could steer it. I did mean to say steer as there is no driving involved in a car with DSG.
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Is DSG like 'the Emperor's New Clothes'? No disrespect intended but a lot of you guys are saying you love driving but have chosen DSG - you say it's great and that you love it but I can't understand how it can be as involving as driving a manual with a clutch - I do agree that the technology is clever and I do feel 'techno stubborn' thinking like I do but if something is being removed then, by definition, it can't be as good - have any of you who love driving chosen the DSG and regretted it? Does it make sense that I can get my head around the technology in Astons, Porsches and Ferraris but not in a 'hot hatch' - isn't the point of 'hot hatch' to have fun and involvement? Maybe if I'd done the manual hot hatch thing before, I'd not feel this way but....the way I feel, does anyone think I could/would be happy if I were to choose the DSG?
It's so good even my granny (a manual die hard) would like it.
It's also so easy my 8 year old nephew could steer it. I did mean to say steer as there is no driving involved in a car with DSG.
It's bizarre to see that so many people think "driving" equates to "pressing a clutch". Oh well, it takes all sorts.
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Thnx, pal - was sunroof a 'must' for you?
Yeah have to say it was a 'must' the cabin in the GTI is very dark although I like it, seems like my own private cocoon. But for nice days it is great to be able to open up the roof and let the fresh air in. One thing it does tend to boom at certai speeds when open in slide mode.
Have you decided on your spec now then?
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Hi, GW
I thought i'd decided on the DSG but was driving a manual car this morning and the clutch/geat thing is so natural for me - agghh!!! Truth is that only people who voice regrets, even if only tiny regrets, are those who went for the DSG and say they, even if only slightly, miss their manual - I've never read a post from anyone saying went for manual and wished had gone DSG.
Only other thing I need to decide - I much prefer the 3 to the 5 door and even with kids, it's not the end of the world if i have to get out to let them out - most family journeys are in my wife's Freelander - BUT the 5 door allows me to get rear side air bags (and rear seat belt alarm) - thing is, some airbag reports say they aren't designed to protect kids and, if fact, the speed of inflation of the things and the area of impact on a child's body as opposed to on an adult's body make the airbags dangerous for kids! The Golf rear side airbags are in the sides of the seats, not the sides of the doors - I guess I should contact VW and ask what they think but such is the risk of litigation, they'll probably say nothing.
This is driving me up the flippin' wall - ironically, whatever I get....3 or 5, manual or DSG....this or that...once I've got it, I wont think about it again!
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Only other thing I need to decide - I much prefer the 3 to the 5 door and even with kids, it's not the end of the world if i have to get out to let them out - most family journeys are in my wife's Freelander - BUT the 5 door allows me to get rear side air bags (and rear seat belt alarm) - thing is, some airbag reports say they aren't designed to protect kids and, if fact,
Body structure in a 3 door will obviously be stronger without the extra doors. OTOH in a big front end collision, could be harder to get people out of the back in a 3 door...
James: Don't drive anywhere near a Volvo garage in the next few days! :smiley:
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I know that argument - if safety is paramount, I should buy a Volvo - and does my argument mean I'll never be able to have a 2-seater or a coupe (have had an RX-8) - if I wanted to buy, and could afford, a new 911, would I say I can't because there are no rear doors nor rear side airbags? of course not - point here is, I guess, can have a 3-door Gti OR a 5-dr - can have my cake and eat it.....I guess that's the point.
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James
I went for the 5 door option because I've got 2 kids to carry around, just thought it would be so much easier to open one door than have to get out slide the seat forward and let them clamber out tripping over the seatbelt as they come!!! I didn't opt for the air bags, heard conflicting reports on dangers to little ones.
Also I always think what if we're in a crash and we the parents are knocked unconscious and the kids can't get out. Nightmares are made of this!
In the end it is your choice and nobody can help you with that, all we can do is pass on advice. Why don't you take the family down to the dealers and try a 3 door and a 5 and then make a decision on what is best for you and your family.
All the best.
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wise wise words, GW - 5-dr it is - only thing with the rear side airbags is that the kids mustn't have their heads too close to the windows/sides of the rear seats as inflating airbags can bash their heads/neck and cause problems - also, have to consider where the impact of the airbags would be on the kids' bodies as oppose to on adults' bodies - chest side on adults, heads on kids?? Nothing is perfect but fact is that side rear airbags inflate slightly less quickly/violently/explosively that front airbags and whilst bad stuff can happen with airbags and kids, I hope/trust/believe that the good outweighs the bad - bottom line....better an airbag than car door inside the car and 50mph!
Thnx, again
J
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wise wise words, GW - 5-dr it is - only thing with the rear side airbags is that the kids mustn't have their heads too close to the windows/sides of the rear seats as inflating airbags can bash their heads/neck and cause problems - also, have to consider where the impact of the airbags would be on the kids' bodies as oppose to on adults' bodies - chest side on adults, heads on kids?? Nothing is perfect but fact is that side rear airbags inflate slightly less quickly/violently/explosively that front airbags and whilst bad stuff can happen with airbags and kids, I hope/trust/believe that the good outweighs the bad - bottom line....better an airbag than car door inside the car and 50mph!
Thnx, again
J
Makes sense James
All the best
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thnx, GW
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It's also so easy my 8 year old nephew could steer it. I did mean to say steer as there is no driving involved in a car with DSG.
Don't some rally cars come with semi-automatic gearboxes, plus Formula 1 cars? I don't think the likes of Jenson Button or Lewis Hamilton would agree that there is no driving involved in what they are doing.
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F1 uses it because the difference between winning and losing can be fractions of a second - it's a race, it's about using technology to change gear as quickly as poss and DSG does that - but that's not why I drive, I don't need gear changing perfection - I can drive just for the fun of it - and I'd be happy with it in an Aston, Porsche or Ferrari - but I just think my first hot hatch experience needs me to have the manual
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So does this mean you have definitely made a decision now? :laugh:
You mentioned earlier that you haven't read that people wished they had gone for a DSG instead of the manual. I think the reason could be that most people don't know what DSG is and therefore not bothered. Manual cars are the majority and the 'norm' in this country. If DSG was the norm/majority and manual cars were the latest technology then everything would be reversed.
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You're right - I imagine that if I'd had a manual mark V, I'd probably be up for the change but I just feel so comfortable with manual and haven't hot hatched before, I've got to go with the manual
J
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You can't go wrong with a tried and tested technology like manual. I get enjoyment driving any car - manual or DSG. Would not like a proper automatic though.
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What's your spec?
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I've only got a MkV GTI. Its Tornado Red, 5 door, DSG, Xenons, Cloth, 18" Monza's. I've got a toddler and find the 5 door really practical. It's really easy to get him in and out of the car seat. It's really easy to load the rear seats with stuff when we go away too.
I'd recommend the Xenons if you can afford them as they are brilliant. They are really bright and full beam is like day time. Really good for dark b roads. Only problem is that it can dazzle oncoming drivers as they are so bright.
I don't think I'd get a Mk6 as my car is only 2 years old and it wouldn't make economic sense for me to get one now. I still think that it is too similar to the Mk5 anyway to upgrade to. I'll probably wait for the Mk7 by which time I might have some more money to get a new car.
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I wouldn't be changing a 2 yr old mark V for a VI - you've got a fantastic car - why did you get it, though, when mark VI was close? I'd wait for mark VII if I were you - you got side rear airbags? I just don't understand the thing with Xenons -
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I got it simply because I always wanted a Golf GTI and I had the opportunity to get one two years ago plus I couldn't wait for the Mk6. As the Mk5 GTI was already established and was back on form, I decided to get that rather than wait for the Mk6 which was unknown. I couldn't wait for a car that could be great or could be another Mk3.
I've not regretted getting the Mk5. I've done 30,000 miles in it over two years and loved every mile of it.
As for Xenons, if you do a lot of driving at night on unlit roads, then they are a godsend. You won't miss that badger* crossing the road that's for sure! You will see it a mile away. You will see it's eye's shining brightly!
* or other annoying nocturnal beasts
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I don't do that sort of driving - you got rear side airbags or are they new for the mark 6?
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To be honest, I've not really taken any notice of the airbags in my car. I think the Mk5 has 6 airbags, 2 front, 2 front side and 2 curtain airbags as standard. That's all I have got. Not sure if any others were options.
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To be honest, I've not really taken any notice of the airbags in my car. I think the Mk5 has 6 airbags, 2 front, 2 front side and 2 curtain airbags as standard. That's all I have got. Not sure if any others were options.
To be honest not many people do, As most will never even know they are there. Only the unlucky few will it ever make a difference for. And even then there's 1000's of factors depending if it'll even make a difference