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Title: V5 - VIN number
Post by: violentportrait on 04 November 2009, 22:40
Hi, not sure if this is the right section, but ...

I bought a mk2 gti 4 weeks ago now, i was given the new keepers supplement but never saw the original V5 or i didnt sign anything either (it totally slipped my mind) i know i have to wait 6 weeks before i call to report if i havent recieved the new logbook but not sure if the person i bought it off even owned the car on paper (he sells alot of vw's on ebay)

anyway, i done a vehicle check online and it said the last registered keeper was in 2007 and the guy i bought it off only had it a few months, also, i typed in the VIN number that i found on the MOT certificates and it came back saying the number i typed in doesnt match the one on the database for my car.

Can anyone shed any light on this? Thanks
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: Alec on 04 November 2009, 22:49
Theres a website that gives you a free vehicle check when you put in the registration number, i'll try and find the site for you
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: Alec on 04 November 2009, 23:29


https://www.mycarcheck.com/

Might be able to verify if it has been recorded stolen and if the year, colour and spec match
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: violentportrait on 05 November 2009, 00:32
thanks, sir digby, that's the site i done the original check on. just a bit concerned that the VIN on the MOT certificate doesnt match the one that check site have on their database :undecided:
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: theclash on 05 November 2009, 08:32
if i were you i would ring the dvla and ask them dont wait 6 week
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: Wayne on 05 November 2009, 09:04
thanks, sir digby, that's the site i done the original check on. just a bit concerned that the VIN on the MOT certificate doesnt match the one that check site have on their database :undecided:


Something sounds dodgy to me.
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: Alec on 05 November 2009, 13:46
Yeah something sounds a little bit odd, have you matched the vin on the mot to the actual vin on the car?
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: jezza16v on 05 November 2009, 13:54
If you didn't fill out your address on the V5 yourself and sign it how will the DVLA know where to send the new docs. You are relying on the seller to fill it in properly and send it off........presuming you gave him your name & address? There is no way the VIN can change unless number plates were swapped to a similar car for the MOT. Presuming you have the car why not check the actual VIN on the car matches the DVLA records rather than the MoT certificate. You can also check the car's previous MoT history on the web, details are on the certificate, maybe the MoT certificate is a forgery?
Its a common trick to avoid showing the V5 or make an excuse if its a repaired write off because more recent 'write off/repair' events are shown on the bottom of the V5, often the seller will make an excuse that the V5 is lost or still with the DVLA........I almost got caught out with a clio this way not long ago.......beware!.......Always get the info off the V5 and run a data check 'before you buy it'!

+1.............sounds very dodgy :undecided:
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: violentportrait on 05 November 2009, 18:09
I left the guy i sold it to with my address to fill out as he hadn't recieved the V5 himself. i'm starting to get bad feelings now, i've done a check from the number plate and it's come back as a cat D write off in 1999. Where can i find the VIN on the car itself?
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: Ninja on 05 November 2009, 18:27
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure its either under the bonnet, near the catch. OR under the bonet, near the windscreen.
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: Alec on 05 November 2009, 18:31
Sorry mate, only just got ur private message, chassis number is located under the rain tray as you open the bonnet (close to the windscreen) and the vehicle identification plate should be on the offside wing near the air filter  :smiley:
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: Ninja on 05 November 2009, 18:40
Sorry mate, only just got ur private message, chassis number is located under the rain tray as you open the bonnet (close to the windscreen) and the vehicle identification plate should be on the offside wing near the air filter  :smiley:

Ah, I was sort of right both times. lol.
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: violentportrait on 05 November 2009, 18:54
Thanks for your help, i found it :) the VIN on the car matches the MOT certificate but as i said earlier in the check it was a Cat D write off, so can i assume the VIN has been fraudulently changed to disguise the write off? if so and i inform the DVLA can they sieze the car or make me put it through whatever test it needs to go through to get a proper MOT?
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: Horney on 05 November 2009, 19:00
It's not unkown for computer errors with HPI checks and details. I'd apply for the V5 and see what it actually says when you get it. Car could well be a ringer but it could be legit.

Cat D aint's so bad was probably just tapped up the rear or something. Does it still have the sticker on the rear panel inside the boot? Everything look straight? If so then I wouldn't worry too much.

Nick
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: Alec on 05 November 2009, 19:05
yeah as horney says, might be alright. Could just be that the guy u bought it off didnt want you to know it was a cat d hence saying he didnt have the logbook. I dont know too much about this situation but it could be a forged mot? Dont think they would seize the car unless it was listed as stolen and not recovered
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: jezza16v on 06 November 2009, 08:16
Check the MoT history at www.motinfo.gov.uk. The very first recorded mot test listing will give you the vin number and reg at that time, the records seem to start around 2006, the reg of my car at that time was a personalised one different to the current one but the VIN matches.
If the mot is genuine against the actual VIN of your vehicle it means that it was the vehicle tested and passed, (unless the mot tester was dodgy). Sounds to me like the number plate has been swapped off another vehicle?
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: violentportrait on 06 November 2009, 12:32
Thanks for the link jezza, i just checked on there and everything matches back to 2005...shame it doesnt go back further. The test centre that the car had been taken to had issued 3 fails in a row in the past 3 years on minor things really, so hopefully the tester doesnt sound dodgy. I might ring the DVLA today if i cant get hold of the person i bought it off , seee what's going on
Title: Re: V5 - VIN number
Post by: jezza16v on 06 November 2009, 13:01
Sounds like the number plate may have been changed at some time, sometimes the cheap data checks don't pick it up and you have to query it with them. My son is an mot tester and I spoke to him about it, if the VIN does not match the Reg No. recorded at the DVLA it is rejected and the car can not be mot'd so something must be right........?