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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: The Dave on 29 October 2009, 19:01
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As title. My car has a Stage 1 map (APR remap) done at Awesome, but it was done by the previous owner and I've no receipt for it...
I was wondering which fuel is best if anyone knows? I know some maps are written for 95 ron apparently, some for 98 etc..
Just wondered peoples takes on it? I don't wanna do any damage either way... so which is best folks? :D
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Aviation Fuel.....
Or settle for 98<
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vpower or other 'super' petrols will be fine with whichever map you have, although you'd get more gains if you have the appropriate map for that fuel
if its the other way round, and you have the high octane map but are using crap fuel you'll be missing some performance as the ecu adjusts for knock
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I'll have to try find a bit of time in the day to contact Awesome to see if they can advise what maps on there from it's reg...
Anyone else with an APR map done there who knows more about it? :)
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I used to have a stage 1 seat ibiza cupra. Stage 1 was a 95Ron map iirc but fine to run on 98ron - i did run it on 98 myself as i thought it ran a bit better (but suspect it may have been imaginary!). Stage 2 is 98Ron for APR maps.
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shell v-power all the way :wink:
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can't get V power over here :sad:
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my old man laugh's at me when i tell him i fill up will vpower, then i try explaining and he laugh's evan more! :grin:
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I'll get some v-power in her next tank then and run it for a bit to see how it is :)
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can't get V power over here :sad:
:shocked: how kums?
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he live on a island in the middle of the sea! :grin:
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Hi
As has been said , the APR remap is done for 95 , 98 and 99 ron fuels
If it has the 95 ron fuel map , the higher ron fuel will just give it a tad more ooomph
So treat her and give her some V-Power ;)
Sarah
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When i was at Awesome the other night getting my trial map they were very specific about which fuel i'm using as to which map they put on my car so worth asking them imo..
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Cheers for the reply.
Sarah, if I was to call and quote my reg would you guys be able to specifically find out which map my car has?
I've ran V Power for a bit now and not getting better mpg at all. About 10-15 miles less per £20.
Seems to perform fine though, boosts a little harder I think... but could be down to the cool air we've now got? :)
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Cheers for the reply.
Sarah, if I was to call and quote my reg would you guys be able to specifically find out which map my car has?
I've ran V Power for a bit now and not getting better mpg at all. About 10-15 miles less per £20.
Seems to perform fine though, boosts a little harder I think... but could be down to the cool air we've now got? :)
Hi
We do keep some records , but not for much more than a year
When was it done?
If you want you could PM me and I can look in to it for you
Sarah
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Hi Sarah, have sent you a PM. Not to worry if you've no records or can't help but I really appreciate the offer as I've not got much history with the car :)
Thanks! :cool:
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Hi Sarah, have sent you a PM. Not to worry if you've no records or can't help but I really appreciate the offer as I've not got much history with the car :)
Thanks! :cool:
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Sarah
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Cheers for the reply.
Sarah, if I was to call and quote my reg would you guys be able to specifically find out which map my car has?
I've ran V Power for a bit now and not getting better mpg at all. About 10-15 miles less per £20.
Seems to perform fine though, boosts a little harder I think... but could be down to the cool air we've now got? :)
What MPG are you getting?
If you cannot find what APR map is on your car, then the best way to find out which is the best fuel to use is log the timing via vagcom on 95ron then on v-power to see how much correction is being added to the happy shopper fuel, if there is a lot of correction / ignition pull going on then you mapped for 97+
Its always good to run on a higher rated fuel even if your running a 95 ron map.
Nick
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Hi Nick, cheers for the reply :)
I do 90% town driving mate, I have to admit times are hard and I very rarely boost about (tis a 1999 model, ko3 turbo) so I'm getting 28/29mpg average (worked it out myself) on 95 ron fuel, yet to really work the 99 ron stuff out as tried not use car much lately with xmas looming etc.
Heard good things about your place and you're not too far away, may have to nip up one day! I've not got a laptop or access to one with vagcom on but could do with someone local who knows their stuff maybe hooking theirs up and coming for a drive with me so I can see how it's boosting and all that kinda stuff too aswell as logging things like you mentioned, would be good to know.
Hopefully I'll be able to get a laptop & cable early next year and start learning a bit about these VAGmobiles coming from Vauxhalls which were cheap and simple haha!
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Hi Nick, cheers for the reply :)
I do 90% town driving mate, I have to admit times are hard and I very rarely boost about (tis a 1999 model, ko3 turbo) so I'm getting 28/29mpg average (worked it out myself) on 95 ron fuel, yet to really work the 99 ron stuff out as tried not use car much lately with xmas looming etc.
Heard good things about your place and you're not too far away, may have to nip up one day! I've not got a laptop or access to one with vagcom on but could do with someone local who knows their stuff maybe hooking theirs up and coming for a drive with me so I can see how it's boosting and all that kinda stuff too aswell as logging things like you mentioned, would be good to know.
Hopefully I'll be able to get a laptop & cable early next year and start learning a bit about these VAGmobiles coming from Vauxhalls which were cheap and simple haha!
Vauxhall is where I started tuning after a stint with Ford, C20XE & C20LET cheap and fun to tuned.
Thats low MPG, there could be an underlaying issue under the bonnet, the most common issue for low mpg is a boost leak and the main culprit is the rubber link pipe from the turbo outlet to the pancake pipe. If you want to pop over I will take a quick look for you, just bring some mince pies with you.
Nick
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:shocked: how kums?
Pretty much what Darkgti said, we don't have a Shell garage over here. I get a 5p a litre fuel voucher everytime I do the shopping at Tesco though so I fill up with super instead.
I treat it to V power when I can though
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I've ran 20 quids worth of Tesco 99 stuff through also now, same results as V power.
Worse MPG than 95 ron, performance.. I don't really think it's any better or worse overall... think the cold air affects it more!
But, many thanks to Sarah @ Awesome (much appreciated time and effort put in there!) I now know what map is on my car. It's a 95 ron map.
So what do you think guys/experts - stick to 95 ron fuel for increased MPG and identical performance? Especially interested to see if Nick from R-Tech replies :)
Something else I've noticed on 99 ron fuel is... the engine is a little gruffer/rougher sounding? I'm not convinced it's doing me any favours! :)
So, if I stick to 95 ron... which is the "best fuel" to use quality wise. Shell is cheap around here... good fuel? Texaco is also cheap, never tried it before. I've ran a lot of Asda fuel and Jet fuel in the Golf, Asda seeming to be smooth and economical. Impressed I was!
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i`m no expert by any means but by the sounds of it your car is mapped to run 95 ron fuel.
when i had my car mapped i mentioned before hand that i had filled up with tesco blue stripe 99 ron stuff. once mapped i noticed one hell of a difference. however whenever i have been skint i have opted for the extra blue stripe 95 ron cack
i notice not as much pull and hesitation with the 95 ron stuff which makes me very unhappy and i dont even notice a MPG gain (not that i make a note of it) .
so, i always use 99ron or shell Vpower whenever possible and the difference for me is alot noticable. now the only problem i have is my blue stripe front tyres not being able to put the power to the road (especially when its wet).
i have been considering swapping the front tyres for the backs but i just cant be assed.
it would handle alot better too.. :laugh:
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I've ran 20 quids worth of Tesco 99 stuff through also now, same results as V power.
Worse MPG than 95 ron, performance.. I don't really think it's any better or worse overall... think the cold air affects it more!
But, many thanks to Sarah @ Awesome (much appreciated time and effort put in there!) I now know what map is on my car. It's a 95 ron map.
So what do you think guys/experts - stick to 95 ron fuel for increased MPG and identical performance? Especially interested to see if Nick from R-Tech replies :)
Something else I've noticed on 99 ron fuel is... the engine is a little gruffer/rougher sounding? I'm not convinced it's doing me any favours! :)
So, if I stick to 95 ron... which is the "best fuel" to use quality wise. Shell is cheap around here... good fuel? Texaco is also cheap, never tried it before. I've ran a lot of Asda fuel and Jet fuel in the Golf, Asda seeming to be smooth and economical. Impressed I was!
Quite literally: put the best fuel in and you will get the best performance and mpg that your map will allow.........simples!!!!!!!
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Well I've ran a bit of Shell 95 ron stuff through and mpg seems a tad better and engine feels a bit smoother.
Gonna stick to 95 ron fuel :)