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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Mk6GTI on 16 October 2009, 18:10
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I test drove a Focus ST and sat in an RS.
Also thought about a Civic type R but the engine did not suit me.
Really glad I bought VW, no regrets.
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Audi S3, Audi A3 2.0T S-line,
SEAT Leon Cupra, SEAT Leon 2.0T FR
SEAT Ibiza Cupra
Skoda Octavia vRS
Ford Focus ST
VW scirocco 2.0T
BINI JCW
Alfa MiTo GTA (but it never came out when predicted)
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3 series BMW
5 series BMW
7 series BMW
Z4M
S3
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^wash your mouth out. :wink:
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^wash your mouth out.
Lets face it... they are better :lipsrsealed:
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Than what, a cortina :drool: :wink: There just cortinas with extra extra extra extra extra extra wide tyres. :evil: :grin:
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I Googled the Alfa MiTo GTA. What a shame Fiat dropped the concept, 237bhp and cheaper than a Mini. I still would have gone for the VW GTI, you need a good dealer near when you buy an Alfa.
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Or an alfa mechanic as a close relative. :wink: which is why it was on my list :wink: :cool:
You buy Alfas with your hart, you buy Volkswagens with your head.
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Or an alfa mechanic as a close relative. :wink: which is why it was on my list :wink: :cool:
You buy Alfas with your hart, you buy Volkswagens with your head.
And your heart.
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Drove an Astra VXR and a Civic Type R. Liked the former but not the latter.
Wife didn't like the Focus ST as she thought it was cheap.
I was never going to buy a Skoda and I don't like the shape of the Leon.
So it was only ever going to be the Golf, a Scirocco or the VXR. Once driven, the Golf won me over instantly.
Still not sure it's worth £5k more than a VXR though!! So I don't think about the money and just enjoy the car.
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I was considering a Focus ST (this was sometime last year) When I phoned the Ford dealer to try arranging a test drive, in so many words I was told I would need be already ready to buy the car instead of just wasting their time and fuel. I told him I was considering the GTI and he recommended me to go test the GTI then come back and when I was ready for the ST.
Nice. :undecided:
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One of the pet gripes I have about the choice of hot-hatches is the lack of 5 door options. AFAIK the GTI, Focus ST, maybe the Leons only offer 5 doors, most of the other decent ones eg Astra VXR, Civic Type-R, Clio, Megane, only offer 3 doors, and for me having the practicality of 5 doors is great and I got that in my current car and it would feel like a downgrade to go back to 3. So is there an obvious sore-thumb obvious reason why more manufacturers offer 4/5 doors?
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Yes its hugely affects the handling and adds huge costs to develop!
Also 5 doors look sh!te! :wink:
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Audi TT, S3.
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Yes its hugely affects the handling and adds huge costs to develop!
Also 5 doors look sh!te! :wink:
Oh you nasty little boy :evil: :evil: :evil:my car has 5 doors and does not look s...e!!
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:grin:
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Never really considered the MKVI, but the ALL new MKVII looks promising. :wink:
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I currently drive an A3 170 DSG with 80k on it; I dont want to drop down in power so the Mk6 GTD is a good option. If VW did a GT with the same engine in light blue I would have ordered one of those (I like the 'soft' front end with the friendly round fog lights)
I looked at another A3, a black edition, a BMW 123d coupe, 320d and A4.
I'll be waiting until January for it and hope I wont be disappointed.
My orginal plan was to go for a year old 335d but ultimately it would not have been worth the outlay.
The main reasons I plumped for a GTD was the tax bracket (E), the monthly payments, reported handling and the many options available.
I do 27k per annum and in comparison to another A3 (same £25k) the lease payments are £381 vs £427. In these hard times I reckon it looks good to try and lower costs.
Although I pay BIK from my pay packet, I feel really lucky to spec a £25k+ car and not even have to contribute towards the fuel.
After much deliberation I finally went for a manual five door GTD in white with several options inlcuding dynaudio, rear view and a retro fit Fiscon.
I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on the car, specially for the dynaudio.
Not having to pay for a car frees up money to fund trackdays on a CBR600RR sportsbike.
If I was buying a car for fun with my own money I would be seriously tempted by a Lotus.
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Never really considered the MKVI, but the ALL new MKVII looks promising. :wink:
Lol
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I test drove a Focus ST and sat in an RS.
Also thought about a Civic type R but the engine did not suit me.
Really glad I bought VW, no regrets.
the focus and vauxhalls will make u cry. worth peanuts after 3 yrs. on the otherhand though the gti is expensive, you will recup far more. also the civic has jack faeces review. i dont know about you but i'd be embarassed if i had a vauxhall or a civic. it aint got any class. the only ppl that like these cars are chav's.
this is our fifth golf, and i've only ever had german cars. i got audi tt (mark 2). its faster than the golf gti which shares its engine.
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I test drove a Focus ST and sat in an RS.
Also thought about a Civic type R but the engine did not suit me.
Really glad I bought VW, no regrets.
the focus and vauxhalls will make u cry. worth peanuts after 3 yrs. on the otherhand though the gti is expensive, you will recup far more. also the civic has jack faeces review. i dont know about you but i'd be embarassed if i had a vauxhall or a civic. it aint got any class. the only ppl that like these cars are chav's.
this is our fifth golf, and i've only ever had german cars. i got audi tt (mark 2). its faster than the golf gti which shares its engine.
Can't carry a fence panel though, and it's girly (you might be a girl on the otherhand and then it's OK)
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Guys I think Im going to buy a 135i coupe M sport. Making my decision on monday. The reason the mk6 is at the back of my mind is lack of discount with VW. The 135 comes in at 32k with my options. Thats 4k more than my spec'd up mk6. However BMW are more than happy to drop about 5k. Its unreal! VW will take a grand off max. I also went back to Audi for the S3, that was coming in at 28k with discount too. I Love the GTI but VW what are you playing at!
I will post my decision on Monday :undecided:
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135i has a great engine and with a remap will make the gti look a little silly im affraid :lipsrsealed: Will probably hold its value well too... but dont forget to factor in running cost too. The BMW will cost you more overall... but with that kind of discount who would argue :undecided:
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I know mate, the discount is the big push to be honest. Test drove the beemer on Fri. It was awesum, soo fast. 0-60 5.3. 155 top limiter. Remap takes it to 160+mph and 4.5 sec'ish 0-60mph. Basically it beats an M3. All this for less than a GTI. Im gutted about VW really am. :sad:
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I know mate, the discount is the big push to be honest. Test drove the beemer on Fri. It was awesum, soo fast. 0-60 5.3. 155 top limiter. Remap takes it to 160+mph and 4.5 sec'ish 0-60mph. Basically it beats an M3. All this for less than a GTI. Im gutted about VW really am. :sad:
Buy the BMW and I will swap you! :laugh:
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the focus and vauxhalls will make u cry. worth peanuts after 3 yrs. on the otherhand though the gti is expensive, you will recup far more.
So its worth less but you paid less to start with. Workout how much it actually cost in pound notes lost rather than look at % figures. Theres a reason % figures were introduced and why goverments always quote things in % as it never shows the real figures. I find it funny when people say things like this as it shows they have no idea how % values work. In real pound notes lost terms ie the actual money you will loose its more than likley you loose less on a car thats far cheaper to buy in the first place. I proved this when we went from running VWs to SEATs in the late 90s and i actually lost far less in pound notes even though Golf owners kept saying well ours keeps 50% value yours only 35%.
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Haha why not give BMW a call... Ps customer service was 5star! Gave me a bit to eat and coffee while we discussed the beast! Nice little touch :smiley:
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the focus and vauxhalls will make u cry. worth peanuts after 3 yrs. on the otherhand though the gti is expensive, you will recup far more.
So its worth less but you paid less yo start with. Workout howmuch its actually cost in pound notes lost rather than look as % figures. Theres a reason % figures were introduced and why goverments always quote things in % as it never shows the real figures. I find it funny when people say things like this as it shows they have no idea how % values work. In real pound notes lost terms ie the actual money you will loose its more than likley you loose less on a car thats far cheaper to buy in the first place.
very true. however the golf does have the best residuals in its class.
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very true. however the golf does have the best residuals in its class.
But residuals meen NOTHING its a percent value it meens NOTHING. In true money lost a cheaper car to buy with much less % value residuals looses you less real money it costs you less actual money, the pound notes out of your pocket. % values are a way of fiddling figures and putting fault impressions into peoples heads. Its amazing how many people don't actual look at it in real pound notes and sit down and do the maths to work it out.
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very true. however the golf does have the best residuals in its class.
But residuals meen NOTHING its a percent value it meens NOTHING. In true money lost a cheaper car to buy with much less % value residuals looses you less real money it costs you less. % Values are a way of fiddling figures and putting fault impressions into peoples heads.
I understand what your saying.... but your missing out the most important factor, which is the fact that your driving a better car, and therefore have to pay for a better car before you lose less percentage of what you paid for.... which really isnt as much as you say.
e.g
Golf £23k may lose 16% in first year = £3680 (so its worth £19320 after first year)
Astra £20k may lose 17% in first year = £3400 (so its worth £16600 after first year)
So yes the Golf has lost £280 more in its first year... but really its only cost you £280 more to have the Golf over the Astra. Simples :wink:
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The 135i is a nice motor, very fast, but the looks, running costs and lack of practicality would rule it out for me.
In terms of discount, the internet brokers should get you over £2k... but can't argue that the BMW discount is massive. That said, why not try the internet brokers to source the BMW? Perhaps you could get an even better discount than the dealer!
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I understand what your saying.... but your missing out the most important factor, which is the fact that your driving a better car, and therefore have to pay for a better car before you lose less percentage of what you paid for.
Maybe but everyones views of better is different.
As an example back in late 90s we bought a Ibiza GTI16V over a mk3 Golf GTI because i thought it a better car. We then bought a mk1 SEAT Leon over a mk4 Golf for the same reason i thought it had a better handling/ride compromise and decent quality. As a long term VW owner/GTI owner the Golf owners all shouted 'residuels' at me as SEATs were real bad back then (in the 30% area) we actually lost less in pound notes terms than if i had bought the so called superior % value residual golfs because the SEATs were cheaper and far cheaper after discounts were took into account they saved me thousands in depreciation over the equivelent golfs in money lost after 3 years.
Its easy to work out sit down with the residual % value of a rival and the golf. Work out 3rd year 'trade' value. Subtract it from the original list price cost (best if you can find the discount value people are really paying for real new cost). Giving you pound notes lost value. ie what it will cost in depreciation. These will look far different to misleading % values.
% residuals is not a reason to buy a golf over its rivals if anything its a reason to not buy it as it will more than likley cost you more in pound notes terms than its rivals.
Its amazing how many people get brainwashed by this % residual BS. When some simple maths will show you a better idea of what looses you actually more money.
Simple maths will show what im on about so i don't see any reason to explain it further. back on topic time. I will shut up now. :evil:
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I was considering a Focus ST (this was sometime last year) When I phoned the Ford dealer to try arranging a test drive, in so many words I was told I would need be already ready to buy the car instead of just wasting their time and fuel. I told him I was considering the GTI and he recommended me to go test the GTI then come back and when I was ready for the ST.
That's not so different to what happened to me. I was looking at the ST online, and I snuck off one lunchtime to the nearest Ford dealer for a look.
They didn't have an ST in the showroom. They couldn't book me a test drive in one. Best of all, they didn't have a brochure for one. This, apparently, because it was the car everyone wanted.
So I got back in my Peugeot, drove to the nearest VW dealer, where they had a Golf GTi in the showroom, handed me a brochure almost before I asked, apologised for not being able to give me a test drive then and there (which I hadn't asked for) and booked me in for Saturday.
The Ford dealer emailed me, and I suggested he get in touch when he could arrange a test drive for me. I also suggested he might hurry up, before I just bought a Golf. I haven't heard from him again.
Rolfe.
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I understand what your saying.... but your missing out the most important factor, which is the fact that your driving a better car, and therefore have to pay for a better car before you lose less percentage of what you paid for.
Maybe but everyones views of better is different.
As an example back in late 90s we bought a Ibiza GTI16V over a mk3 Golf GTI because i thought it a better car. We then bought a mk1 SEAT Leon over a mk4 Golf for the same reason i thought it had a better handling/ride compromise and decent quality. As a long term VW owner/GTI owner the Golf owners all shouted 'residuels' at me as SEATs were real bad back then (in the 30% area) we actually lost less in pound notes terms than if i had bought the so called superior % value residual golfs because the SEATs were cheaper and far cheaper after discounts were took into account they saved me thousands in depreciation over the equivelent golfs in money lost after 3 years.
Its easy to work out sit down with the residual % value of a rival and the golf. Work out 3rd year 'trade' value. Subtract it from the original list price cost (best if you can find the discount value people are really paying for real new cost). Giving you pound notes lost value. ie what it will cost in depreciation. These will look far different to misleading % values.
% residuals is not a reason to buy a golf over its rivals if anything its a reason to not buy it as it will more than likley cost you more in pound notes terms than its rivals.
Its amazing how many people get brainwashed by this % residual BS. When some simple maths will show you a better idea of what looses you actually more money.
Simple maths will show what im on about so i don't see any reason to explain it further. back on topic time. I will shut up now. :evil:
I often rent the SEAT Golf sized car in Spain.
I hate it. Nasty sharp plastics on everything, even the window switches.
My favorite rent car is the Ford Focus, I would not own one but they are very good cars.
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I'm waiting on the Golf R but I'm also considering an Audi S4 quattro Avant. If I have the Golf I will have to keep the Passat as the family runabout. Problem with the Audi though is it looks the same as all those reps/c*cks in their s-line TDI's.
But residuals meen NOTHING its a percent value it meens NOTHING.
Of course it means something - you just used it very effectively to show the difference in depreciation between a GTI and an Ibiza... :smiley:
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So I got back in my Peugeot, drove to the nearest VW dealer, where they had a Golf GTi in the showroom, handed me a brochure almost before I asked, apologised for not being able to give me a test drive then and there (which I hadn't asked for) and booked me in for Saturday.
That's kind of similar to what happened when i phoned up my local VW - the dude invited me down and let me test drive a sweet Mk5 with DSG without even taking my personal details! this kind of got me puzzled as to his openness as i could have quite easily been a bored chav looking for some cheap thrills on a Saturday afternoon. I even brought some mates with me to sit in the back. :shocked: in the end i didn't buy one, thus sort of wasted his time and effort. however i'd like to think i've redeemed myself by going back over a year later. I'm amazed the same guy is working there (presumably he must be doing well since the stealer still employs him) and as some of you know i've ordered an Mk6 through him..... i do think he's a bit more conservative now compared to when i first met him - he's not going to give test drives to any old loser.
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Guys I think Im going to buy a 135i coupe M sport. Making my decision on monday. The reason the mk6 is at the back of my mind is lack of discount with VW. The 135 comes in at 32k with my options. Thats 4k more than my spec'd up mk6. However BMW are more than happy to drop about 5k. Its unreal! VW will take a grand off max. I also went back to Audi for the S3, that was coming in at 28k with discount too. I Love the GTI but VW what are you playing at!
I will post my decision on Monday :undecided:
you fool! 32 grnad for a 1 series coupe. 32 grand can get the latest a5 cabriolet. bmw 3 series cabriolet. the e-class coupe. you're paying over the odds for essentially a very awful car with awful reviews. and its dated. i would go for the a5 cabriolet. absolute gem- i hate the a4 cabriolet a couple ofyrs ago. residuals are top notch and classy car. the bmw 1 series is pants. another good one is the 3.2 audi tt or the tts at 33 grand.. (272 bhp) 32 grand could get a porsche cayman s second hand from porsche is like a new car.
have you considered a
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i would go for the a5 cabriolet.
You tart :grin:
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i would go for the a5 cabriolet.
You tart :grin:
its a good car. nowt wrong with it. not going to appeal to chav's but ppl with some class. yep its a posers car but its only an ideal. the one sthat say the residuals dont matter from brand to brand are so wrong. its not word of mouth, th efacts are their to see. if you ccheck second hand and work it out, they dont depreciate much. on the other hand a 3 yr old ford st would drop significantly. i persoanlly would get the tts over a 1 series 135. its baby r8 essentailly. the folks saying its a girls car have failed to acknowledge the fact the old tt is not the new tt. and they haven't checked the reviews on "what car". or the fact that they have never driven one. my mate drove a tts and a r8 on them day event gifts and he said the tts is better than the r8 at silverstone. i ahve the tt. the ride is awesome, girls car. not achance! defo nnot for chav's!
i garantee most gti owners are chav's with money. this si probably their dream car. my dream car is a 911. or a r8.
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i garantee most gti owners are chav's with money.
You chav :grin:
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you fool! 32 grnad for a 1 series coupe. 32 grand can get the latest a5 cabriolet. bmw 3 series cabriolet. the e-class coupe. you're paying over the odds for essentially a very awful car with awful reviews. and its dated. i would go for the a5 cabriolet. absolute gem- i hate the a4 cabriolet a couple ofyrs ago. residuals are top notch and classy car. the bmw 1 series is pants. another good one is the 3.2 audi tt or the tts at 33 grand.. (272 bhp) 32 grand could get a porsche cayman s second hand from porsche is like a new car.
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Dude I am not paying 32k thats the point. Its not dated, and the reviews are all 5star. You maybe thinking of the 1 series hatchback. Im looking at the coupe. 1/4mile quicker than a new M3. 306bhp. It beats a caymen s hands down. Lol be serious an A5!! Not the same class. Check out fifthgears review on you tube, infact just type BMW 135i then you'll get the point.
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you fool! 32 grnad for a 1 series coupe. 32 grand can get the latest a5 cabriolet. bmw 3 series cabriolet.
Dude I am not paying 32k thats the point. Its not dated, and the reviews are all 5star. You maybe thinking of the 1 series hatchback. Im looking at the coupe. 1/4mile quicker than a new M3. 306bhp. It beats a caymen s hands down. Lol be serious an A5!! Not the same class. Check out fifthgears review on you tube, infact just type BMW 135i then you'll get the point.
i c your point. i still think its only a 1 series. its not the engine, the series as a whole isnt very appealing. the 1 series was never any good. personally i would of prefered a tts or a second hand cayman s. i think its more desirable, more cool. it may be faster than a m3 1/4 mile but i doubt any m3 owner is cacking their pants side by side at the traffic lights. but then again you're not paying 40 odd grand so...
its way better than this gti- which i feel is very slow in comparison. i was only stating the cayman as a 3 yr old one would cost under 30 grand and i think thats a bargain from what they would cost new. why im considering changing my tt for one- i mean new is too pricey at the mo.
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1 Series Coupe's are very underrated cars. Dismissed as being another duff 1 series Hatchback - the coupe has a different suspension set up, and in the 135i a LSD that puts the power down very well. In fact - it is a performance car bargain. Its as quick as an M3 and can be mapped to stupid figures. The Beemer diesels are some of the best available - the 123d has over 200 break on tap with twin turbos pulling it to 60 in under 7 seconds. Yes they arent exactly drop dead gorgeous to look at (The mk6 is hardly a looker though is it!) but they are aimed at a different sort of buyer - they are much more grown up.
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denyason is, as i long suspected just a troll. trying to be inflamatory on many levels, just ignore him.
In terms of other cars i considered before the Mk6 - I considered paying half as much for a second hand Mk5. Would make massive financial sense and is a very good car (I won't get into the similarities with the Mk6). Ultimately I couldn't find a decent one in the spec I wanted and was in a position to be able to afford a new one as a treat to myself (been working really hard lately).
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Keelaw your right it comes down to money and whether your willing to "treat" yourself. Its going to cost me less for a 135i M Sport. that is ridiculous. I freakn love the Mk6 too!
Blackroc youve hit the nail on the head. Ive done my research and its the car for me. Deposits going down tomorrow...
Denyason I was in Audi the other day, god the TTS and TTRS are nuts, almost perfect but not for me.
Dont get me wrong I still want a MK6 GTI but aint paying £27k(options to spec it up) + £1000 off.
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I often rent the SEAT Golf sized car in Spain.
I hate it. Nasty sharp plastics on everything, even the window switches.
My favorite rent car is the Ford Focus, I would not own one but they are very good cars.
Your talking about the mk2 leon. I did say mk1 leon. The mk1 leon used the dash, instruments, switchgear etc etc from the early audi A3s. :tongue:
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I understand what your saying.... but your missing out the most important factor, which is the fact that your driving a better car, and therefore have to pay for a better car before you lose less percentage of what you paid for.... which really isnt as much as you say.
e.g
Golf £23k may lose 16% in first year = £3680 (so its worth £19320 after first year)
Astra £20k may lose 17% in first year = £3400 (so its worth £16600 after first year)
So yes the Golf has lost £280 more in its first year... but really its only cost you £280 more to have the Golf over the Astra. Simples :wink:
Snoopy I think you may have missed the bit above as I did edit my post later :wink: if your talking discounts into mind then it kind of creates an unlevel playing field in terms of whats better value. Many people on here have had very differing levels discount dependent on where they live and trade in etc etc.
Just to add... if dealers are offering BIG discounts on certain vehicles then there is probably a very good reason for that :wink: :smiley:
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you fool! 32 grnad for a 1 series coupe. 32 grand can get the latest a5 cabriolet. bmw 3 series cabriolet. the e-class coupe. you're paying over the odds for essentially a very awful car with awful reviews. and its dated. i would go for the a5 cabriolet. absolute gem- i hate the a4 cabriolet a couple ofyrs ago. residuals are top notch and classy car. the bmw 1 series is pants. another good one is the 3.2 audi tt or the tts at 33 grand.. (272 bhp) 32 grand could get a porsche cayman s second hand from porsche is like a new car.
That is probably one of the worst post I have read... not only for its content but spelling/grammar. get it together lad, we dont expect perfect english but at least make it readable!
A5 cab, 3 series cab would be low spec for that money. As would the E Class coupe. TT or TTS is a good shout but but in terms of performance the 135i would have it hands down... and where the Audi shouts the BMW goes on quietly with its business. As for the Cayman S... whats the point in confusing new with old?? Not to mention running costs :wink:
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I understand what your saying.... but your missing out the most important factor, which is the fact that your driving a better car, and therefore have to pay for a better car before you lose less percentage of what you paid for.... which really isnt as much as you say.
e.g
Golf £23k may lose 16% in first year = £3680 (so its worth £19320 after first year)
Astra £20k may lose 17% in first year = £3400 (so its worth £16600 after first year)
So yes the Golf has lost £280 more in its first year... but really its only cost you £280 more to have the Golf over the Astra. Simples :wink:
Snoopy I think you may have missed the bit above as I did edit my post later :wink: if your talking discounts into mind then it kind of creates an unlevel playing field in terms of whats better value. Many people on here have had very differing levels discount dependent on where they live and trade in etc etc.
Just to add... if dealers are offering BIG discounts on certain vehicles then there is probably a very good reason for that :wink: :smiley:
Yes i did miss that. As i posted later i will not push on % values as anyone can work it out for themselfs and see what im on about.
"Just to add... if dealers are offering BIG discounts on certain vehicles then there is probably a very good reason for that"
Yes its called there not restricting supply :wink:.
VW really ramped this practise up when they noticed the tricks BMW were playing with the BINI in its first few years. What BMW did was restrict supply heavily in certain countries and also tried to keep as many used cars in the dealer network to keep the used price inflated. This created demand and low/no discounts. VW copied this practise with the mk5 GTI.
Its a practice often used in retail, make someone want something, tell them they cannot have it. Amazed how much they will then pay and want it. :wink:
Notice how few Mk6 GTIs you actual see on the road. :wink:
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Well then everyone can thank VW I guess as the MK5 has held its value very well... and continues to do so despite the release of the MK6.
Ultimately if you think you can have a car better (or as good) as the mk6 for less money then I would say go for it. However its still the one to have imo :smiley:
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^ but thats not what i said. It always comes down to personal choice.
What i was saying was depreciation and holding its value was NOT a reason to buy the golf as it will cost you more in pound notes in depreciation than any of its rivals. % values don't tell the story. Which you agreed with.
I keep my own personal cars for ever and a day. The wife does not but i do (she likes to keep up with the jones i think lol) The mk1 i have had for 20 years now!! . So depreciation is not a reason for me to buy my own cars. Hers it comes into consideration. She pinched my mk5 and won't give it back :undecided: So i had to replace it. :wink:. I looked at used mk5 GTIs but as shown on these types of forums how there get treated i did not want a thrashed car. I nearly bought one of the last R32 for ~30% off but i held back beacuse it was not really me and i was thinking VW would do the same with the stock of mk5 GTIs but they did not.
I picked the mk6 because it ticks the boxes i had listed. It cost me more than i would have liked (far far more than our mk5 GTI(18K)) but it ticked the boxes of things i was looking for in a car. Could i have had a better car or badge for the money yes. I could have had the equivelent Audi for example for much less ~11% off rrp than the golf cost, i could have had the S3 for little more over the GTIs due to the discount on the audis but the GTI ticked more boxes for me overall in the case of the S3 that was steering, fuel economy, less complicated drivetrain and in 5door shape better looking.
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^ but thats not what i said. It always comes down to personal choice.
What i was saying was depreciation and holding its value was NOT a reason to buy the golf as it will cost you more in pund notes in depreciation than any of its rivals. Which you agreed with.
I keep my cars for an ever and a day. The wife does not but i do. The mk1 i have had for 20 years now!! . So depreciation is not a reason for me to buy my own car. Hers it comes into consideration but she pinched my mk5 and won't give it back :grin: So i had to replace it. :wink:
I picked the mk6 because it ticks the boxes i had listed. It cost me more than i would have liked but it ticked the boxes of things i was looking for. Could i have had a better car or badge for the money yes. I could have had the equivelent audi for example for much less. I could have had 11% off a similare RRP audi to the GTI i could have had the S3 for little more about a grand if memory serves me correct due to the 11%+ discount on the audis but the golf ticked more boxes in the case of the S3 that was steering, fuel economy, less complicated drivetrain.
Like I said I agree the Golf will lose you more money because it ultimately cost your more initially. For some however they opt for a cheaper car in the belief that it will save them lots more money. I was just pointing out that when it comes selling time, and you look over the difference in what the 2 cars have lost over x years. The difference will not be that great.
In any circumstance you should only choose a car based upon what you can afford.... which is why i never buy my cars :laugh:
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I had the money to buy a car to run as my daily that would cost upto ~£50K but i had to look at alot of variable. I made a tick sheet and worked out what fitted what i needed rather than i as a red blooded male felt i really wanted :grin: and went though everything i could think of. I ruled alot out as silly and also from my own experience and family motor trade connections.
Im older and wiser than i was i like to think :grin: than i was in my teens,20s or 30s, i know now i don't need to reduce my 0-60 by a tenth to get to work on time etc etc. So i had a benchmark of overtaking power i was looking for without it been too much. I balanced it to practicality, mpg and other factors. If i had, had this budged in my 20s to 30s i would have probably done what most people that age would do and go get something like a GT-R (via connections at nissan) or an RS4 to keep the practicality etc but im wiser now. In real life i don't need that sort of power, expense or in the case of the audi size of car. For practicality, visability, interior feel, ok performance, ok mpg, feel good factor the GTI got the nod over its rivals for me. Infact i found it easier to decide this time around than i did for the mk5 as i nearly got another leon cupra R mk1 back then over the mk5 because i loved our previous one and could get a good deal on one as the mk2 was due out.
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I had the money to buy a car to run as my daily that would cost upto ~£50K but i had to look at alot of variable. I made a tick sheet and worked out what fitted what i needed rather than i as a red blooded male felt i really wanted :grin: and went though everything i could think of. I ruled alot out as silly and also from my own experience and family motor trade connections.
Im older and wiser than i was i like to think :grin: in my teens,20s or 30s, i know i don't need to reduce my 0-60 by a tenth to get to work on time etc etc. So i had a benchmark of overtaking power i was looking for without it been too much. I balanced it to practicality, mpg and other factors. If i had, had this budged in my 20s to 30s i would have probably done what most people that age would do and go get something like a GT-R (via connections at nissan) or an RS4 to keep the practicality etc but im wiser now. In real life i don't need that sort of power, expense or in the case of the audi size of car. For practicality, visability, interior feel, ok performance, ok mpg, feel good factor the GTI got the nod over its rivals for me. Infact i found it easier to decide this time around than i did for the mk5 as i nearly got another leon cupra R mk1 back then over the mk5 because i loved our previous one and could get a good deal on one as the mk2 was due out.
probably a good way to do things tbh. most figures are only pub talk anyway... a good driver will be the real difference. Its all down to personal opinion in the end i guess. :smiley:
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Well then everyone can thank VW I guess as the MK5 has held its value very well... and continues to do so despite the release of the MK6.
the fantastic reviews in the motoring press have no doubt had a big effect on keeping residuals high
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re: 135i - this is interesting reading:
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongtermtests/239494/bmw_135i.html
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re: 135i - this is interesting reading:
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongtermtests/239494/bmw_135i.html
You want one now dont ye! Well its monday,got an Mot on the Mk3 gti today. If its not too steep my deposits going down on the bimmer. Nothing else for it. Cheers for the link mate