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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: countrytrucker on 13 October 2009, 12:55

Title: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: countrytrucker on 13 October 2009, 12:55

I have just spoken to my dealer (VW, not drug) and I am told the UK GTIs and GTDs will not be getting LED rear lights as standard anytime soon apparently.

I have ordered a GTD and it went from 12 week delivery to 23 week so the plan was to get the LEDs thrown in as part of the deal.

Are the LED rear lights off the R going to fit a GTI/GTD?

Some good news though. All GTDs built from week 46 on will be getting the GTI diff as standard!
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: VWKev on 13 October 2009, 12:58
Makes the GTD sound more attractive all the time. It's still a frikkin desel though  :sick:
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: matchboy on 13 October 2009, 12:58
It's still a frikkin desel though  :sick:

+1
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: countrytrucker on 13 October 2009, 12:59

I have to stick to diesel with the amount of miles I do plus it is easier on tax as a company car.

There is nothing wrong with diesel!
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: FamilyDub on 13 October 2009, 13:38
There is nothing wrong with diesel!

Diesel is preceived to be - and always will be - for tight ar$es, not hot hatches :tongue:

Useable performacnce in the right gear, at the right revs, but f00k all else after that lovely slug of torque has gone.
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: Rhyso on 13 October 2009, 13:46
Useable performacnce in the right gear, at the right revs, but f00k all else after that lovely slug of torque has gone.

thats what remaps are for :afro:
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: FroGTI on 13 October 2009, 13:54
thats what remaps are for :afro:

I used to have a remapped BMW 330d which pushed out 300hp and 600Nm of torque. Very meaty, but it's still not the same as a petrol. Pity about the LED lights, must try & get a pair over here.
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: FamilyDub on 13 October 2009, 14:05
Useable performacnce in the right gear, at the right revs, but f00k all else after that lovely slug of torque has gone.

thats what remaps are for :afro:

I had a remapped Grande Punto 1.9 MJ with about 170bhp. The power band was good, but not wide enough.

My favourite incident was an overly aggressive Civic Type R driver gesticulating for me to get out the way - assuming i'm in an athsmatic 1.2 - one stab of the throttle later and he was nowhere to be seen.

Refused to make eye-contact when he overtook me about five miles down the motorway.  :laugh:
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: VWKev on 13 October 2009, 14:07
Soon as diesels stop sounding like black hackney cabs then I'll give them more serious thought. Till then they, and as Clackson says as well, they should all be Banned !
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: FamilyDub on 13 October 2009, 14:08
Soon as diesels stop sounding like black hackney cabs then I'll give them more serious thought.

Forgot about that!  :laugh:
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: Rhyso on 13 October 2009, 14:13
Useable performacnce in the right gear, at the right revs, but f00k all else after that lovely slug of torque has gone.

thats what remaps are for :afro:

I had a remapped Grande Punto 1.9 MJ with about 170bhp. The power band was good, but not wide enough.

My favourite incident was an overly aggressive Civic Type R driver gesticulating for me to get out the way - assuming i'm in an athsmatic 1.2 - one stab of the throttle later and he was nowhere to be seen.

Refused to make eye-contact when he overtook me about five miles down the motorway.  :laugh:


i get that too - it is rather comical  :laugh: :laugh:


Soon as diesels stop sounding like black hackney cabs then I'll give them more serious thought.

Forgot about that!  :laugh:

does the new GTI engine not sound like a diesel on idle then? Have they cured that particular trait?

Anyway thats good news if the GTD does get that tricky diff fitted as standard - something to look for in a few years time when the price of them is more sensible!
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: Jay on 13 October 2009, 14:15
It's still a frikkin desel though  :sick:

+1

Drop for drop diesel has 12% more power than petrol and can easily be made to have much more power than a petrol car.
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: FroGTI on 13 October 2009, 14:46
does the new GTI engine not sound like a diesel on idle then?

No, it doesn't (well, mine doesn't). I know what you/they mean, though: I drove my brother-in-laws Audi TT 2.0TFSI (MkV engine) recently and that did sound like a diesel on start-up.
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: VWKev on 13 October 2009, 14:55
It's still a frikkin desel though  :sick:

+1

Drop for drop diesel has 12% more power than petrol and can easily be made to have much more power than a petrol car.

Good for diesel. Does it still sound like a Hackney ? Why, yes it does.
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: matchboy on 13 October 2009, 15:01

does the new GTI engine not sound like a diesel on idle then? Have they cured that particular trait?


yep, its as quiet as a church mouse now, in fact i was surprised how quiet it ticks over - you can't hear anything!  or maybe that's cause i have the dynaudio on...    :grin:
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: FamilyDub on 13 October 2009, 16:39
does the new GTI engine not sound like a diesel on idle then? Have they cured that particular trait?

 :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: mortygt140 on 13 October 2009, 16:53
I thought the new CR diesel was alot quieter??? I know my GT TDI is like a tractor on startup but once warmed up its very quite on the move you carn't hear the rattly donkey in the engine bay :grin:

Darren
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: mac7 on 13 October 2009, 17:31
Drop for drop diesel has 12% more power than petrol and can easily be made to have much more power than a petrol car.

You mean 12-15% higher energy density, not power. And yes, a diesel engine is much more efficient, lasts twice as long, is simpler, blah, blah. Still inferior to a petrol engine for passenger cars though in terms of performance, weight, sound, cleanliness. And for a performance car being driven enthusiastically and enjoyed for its feedback, it's just too big a compromise. I enjoy driving cars with petrol engines; I tolerate driving cars with diesel engines.

There are some dramatic, classily styled cars out there from the likes of Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar etc which look great hunkered down on their big wheels with their curves and edges gleaming in metallic and pearl. And then the rep inside turns the key and a diesel clatters into life.
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: R32UK on 13 October 2009, 17:54
i find the mk6 gti still sounds like a diesel on start up. bit better when your up and away... thats why I try not to hang around once I have started up :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: Snoopy on 13 October 2009, 18:06
I thought i had posted this info on this forum.. :huh:

From BW45 onwards spec and engine info


The speedo needles will get a black line round its edge this will slowly be introduced from week 45,

RNS510 satnav will have integrated voice control.

1.4 122, 1.4 160, 2.0 140, 2.0 170 Will get visual gear change recomendation for manual boxes in multifuction computer.

SE Bluemotion Tec models removal of sport suspension

SE 1.6 TDI DSG Blue motion tec now available

GTD- XDS becomes standard.

S, SE and GT rear reflectors to become  cherry red.

New engines

S 1.2 TSI 105

Bluemotion 1.6 TDI 105

SE 1.6 TDI 105 bluemotion tecnology
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: R32UK on 13 October 2009, 18:28
I thought i had posted this info on this forum.. :huh:

From BW45 onwards spec and engine info


The speedo needles will get a black line round its edge this will slowly be introduced from week 45,

RNS510 satnav will have integrated voice control. - I want

1.4 122, 1.4 160, 2.0 140, 2.0 170 Will get visual gear change recomendation for manual boxes in multifuction computer. - annoying more than anything

SE Bluemotion Tec models removal of sport suspension - wondering why they ever had it in the first place

SE 1.6 TDI DSG Blue motion tec now available - amabovered  :grin:

GTD- XDS becomes standard. - only a software upgrade i imagine and only done now to not kick up a stink :lipsrsealed:

S, SE and GT rear reflectors to become  cherry red.

New engines

S 1.2 TSI 105

Bluemotion 1.6 TDI 105

SE 1.6 TDI 105 bluemotion tecnology


Very helpful though Snoopy :smiley:
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: FroGTI on 13 October 2009, 18:36
S, SE and GT rear reflectors to become  cherry red.

Oh no, the plebs are getting the cherry lights! I will definitely have to get those LED rear light clusters now.
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: mac7 on 13 October 2009, 18:39
S, SE and GT rear reflectors to become  cherry red.

Oh no, the plebs are getting the cherry lights! I will definitely have to get those LED rear light clusters now.

Perhaps we should re-name them 'moderator lights'?  :grin:
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: p3asa on 13 October 2009, 18:54
S, SE and GT rear reflectors to become  cherry red.

Oh no, the plebs are getting the cherry lights! I will definitely have to get those LED rear light clusters now.

Its not the lights Mr Moderator, its the reflectors!!
The GT has always had the Cherry lights.
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: FroGTI on 13 October 2009, 19:08
Perhaps we should re-name them 'moderator lights'?  :grin:

Its not the lights Mr Moderator, its the reflectors!!

Stop this, or I shall resign :cry:
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: keelaw on 13 October 2009, 20:11

Hey Msr Mod - I thought this was a GTI forum?!   :evil:

*check url*

yup defo golf gti....

Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: countrytrucker on 14 October 2009, 09:39

Hey Msr Mod - I thought this was a GTI forum?!   :evil:

*check url*

yup defo golf gti....



Is this another "Get your GTD chat out of here, it's GTIs only" comment? Haha!
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: AlanD on 14 October 2009, 09:52
Soon as diesels stop sounding like black hackney cabs then I'll give them more serious thought.

The MK5 at idle doesnt sound far off from a diesel, Im yet to hear a MK6 idling, does it sound any better? It is still essentially the same engine.
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: Rhyso on 14 October 2009, 09:57
Soon as diesels stop sounding like black hackney cabs then I'll give them more serious thought.

The MK5 at idle doesnt sound far off from a diesel, Im yet to hear a MK6 idling, does it sound any better? It is still essentially the same engine.


does the new GTI engine not sound like a diesel on idle then? Have they cured that particular trait?


yep, its as quiet as a church mouse now, in fact i was surprised how quiet it ticks over - you can't hear anything!  or maybe that's cause i have the dynaudio on...    :grin:

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: AlanD on 14 October 2009, 10:03
Muppet :(
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: Rhyso on 14 October 2009, 10:05
Muppet :(

 :kiss:
Title: Re: No LEDs for GTDs but GTI diff as standard!
Post by: AlanD on 14 October 2009, 10:08
A few weeks ago now when we stopped at my sisters new BFs house to pick up some stuff he came out to take a look at the Golf as he is into cars, he stopped and looked at me in a funny way and asked if it was a diesel and was I trying to pull a fast one, was so embarrassing lol.

Gave him some Milltek which soon shut him up, but the diesel "ticky" of the FSI engine is a tad annoying tbh.