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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: patty on 06 October 2009, 15:37
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hi,
my clutch pedal seems to only come back half way when the car has been parked for a while.
i pump it a couple of times,and it works again fine....could it just need bleeding?????
or is it someting more serious???
cheers
in advance
pat.
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Is a 16v, if not then it is cable.
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bleed it and find out!? :rolleyes:
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bleed it and find out!? :rolleyes:
If it is hydraulic, if not it could be a cable problem.
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sorry guys its a 16v
pat
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Sounds like a slave or master cylinder problem, bleed the system through and see if it helps.
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now guys please be gentle with me,
has any one got any pics of where i bleed the system???? it's my first job in the morning.
as it caught me out a few times today,and i would like to get it sorrted asap.
got in the car first thing this morning and the pedal had already comprressed half way down.(does sound like a bleed is needed)
cheers in advance
pat.
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Sounds like your slave cylinder has failed.
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Sounds like your slave cylinder has failed.
is there anyway of telling????? by looking at it??
are they expensive to replace???
cheers
pat.
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Find the slave cylinder on top of the gearbox. Cylindrical object with a solid small diameter pipe going into it. There should be a bleed nipple at the end of the cylinder.
Bleed it as you would brakes and see if it makes a differance. Also check the system for leaks.
If its not this and to be honest it sounds more than a bleeding problem, you will probably find a seal has gone in either the slave or master cylinder, or you may have a leak in the system.
Paul
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Forgot to mention:
Check the blue hose that goes from the brake fluid reservoir downwards and connects into the outside of the master cylinder. Then follow the other line that comes out of the master cylinder to the slave cylinder for leaks.
Also check inside the car by the clutch pedal where the rod goes into the master cylinder for leaks (check under the carpet).
Check your brake fluid level is ok.
Paul
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cheers paul,
i will check all of that in a mo, as i have this week off work, i wont to get the niggly things on the car done.(if i can????)
cheers
pat
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update:
i bleed the car a couple of days ago and thought it was all ok,until today.
clutch pedal only comes back half way sometimes once you have pressed it.
so it looks like a new slave cylinder then?????
would you guys recommend getting one of these before a clutch master cylinder????(im still new to cars as a whole so forgive my not knowing anything!!!)
cheers again
pat.
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Have you checked the return spring on the pedal.
If the pedal has been going down on its own overnight I would suspect the master cylinder first.
For popular makes of master and clutch cylinders you can get repair kits consisting of the seals. As long as the cylinder is ok these can be a cheap way of repairing master and slave cylinders.
Paul
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Have you checked the return spring on the pedal.
If the pedal has been going down on its own overnight I would suspect the master cylinder first.
For popular makes of master and clutch cylinders you can get repair kits consisting of the seals. As long as the cylinder is ok these can be a cheap way of repairing master and slave cylinders.
Paul
is this the same master cylinder as the brakes????? i did tell you i dont know that much...lol
as im not haveing any issues with the brakes.
i will check this spring,is it easy to access????
cheers again
pat.
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i have a spare slave clyinder in my garage for a 16v if you need one (gear box end)
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i have a spare slave clyinder in my garage for a 16v if you need one (gear box end)
cheers bud..i will keep that in mind(how much would you want for it??)
to be honest i dont know what i need...i just want it fixed lol..
a few people said it was the slave cylinder...then the master..now a spring to check........it's all fun and games i suppose lol
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Well i have it for spares, so if you decide you need it pm me, not trying to flog you it if it aint your problem!
Just saying i have one should you need it.
Are you loosing fluid then?
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Well i have it for spares, so if you decide you need it pm me, not trying to flog you it if it aint your problem!
Just saying i have one should you need it.
Are you loosing fluid then?
thanks a lot mate.
as for fluid loss....not that i can see.and the res still seems to be full...its a strange one.
99% of the time the pedal works fine,and the clutch feels good,but every now and then i dip the clutch to change gear and the pedal only returns half way,and i have to put my foot under the pedal to pull it back up....or i could park it over night,or even for 5 mins sometimes and the pedal has compressed half way down.
lots of head scratching :angry: pat
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The spring you should be able to see from inside the car. Just a long shot that it may be broken, it is the spring that makes the pedal return. Free to have a look.
The master cylinder is seperate to the brake master cylinder, two seperate items but both share the brake fluid reservoir.
In fairness it could be either the master or slave cylinder, not sure how you would check to see which one it is unless you can see leaking fluid. Leaking fluid may be internal past the seals. Have you disconnected the slave cylinder from the gearbox to see if there are any leaks into the gearbox.
Paul
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paul ,
i will check the spring on sat, its worth a shot!!! (although i doubt it will be,nothings ever that easy for me..lol plus 99% it feels really good)
i cant see bugger all outside at the mo,and im out all day 2morrow.
i have not disconnected the slave cylinder yet,if i did,what should i /should not see?????
cheers for all your help so far
pat.
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No spring would be too easy.
Undo the two bolts holding the slave cylinder onto the gearbox casing. Withdraw the slave cylinder and there will be a push rod coming out of the end of the cylinder. If it is leaking you will see brake fluid coming out of the end. There may be a rubber dust cover or not cant remember you may need to look under this to look folr leaking fluid.
Paul