GolfGTIforum.co.uk
Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: MowatGTI on 01 October 2009, 15:57
-
As title, got one working, one not.
Will it pass?
Ta.
-
dont need any fogs for mot, just take the working bulb out
-
I'd take fogs off for MOT, cos if you take the bulb out it is still a light, and if any lights are fitted they MUST work.
-
I'd take fogs off for MOT, cos if you take the bulb out it is still a light, and if any lights are fitted they MUST work.
+1 better to remove them.
-
Ok.
Cheers
I'm going to leave the working one in, and remove the broken unit.
That'll be ok yeah?
-
Ok.
Cheers
I'm going to leave the working one in, and remove the broken unit.
That'll be ok yeah?
Not sure if you need the pair or not. Just remove both to be safe.
-
Yeah just remove it for MOT and then put it back in for after the MOT. Makes a lot more sense.
-
You dont need front foglights, thats why a lot of cheaper versions of car models dont have them.
So providing it isnt smashed and sharp, or bright and blinding, it doesnt matter wether 0 1 or 2 work.
Mine havnt ever been turned on for an mot tbh.
-
You dont need front foglights, thats why a lot of cheaper versions of car models dont have them.
So providing it isnt smashed and sharp, or bright and blinding, it doesnt matter wether 0 1 or 2 work.
Mine havnt ever been turned on for an mot tbh.
If you have a light. It must work.
-
Front fogs not checked, you just need one working rear (on the correct side)
Paul
-
Front fogs not checked, you just need one working rear (on the correct side)
Paul
Thank you.
-
And check your interior light, he might fail you for that.
And your boot light and glove box light.
-
Will do.
I'll refit the light and say to the Mot guy when I drop it off.
I'll check interior lights too.
Cheers
-
You dont need front foglights, thats why a lot of cheaper versions of car models dont have them.
So providing it isnt smashed and sharp, or bright and blinding, it doesnt matter wether 0 1 or 2 work.
Mine havnt ever been turned on for an mot tbh.
If you have a light. It must work.
I have never been asked to turn on front fog lights on any car. You only need one on the rear for MOT.
-
And check your interior light, he might fail you for that.
And your boot light and glove box light.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
-
List below from the mot test regulations - no mention of front fog lights
Paul
Test Description
The headlamps are checked for alignment with a Beam Setter. After first aligning the equipment with the vehicle, the left and right headlamp beams are checked to ensure they are correctly set so as not to dazzle other road users.
All required lights are checked for:
- operation
- condition
- security
Side lights and headlamps
- are the correct type and colour
- dip and aim.
Stop lights, indicators and hazard lights*
- are the correct type and colour
- do not interfere with each other in operation
- driver's tell-tale works with respect to indicators, or there is an audible warning system.
Rear Fog lamps**
- must be fitted to the centre or offside of the vehicle
- tell-tale must work
- must not be affected by other lamps and not be obscured
- must be red.
Number plate lamps
- All lamps fitted must be working.
Rear reflectors
- There must be two red reflectors fitted reasonably symmetrically, securely attached and not obscured.
* Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1986, but if fitted, must be Tested.
** Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1980
-
Even though the front fogs are not a requirement for the MOT if you have fog lights (fitted) or a switch that operates them then they both must work.
Lights and switches fitted must serve the purpose they are on the vehicle for.
-
Even though the front fogs are not a requirement for the MOT if you have fog lights (fitted) or a switch that operates them then they both must work.
Lights and switches fitted must serve the purpose they are on the vehicle for.
THANK YOU!
I've been trying to say this all along but none of you listen! IF you have fog lights it must be a PAIR and they must BOTH work!
-
Even though the front fogs are not a requirement for the MOT if you have fog lights (fitted) or a switch that operates them then they both must work.
Lights and switches fitted must serve the purpose they are on the vehicle for.
THANK YOU!
I've been trying to say this all along but none of you listen! IF you have fog lights it must be a PAIR and they must BOTH work!
I know, that is why I said to remove them.
-
You then would still have a switch that is supposed to operate a pair of front fog lights that doesn't operate anything if you remove them !!
-
You then would still have a switch that is supposed to operate a pair of front fog lights that doesn't operate anything if you remove them !!
Fair point.
-
just remove the bulb...job done
(and could save you getting mot issues!! I had one tester who said because I had spacers fitted the car would fail as the trye could contact the body! and that was while running at 80mm lower...only a boot full of fatties could of caused contact!! but he was determined not to give me the slip!)
-
just remove the bulb...job done
(and could save you getting mot issues!! I had one tester who said because I had spacers fitted the car would fail as the trye could contact the body! and that was while running at 80mm lower...only a boot full of fatties could of caused contact!! but he was determined not to give me the slip!)
:grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh:
-
Might sound a bit daft but instead of removing the working bulb have you tried a new bulb in the other fog light to just get them both working?? Cheers Deano
-
Dropped it off this morning.
Mechanic said they don't need to be working.
I took the unit out yesterday. Almost broke the thing when trying to twist the unit to get the bulb out. Was corroded.
Bulb looked ok, not filament damage. Think its possibly a bad contact or something.
To be honest tho, the light is the least of my worries.
I KNOW it's going to fail.
Going to wait and see what the damage is going to be before deciding what to do.
SHould find out this morning......
:undecided: :undecided: :undecided: :undecided: :undecided:
-
Dropped it off this morning.
Mechanic said they don't need to be working.
Told you - they are not a test requirement whether they are fitted or not. There is no legislation saying cars must have front fog lights, there is legislation for a rear fog light after 1986. You cant penalise one car for having a blown front foglight which is just an accessory / special option and pass another car because it hasn't got any fitted.
Good luck with the rest of your MOT.
Paul
-
then where did I hear that if it has a light, it MUST work.
-
Dunno, but the fog's are now the least of my worries.......
The girl from the garage's office called me asking to pick the car up. She said it had passed! Just headlight alignment and that was it!
Queue 10 mins of dancing around laughing that my noble steed lived to fight another year. But no.
I cycled up to the garage for them to tell me it had failed. I think there was another golf in today that must have passed.
Anyway, time to see if its worth fixing up. I think it is.
I'm about to post another thread about fixing it up after I search the forum.
On the advisory sheet it said nothing about the fog being out.
-
lol it definately wasnt my golf. my golf failed aswell lol
-
Dropped it off this morning.
Mechanic said they don't need to be working.
Told you - they are not a test requirement whether they are fitted or not. There is no legislation saying cars must have front fog lights, there is legislation for a rear fog light after 1986. You cant penalise one car for having a blown front foglight which is just an accessory / special option and pass another car because it hasn't got any fitted.
Good luck with the rest of your MOT.
Paul
This is cleared up now, the above is 100 per cent.
-
I didnt know that like. thought the same as the others. but good to know.
-
I think your tester is interpreting the MOT test requirements wrong....
YES we know having front fogs are NOT a requirement to pass an MOT as some cars aren't fitted with fronts only 1 rear which is a requirment of the MOT..
BUT
If you have a pair of front fogs and/or a switch that is supposed to operate 2 front fog lights then they have to work.
Even removing the bulbs alot of testers would probably pass the car but if the tester was to apply the law correctly the car should fail as theres a light switch which isn't doing what it is supposed to.
-
An MOT tester would not even check your front fogs as they are not "obligatory", switch or no switch. As with lights, only "obligatory switches are tested. Otherwise my car would fail on the fag lighter. :grin:
-
when will people learn that if a light is fitted, it HAS to work. The switch has nothing to do with it, as my mk2 had rear fogs but not front, yet the switch could still be turned to the fronts position!
-
when will people learn that lights not required are not tested?
-
An MOT tester would not even check your front fogs as they are not "obligatory", switch or no switch. As with lights, only "obligatory switches are tested. Otherwise my car would fail on the fag lighter. :grin:
To turn on the rear fog you have to pull the switch right out past the fronts as the rear will only come on when the fronts are on. Thats how he knows the fronts are not working. And the fag lighter doesn't power any exterior lights it lights a fag !!
-
when will people learn that lights not required are not tested?
IT MIGHT NOT BE REQUIRED BUT IF IT IS FITTED THEN IT IS TESTED!
-
RUBBISH. Where do you get this info from? If this is so then my underneath bling lights would fail if they didnt work. :evil:
-
What items are examined in the MOT test?
Lighting Equipment, Stop Lamps, Reflectors, and Direction Indicators
Front and rear position lamps, rear registration plate lamps, rear fog lamps
Headlamps
Stoplamps
Rear reflectors
Direction indicators and hazard warning devices
Headlamp aim
-
omg omg omg, I shall blow!
I know that front fogs are NOT needed for the MOT, but if they ARE fitted, then they must work!
-
How do you know?
-
This is now LOCKED