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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: bruin3182 on 27 September 2009, 10:59
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Picked up my new spanking White GTI yesterday!! RCD 510 with Dynaudio. zenons and monza shadows.
Now... VW fitted my fiscon basic plus system which works great with te RCD 510.... BUT - the Steering wheel controls do nothing at all an the MFD display does not show anything to do with the fiscon kit. As I understand it shouldn't both the Rcd and the MFD work simultaneously!??
And the shouldn't the call button on te steering wheel work??
Is it faulty, have VW fitted it incorrectly??
Help?
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I had the coding looked at as my RNS510 was retro fitted. We (for some reason) couldnt get into one of the control modules to get all the steering buttons to work.
The sat nav does come up on the mfd, as does track names etc. We tried to change the settings to tell the CPU that the VW phone was fitted but it wasnt having any of it. tbh i prefer to just use the touch screen to answer calls, but can understand your concern.
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As I see it the whooole Idea of a bluetooth phone fit is to help prevent your eyes coming off the road - now, if i've got to look over to my left to find the answer button on the touch screen when recieving a call doesn't that defeat the object??
I bought this system because it specifically states that it will work with the steering wheel controls and the MFD.... as it doesn't I'm wondering if i've just wasted the best part of £400 and I should have stuck with my iphone headphones!!
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£400??
didnt you use the forum discount code :huh:
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Only just joined the forum...!! Oh well!!
Any way... Do I need to go back to VW to sort this out or fiscon????
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Have they actually activated the telephone on VAG.COM?
Email fiscon, they appear to be customer focused and will reply to you. But i suspect its not been fitted completely. Maybe vw p*issed off you never fitted their system.
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Do you have the 'basic' or 'basic plus'? If it's Basic plus you should be able to get everything on both displays and working from the buttons on the right side of the wheel.
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i have the plus kit and all the buttons work ok on the steering wheel and so does the MFD. The only thing i cant do very well is the texting, it works sometimes but not others. ie it doesnt alwasy shown the new text message on the MFD and then the next day it does. Doesnt seem to show missed calls ever though if your out of the car and the phone goes.
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Sounds to me like the fiscon isn't all it's cracked up to be. Then again hands free should be banned as well IMO
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Sounds to me like the fiscon isn't all it's cracked up to be. Then again hands free should be banned as well IMO
Well everyone else is happy with theirs, for me it's well worth it.
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Then again hands free should be banned as well IMO
i agree 100%. no phone call is that important that you have to take it while driving. its a complete distraction to the driver even with hands free.
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its a complete distraction to the driver even with hands free.
The next thing you'll be saying is that passenger converstations should be banned!
TBH I barely use my phone and rarely ever take a call when driving. I've been using fitted bluetooth hands free systems for over 5 years now, and don't find having a telephone conversation distracting in the slightest... Certainly no more than speaking to my mate or missus in the seat next to me!
I'll be getting a Fiscon when I get my car... and even though I use it 10 times a year, its more for the piece of mind that I CAN answer my phone legally and without any hassle than anything else. OK, its £300... but I'm sure when I change car, I can eBay it or something.
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I would say that im on the phone 50% of the time i am in the car, and I dont think it affects my driving. If you feel it affects yours then your a ghey driver (and probably dsg :tongue:). :grin:
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Then again hands free should be banned as well IMO
i agree 100%. no phone call is that important that you have to take it while driving. its a complete distraction to the driver even with hands free.
Its probably more dangerous checking out other driver/pedestrian of the opposite sex! Someone ran into the back of my car after admitting to looking at a female jogger :cry:!
I was planning to get a Fiscon for my car which will arrive sometime in october. I might play safe after reading this thread and get the VW Blueconnect!
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Sorry, but the standard of driving these days is shocking, not helped by all the knobs and buttons the car companies have conned us into 'needing' over the years. Men , sadly, cannot concentrate on more than one thing at a time and using a mobile, playing with the cruise control, heated seats, radio/ipod are all increasing your risk.
Go to Germany or Austria, or even France and you will see a much better standard of driving , especially with lane discipline on multi lane roads. <1% of drivers in the UK take additional driving tuition after passing their test - when was the last time you did ? Whats your hazard awareness like ??
My company has removed all handsfree from its 1000+ cars as mobile use got to such a high level that it was deemed irresponsible on safety.
No matter what the rules , people will always flout them :(
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I would say that im on the phone 50% of the time i am in the car, and I dont think it affects my driving. If you feel it affects yours then your a ghey driver (and probably dsg :tongue:). :grin:
dsg?! wash your mouth out! i am manual all the way! and by definition, if you are on the phone you cannot be concentrating 100% on driving as part of your brain is concentrating on talking. i'm not saying all drivers can't cope with talking and driving but i would imagine given the standard of driving these days that banning phones all together would reduce accident levels.
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Playing devils advocate here but what would the difference be to using a phone via bluetooth and listening to a talk show on the radio, something that you are interested in and debating out loud?
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Playing devils advocate here but what would the difference be to using a phone via bluetooth and listening to a talk show on the radio, something that you are interested in and debating out loud?
you are using different parts of your brain. talking to someone uses more brain power and deeper concentration.
(i've just made that up, utter tosh :laugh:)
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Utter tosh but sounds logical :laugh:
Suppose if someone / something jumped out in front of you, you could instantly cut off from the radio whereas if you were in a conversation, its not natural just to stop dead from talking and concentrate 100% on what has just happened.
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I disagree 100% that being on the phone makes you less aware.
A lot of drivers drive the same journey to work on 'autopilot' as they're doing the same monotonous thing every time. When i'm having a conversation I am more alert and concentrating more than when i'm listening to the radio which can lull you into a false sense of security.
However, getting back on topic, one person seems t be having an issue with their Fiscon, everyone else rates it highly.
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I would say that im on the phone 50% of the time i am in the car, and I dont think it affects my driving. If you feel it affects yours then your a ghey driver (and probably dsg :tongue:). :grin:
You don't think it affects your driving, but it does.
you are using different parts of your brain. talking to someone uses more brain power and deeper concentration.
(i've just made that up, utter tosh :laugh:)
It's actually correct. You use different parts of your brain for listening and talking. And having a conversation with someone in the car is different to talking to someone on the phone - you visualise images more when talking on the phone, which tends to use the part of your brain which should be processing the view out of the windscreen.
On the topic of Fiscon - why doesn't it use the telephone button on the wheel? Or does it??
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However, getting back on topic, one person seems t be having an issue with their Fiscon, everyone else rates it highly.
Yeah and it sounds like it wasn't installed correctly.
I know I'd rather put my money on Fiscon than the limited compatibility of the VW unit.
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RIGHT!!!
After some debacle at VW in Birmingham yesterday.... I am all Fiscon Bluetoothed up!!
It's all working.... I was there for two hours and fielded about 4 calls between Fiscon and The VW tech's.
The end result was the VW Tech's saying it didn't work and that I would have to go to FISCON and get them to code the car via their aftermarket VAG Com system.
The then warned me that if the coded the car wrongly - the master computer would be fooked and the whole thing would be void of warranty!!!
I left the garge not happy..... But - then I got into my car, switched on the ignition and all was working - MFD, Steering wheel controls etc....!
Now very happy. - and all in all excellent customer service from Sarah Heath (sales) - and the two VW techs!
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The end result was the VW Tech's saying it didn't work and that I would have to go to FISCON and get them to code the car via their aftermarket VAG Com system.
Now very happy. - and all in all excellent customer service from Sarah Heath (sales) - and the two VW techs!
So, the VW technicians said they couldn't fix it, but they did without realising they had?? :huh:
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Correct!
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What is important is that the Fiscon Bluetooth is NOW working... :grin: Only wish this happens more frequently. Then perhaps we dont need magic anymore...
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I went for factory bluetooth, had problem at 1st wouldnt connect, stealers said my phone was not compatable ?
set my phone to remote sim mode(N86) and voila, kit works a treat and even get a black gloss shark fin ariel (not got sat nav)
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I went for factory bluetooth, had problem at 1st wouldnt connect, stealers said my phone was not compatable ?
set my phone to remote sim mode(N86) and voila, kit works a treat and even get a black gloss shark fin ariel (not got sat nav)
I'd actually prefer mine without the aerial, so as Fiscon can be made to work with a little magic and crossed fingers, I think I'll choose that.
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Sorry, but the standard of driving these days is shocking, not helped by all the knobs and buttons the car companies have conned us into 'needing' over the years. Men , sadly, cannot concentrate on more than one thing at a time and using a mobile, playing with the cruise control, heated seats, radio/ipod are all increasing your risk.
Go to Germany or Austria, or even France and you will see a much better standard of driving , especially with lane discipline on multi lane roads. <1% of drivers in the UK take additional driving tuition after passing their test - when was the last time you did ? Whats your hazard awareness like ??
My company has removed all handsfree from its 1000+ cars as mobile use got to such a high level that it was deemed irresponsible on safety.
No matter what the rules , people will always flout them :(
As someone whe travels and drives to France on a fairly regular basis on business
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :shocked:
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As someone whe travels and drives to France on a fairly regular basis on business
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :shocked:
I know what you mean! I was in Paris a couple of weeks ago and was astounded at how terrible their driving was! :shocked:
There were parts where the roads had no lanes and all merged into each other. My taxi driver was tooting and screaming at the car next to him as they both tried to squeeze into the same gap. They must REALLY know how wide their cars are though, as they squeeze through the smallest of spaces.
As a fairly nervous passenger after having my car written off - being a passenger in Paris was HELL!
Anyway - back on topic! Glad the Fiscon is working now. I'm going to retrofit one of these eventually. With the group buy, its cheaper than the standard VW one and has a lot of extra features. The only downer is that the blurb on the wbsite says some features don't work with a white MFD?
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I went for factory bluetooth, had problem at 1st wouldnt connect, stealers said my phone was not compatable ?
set my phone to remote sim mode(N86) and voila, kit works a treat and even get a black gloss shark fin ariel (not got sat nav)
I'd actually prefer mine without the aerial, so as Fiscon can be made to work with a little magic and crossed fingers, I think I'll choose that.
I think the ariel looks well on the Tornado red, being in black goes with the red/black theme of the car,